Gamble92 Posted 28 January Posted 28 January 31 minutes ago, OntarioFox said: It follows exactly the pattern we had from outsiders in the run up to, and aftermath of, sacking Rodgers. For those of us who were there watching that shite week in, week out, we knew how bad it was and that he was the problem. For lazy pundits it was just little old "Entitled Leicester" hounding out the manager who won them the FA Cup. See also - Ranieri's second season. We knew what we were seeing, and we were right to demand change. The difference this time is that the squad depth just isn't there for Ruud to arrest the nosedive without some real reinforcements. BDCR and Ayew have some role to play, but I don't think any of us are kidding ourselves that the raft of signings made for Cooper were shit and haven't strengthened us whatsoever. Rudkin needs to pull his finger out over the next week, or we're still going to be right up against it without a miracle upturn in not just desire but actual ability. Just when I thought you couldn't go any lower after your post loving Forest, you go and post something like this 2
The boy Linacre Posted 5 February Posted 5 February I know its bit late in the day BUT obviously we had the disaster of the January window coz of the cataclysm of the July & Aug cluster***k But can anybody actually tell me WHY Cooper was sacked?? What did he do that took Top in the direction of wasting even more pay off money? I'm genuinely interested to know........
RoboFox Posted 5 February Posted 5 February 1 minute ago, The boy Linacre said: I know its bit late in the day BUT obviously we had the disaster of the January window coz of the cataclysm of the July & Aug cluster***k But can anybody actually tell me WHY Cooper was sacked?? What did he do that took Top in the direction of wasting even more pay off money? I'm genuinely interested to know........ "Enzo I miss U" 3
Dmitry Posted 5 February Posted 5 February (edited) 6 minutes ago, The boy Linacre said: I know its bit late in the day BUT obviously we had the disaster of the January window coz of the cataclysm of the July & Aug cluster***k But can anybody actually tell me WHY Cooper was sacked?? What did he do that took Top in the direction of wasting even more pay off money? I'm genuinely interested to know........ A couple of guesses...shifting the blame from the powers that be onto the manager; perhaps the grossly-overpaid players complaining to the Chairman directly about the manager. So they made Cooper take the severance package and went fishing for another scapegoat. Remember Maresca last January? He was candid about being lied to by Rudkin and Top (without naming names) and let it be known that he wasn't afraid of walking out. Edited 5 February by Dmitry 2
ClaphamFox Posted 5 February Posted 5 February 6 minutes ago, The boy Linacre said: I know its bit late in the day BUT obviously we had the disaster of the January window coz of the cataclysm of the July & Aug cluster***k But can anybody actually tell me WHY Cooper was sacked?? What did he do that took Top in the direction of wasting even more pay off money? I'm genuinely interested to know........ It has been suggested that Top realised that Cooper was the wrong man for the job very soon after he was appointed. It would have been a very bold move to sack a newly-appointed coach before a ball was kicked, but our poor start to the season gave Top the excuse he was looking for to pull the trigger... 2
FoxOnWheels Posted 5 February Posted 5 February 9 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: It has been suggested that Top realised that Cooper was the wrong man for the job very soon after he was appointed. It would have been a very bold move to sack a newly-appointed coach before a ball was kicked, but our poor start to the season gave Top the excuse he was looking for to pull the trigger... It’s mad though cause when you give a manager such a shit squad comparative to the level then what do you expect, I don’t think there’s any manager that would keep these lot up, they are spineless, lack quality and accountability
fazzyfox Posted 5 February Posted 5 February I think the Chelsea game was the last straw, set up to just keep the score down and not even have a go, it showed in the final minutes when subs came on and Mavididi ran at them that they weren't unbeatable at the back but even neutrals and broadcasters were shocked at how negative we had been. That day the players body language and heads went too, there was a 10-15 minute spell of wild challenges then verbals when substituted, gestures etc, arguing amongst themselves 3
Muzzy_no7 Posted 5 February Posted 5 February 38 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: It has been suggested that Top realised that Cooper was the wrong man for the job very soon after he was appointed. It would have been a very bold move to sack a newly-appointed coach before a ball was kicked, but our poor start to the season gave Top the excuse he was looking for to pull the trigger... Well why wasn’t he sacked prior to either the October or November international breaks then. Another dogshit decision
Iwebema Posted 5 February Posted 5 February 53 minutes ago, The boy Linacre said: I know its bit late in the day BUT obviously we had the disaster of the January window coz of the cataclysm of the July & Aug cluster***k But can anybody actually tell me WHY Cooper was sacked?? What did he do that took Top in the direction of wasting even more pay off money? I'm genuinely interested to know........ The main reason was the players, they never took to him, actively complained about him and as we know some bigger players have a direct line to Top.... 1
Popular Post Soar Fox Posted 5 February Popular Post Posted 5 February 22 minutes ago, Iwebema said: The main reason was the players, they never took to him, actively complained about him and as we know some bigger players have a direct line to Top.... Worked out well for them since 4 2
Leicesterpool Posted 5 February Posted 5 February I'd be interesting to know whose suggested it was to fire Cooper, was Top himself or Rudkin. In terms of hiring him, it sounds like a Rudkin/Whelan suggestion appointment. I can't imagine TOP was completely fully dreaming up Cooper as the perfect replacement for Enzo. We all know TOP really wanted Potter and no doubt even Rudkin and Whelan. Once Potter said "No thanks", it seemed like it was left to Rudkin and Whelan to decide. I always think you can tell what's been Rudkin suggestion similar transfers in terms of appointments, Dean Smith replacing Rodgers, Cooper replacing Enzo... I'm not sure about Ruud? if honest with it being high profiled name sounds more TOP decision.
Weller Wing Posted 5 February Posted 5 February Even if they went for Cooper due to lack of funds , possible points deduction and nobody wanted the job , why on earth did they give an out of work manager a 3 year deal? If it was 3 years?
Pita Posted 5 February Posted 5 February 7 minutes ago, Weller Wing said: Even if they went for Cooper due to lack of funds , possible points deduction and nobody wanted the job , why on earth did they give an out of work manager a 3 year deal? If it was 3 years? Because the people at Leicester handing out contracts just don’t have a clue
Weller Wing Posted 5 February Posted 5 February 4 minutes ago, Pita said: Because the people at Leicester handing out contracts just don’t have a clue And that's why we're where we are😕
MonarchFox Posted 5 February Posted 5 February 3 hours ago, fazzyfox said: I think the Chelsea game was the last straw, set up to just keep the score down and not even have a go, it showed in the final minutes when subs came on and Mavididi ran at them that they weren't unbeatable at the back but even neutrals and broadcasters were shocked at how negative we had been. That day the players body language and heads went too, there was a 10-15 minute spell of wild challenges then verbals when substituted, gestures etc, arguing amongst themselves I much prefer trying to stay in a game than RVNs let's throw it away in the first 5 mins approach. They've gone from one end of the scale to the other
st albans fox Posted 5 February Posted 5 February 1 hour ago, Weller Wing said: Even if they went for Cooper due to lack of funds , possible points deduction and nobody wanted the job , why on earth did they give an out of work manager a 3 year deal? If it was 3 years? Length of a mangers contract isn’t relevant when compared to a player. A player has to be paid out in full. A manager will usually have a capped period of notice after termination of their contract - often 12 months. 1
Weller Wing Posted 5 February Posted 5 February 51 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Length of a mangers contract isn’t relevant when compared to a player. A player has to be paid out in full. A manager will usually have a capped period of notice after termination of their contract - often 12 months. Well that's better to know. Still an awful appointment and has still cost the club a million or 2
TJB-fox Posted 5 February Posted 5 February 5 hours ago, The boy Linacre said: I know its bit late in the day BUT obviously we had the disaster of the January window coz of the cataclysm of the July & Aug cluster***k But can anybody actually tell me WHY Cooper was sacked?? What did he do that took Top in the direction of wasting even more pay off money? I'm genuinely interested to know........ One of the key lines at the time was ‘there was a clear disconnect between the players and Cooper, and the club and cooper’ Basically tells me that the players weren’t having him and that the board didn’t like him much either. 1 1
The boy Linacre Posted 5 February Posted 5 February 1 minute ago, TJB-fox said: One of the key lines at the time was ‘there was a clear disconnect between the players and Cooper, and the club and cooper’ Basically tells me that the players weren’t having him and that the board didn’t like him much either. And of course they all know best, as we let Everton batter us on Saturday after 7 losses out of 8, jokers all. Cooper wasn't the answer but they are steaming towards relegation 1
TJB-fox Posted 5 February Posted 5 February 1 minute ago, The boy Linacre said: And of course they all know best, as we let Everton batter us on Saturday after 7 losses out of 8, jokers all. Cooper wasn't the answer but they are steaming towards relegation Well yep the players and board are shit too but they’re not going to sack themselves and X amount of playing ‘talent’ are they.
HitchinFox Posted 6 February Posted 6 February 4 hours ago, st albans fox said: Length of a mangers contract isn’t relevant when compared to a player. A player has to be paid out in full. A manager will usually have a capped period of notice after termination of their contract - often 12 months. Well, look at you with your genuinely useful insight and your clear way of presenting it. Mods, have a word. 1 1
st albans fox Posted 6 February Posted 6 February 31 minutes ago, HitchinFox said: Well, look at you with your genuinely useful insight and your clear way of presenting it. Mods, have a word. Yeah - I’m sorry ……..won’t happen again ……… 1
glenny_fox Posted 6 February Posted 6 February 17 hours ago, FoxOnWheels said: It’s mad though cause when you give a manager such a shit squad comparative to the level then what do you expect, I don’t think there’s any manager that would keep these lot up, they are spineless, lack quality and accountability Well maybe if Cooper hadn't been so focused on "Prem experience", and absolutely wasted about £60m on crap (not entirely his fault, but he would have definitely been involved), then maybe we could have improved the actual first 11, and made a go of it. 1
Chrysalis Posted 6 February Posted 6 February 18 hours ago, RoboFox said: "Enzo I miss U" Its funny, but this stuff would sway our man child.
Fox92 Posted 6 February Posted 6 February 17 hours ago, Iwebema said: The main reason was the players, they never took to him, actively complained about him and as we know some bigger players have a direct line to Top.... Which is wrong. They should never be able to go over the manager. Same with when Ranieri was here. Players are a joke. 3
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