Popular Post Danizen Posted 27 February Popular Post Posted 27 February Does anyone know why Forest fans have such a huge chip on their shoulder about us sacking Cooper? They sacked him too! Also, RvN being shit doesn’t mean Cooper was any good. 9
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 27 February Posted 27 February Just now, Danizen said: Does anyone know why Forest fans have such a huge chip on their shoulder about us sacking Cooper? They sacked him too! Also, RvN being shit doesn’t mean Cooper was any good. Red scum fans are weird
Lambert09 Posted 27 February Posted 27 February It was awful but it was better than this. Sacking him was the right decision but we’ve managed to bring in someone worse. I’ll hold my hands up, I believed Ruud would be good. But he’s lost, he has favourites despite us being woeful and he has no pragmatism at all. I’m not convinced his game plan would work even with all of his players in the system it just looks naive and easy to break down. What it does highlight, is that Coopers plan to keep everyone behind the ball was a necessity because of how many clowns we have at the back 1
Chrysalis Posted 28 February Posted 28 February Thanks Cooper for getting us over the Derby points total and enough points so we dont finish rock bottom. 3
Chrysalis Posted 28 February Posted 28 February 3 hours ago, Danizen said: Does anyone know why Forest fans have such a huge chip on their shoulder about us sacking Cooper? They sacked him too! Also, RvN being shit doesn’t mean Cooper was any good. To be fair we dont like it when other clubs sack Pearson, for them he did great and they think the sacking was harsh, the thing is most neutrals think the sacking was odd. Including our ex manager MoN. Cooper wasnt necessarily a good manager for a club wanting to progress beyond survival, but he is a better choice than managers who are not prepared to play in a way for results rather than pretty football when every point matters. 1
inckley fox Posted 28 February Posted 28 February 3 hours ago, Lambert09 said: It was awful but it was better than this. Sacking him was the right decision but we’ve managed to bring in someone worse. I’ll hold my hands up, I believed Ruud would be good. But he’s lost, he has favourites despite us being woeful and he has no pragmatism at all. I’m not convinced his game plan would work even with all of his players in the system it just looks naive and easy to break down. What it does highlight, is that Coopers plan to keep everyone behind the ball was a necessity because of how many clowns we have at the back I have a feeling that most of the footballing community, if not all (us excepted), thinks we've been extremely dumb over Cooper. They'd say that any manager who'd inherited that squad, with a pending points deduction, limited funds and a fanbase (soon to be followed by a dressing room) stacked against him, had done quite well to have them in 16th. The same players who were partying on the day he was fired - and who have been responsible for our recent form, and who in many cases got us relegated last time round - had clearly abandoned the Cooper cause some time before he departed. Which makes it hard to imagine how things might have been if fans and players had given him a chance. We might try to kid ourselves that these outsiders in the media have no idea what's really going down in Leicester, but anyone with half a brain outside of our neck of the woods knows full well that we've been silly. For what it's worth, I think we probably did make the wrong appointment with Cooper, though I found it staggering to hear people suggest he was way below our level, or a hopeless incompetent with nothing to offers (especially as these were often the same people who thought the entirely unproven Ruud to be a stellar appointment). But I don't think Cooper did a great job, I don't think his transfer policy was right, I do think things would have gone downhill if he'd continued, and I think it was wise to fire him, even if much of that was down to the fact that neither fans nor players were going to give him a chance to be successful. Even so, there are so many other factors to consider. Years of poor recruitment under successive managers. The whole Maresca project, which was only ever going to end in a serious rethink once we got promoted, and which only uncovered one single player who would prove PL standard (contrast that to our promotions in 1983, 1996, 2014, when we stayed up). A large number of (inherited) overpaid players who overestimate their worth to the club, and football as a whole. Regarding transfers, Cooper never seemed to value Okoli or Skipp himself particularly, so there's a question over whose babies they were. As for Reid and Ayew... Clearly we'd spent 5m on a winger in 2023, and committed to a further 12-15m or whatever for another one, and in 2024 we couldn't afford more. So we bought experienced back-ups. We needed the class of '23 to step up - and they didn't - so the back-ups ended up being first choice. They weren't dreadful signings, regardless of my indifference to them, they just ended up playing way more than they should have due to poor form and injury. Our current plight goes way beyond Cooper, irrespective of his many errors. It goes beyond Ruud too, despite him appearing to be a lot less qualified than his predecessor for the post. 4
SK3Blue Posted 28 February Posted 28 February Dean Smith, Cooper, RVN all poor appointments by a club that lurches from one bad decision to another. This squad combined with any of those 3 wouldn’t not stay in this league. 3
CrazyKopCorner Posted 28 February Posted 28 February 32 minutes ago, SK3Blue said: Dean Smith, Cooper, RVN all poor appointments by a club that lurches from one bad decision to another. This squad combined with any of those 3 wouldn’t not stay in this league. Sadly very true. Just too many punches to the gut from absolutely manager melts.
Popular Post moore_94 Posted 21 April Author Popular Post Posted 21 April This in Tanner’s article made me laugh https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6272009/2025/04/21/leicester-relegation-cooper-van-nistelrooy/?source=twitteruk Time was ticking and while Leicester preferred Potter, they held discussions with others. Cooper had impressed ‘Khun Top’ during meetings in London, where he presented a study he had commissioned that detailed where he ranked among hundreds of coaches across the top five European leagues. 21
Claudio Fannieri Posted 21 April Posted 21 April Hi Top here is a study I have commissioned that says I am brilliant coach and manager, so job done where do I sign 😂😂😂 1
Popular Post Muzzy_no7 Posted 21 April Popular Post Posted 21 April The narrative that we were harsh on cooper and should not have sacked him and that we would have had a chance of staying up under him is just embarrassing. We were utter shite under him, too. We barely deserved 2-4pts of the 10 or so he got us. The ‘best’ performances this season, even though he’s inept and needs to go, have been under Ruud, no doubt. 15 1
Popular Post Number 6 Posted 21 April Popular Post Posted 21 April Even if you take Coopers games at face value and say we'd have continued at that rate, we'd be on 27/28 points now, finishing the season 31/32. So better, but still just a different shade of relegated. There were mitigating circumstances to the Cooper hire with a presumed points deduction incoming, the Ruud hire was an awful mistake at a time when the right appointment would have given us a fighting chance. 5
everton carr Posted 21 April Posted 21 April 19 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said: The narrative that we were harsh on cooper and should not have sacked him and that we would have had a chance of staying up under him is just embarrassing. We were utter shite under him, too. We barely deserved 2-4pts of the 10 or so he got us. The ‘best’ performances this season, even though he’s inept and needs to go, have been under Ruud, no doubt. Disagree Palace away best performance this season 1
Muzzy_no7 Posted 21 April Posted 21 April 3 minutes ago, everton carr said: Disagree Palace away best performance this season Nah we’ve played better than that. Palace should’ve beaten us in that game. 1
RedSoxUK Posted 21 April Posted 21 April 1 hour ago, moore_94 said: This in Tanner’s article made me laugh https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6272009/2025/04/21/leicester-relegation-cooper-van-nistelrooy/?source=twitteruk Time was ticking and while Leicester preferred Potter, they held discussions with others. Cooper had impressed ‘Khun Top’ during meetings in London, where he presented a study he had commissioned that detailed where he ranked among hundreds of coaches across the top five European leagues. Ahahaha '"Look, I've won the world cup."
Paninistickers Posted 21 April Posted 21 April 25 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said: have been under Ruud, no doubt What?????????? When? West Ham and Brighton we were totally outplayed and the other win was against an injury ravaged Spurs. The 'best' performance we had under the Dutchman was a fairly meek but fairly harsh 2-0 defeat to.Man City. 0-0 was maybe reflective of the game You've gotta demand better standards than that matey. 2
coolhandfox Posted 21 April Posted 21 April Cooper should have never been appointed, terrible manager at PL level with the baggage of being a recent Forest manager. 4
everton carr Posted 21 April Posted 21 April 41 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said: Nah we’ve played better than that. Palace should’ve beaten us in that game. Really they scored a very dubious goal to get back to 2-1 then Coady gave away a ridiculous penalty 5 minutes into injury time Ayew also missed a sitter from 5 yards out
Muzzy_no7 Posted 21 April Posted 21 April (edited) 52 minutes ago, Paninistickers said: What?????????? When? West Ham and Brighton we were totally outplayed and the other win was against an injury ravaged Spurs. The 'best' performance we had under the Dutchman was a fairly meek but fairly harsh 2-0 defeat to.Man City. 0-0 was maybe reflective of the game You've gotta demand better standards than that matey. I haven’t said any were acceptable ‘matey’. I stand by it. Our best ‘performances’ this season have been under Ruud. EDIT: Our worst performances have also been under Ruud😂 Edited 21 April by Muzzy_no7
Wsl Posted 21 April Posted 21 April On 27/02/2025 at 23:20, Danizen said: Does anyone know why Forest fans have such a huge chip on their shoulder about us sacking Cooper? They sacked him too! Also, RvN being shit doesn’t mean Cooper was any good. This! Boards/reports are full of Forest fans swearing blind Cooper would have kept us up. And that we deserve to go down because of how we mistreated the poor sensitive plant. They've short memories. The only difference is that they replaced Cooper with a decent manager and we didn't.
Claridge Posted 21 April Posted 21 April Sacking cooper when we did was completely crazy, appointing him the first place was crazy , but no one else wanted it
Mon.is.a.god Posted 21 April Posted 21 April The footy was awful but at least he showed fight. Thank you for Southampton away, that’s up there with the best of me LCFC away days! 1
Corky Posted 21 April Posted 21 April Cooper gets a lot of plaudits for having us outside the bottom three (by a point after 12 games) yet never gets questioned as to why he had the majority of this Notts team in 17th when they binned him. 1
Popular Post Sol thewall Bamba Posted 21 April Popular Post Posted 21 April Crazy how this generational manager is still out of a managerial job. 3 4
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