Ruud van Nistelrooy - New Manager - Official

[AKCJ]

13 minutes ago, Craig said:

I am astonished that a couple of games vs already relegated sides with nothing to play for are somehow persuading people that he is the right man for a promotion push.

 

If Ipswich could finish then today could have been a pretty heavy defeat. They missed some really, really good chances. The issues that have led to record breaking losing/non-scoring runs were all apparent again today. 

 

And as for team selections... 

 

 

Never really understand what people get annoyed about with regards to team selections.

 

We don't have the players to put out a good starting 11. Not really sure who people think is sat on the bench/in the stands that is going to make a difference.

 

The questions to ask yourself on a day like today are things like Soumare or Skipp. Both tripe.

[Raj]

14 minutes ago, Craig said:

I am astonished that a couple of games vs already relegated sides with nothing to play for are somehow persuading people that he is the right man for a promotion push.

 

If Ipswich could finish then today could have been a pretty heavy defeat. They missed some really, really good chances. The issues that have led to record breaking losing/non-scoring runs were all apparent again today. 

 

And as for team selections... 

 

 

100% this.

 

2 wins v 2 relegated teams, one who might have got the record for the lowest points ever and today, if they had a half decent striker would have won easily.

 

Can' have any excuses for the wretched losing run under his leadership.

[kingfox]

42 minutes ago, trooky said:

I think we'll still have a mixture of emotions running through the fanbase even with a  new manager that isn't Dyche or Martin until at least Rudkin has gone.

 

The gulf between the relegated teams and the championship is now huge,  if Sheffield are promoted via the playoffs then there won't be any existing championship teams receiving parachute payments. 

 

Ruud hasn't done enough but regardless of the manager we'll be too strong for the championship.

 

If our finances are that tight and we're only looking at out of work managers then I would save on the compensation and strengthen the first team unless of course we replace Rudkin.

 

We'll loose players, but as long as we keep Nelson, Thomas, Coady, James, Fatawu, Mavididi, McAteer, Skipp and Winks we'll have a good nucleus for the championship along with Monga, Alves, Evans, Golding Stolarczyk and Woyo. 

 

We don't like them but even Ayew and BDR will be good in the championship

 

Last time we were relegated we recruited very well and I think we'll still attract better players than most teams in the division. 

 

Depends who it is, a fresh up-and-coming manager would offer more positivity and excitement going into a new season over Ruud, Martin or Dyche. 
 

I think we’ll be in the mix no doubt, but I wouldn’t get too carried away, if Ruud got into a rut where we’re struggling to push for automatic promotion, then what? 
 

We have a solid enough core, but a lot will depend on the striker situation. 
 

If Ruud stays and is willing to commit to using the younger players, then he may get some more fans on his side. If he stays and Ayew and BDCR end up featuring regularly, then fans are not going to be happy at the start of next season, unless they can put the ball into the net. 

[Craig]

Just now, AKCJ said:

Never really understand what people get annoyed about with regards to team selections.

 

We don't have the players to put out a good starting 11. Not really sure who people think is sat on the bench/in the stands that is going to make a difference.

 

The questions to ask yourself on a day like today are things like Soumare or Skipp. Both tripe.

It's been the same since he came in, not just in the past few games where selection is relatively limited.

 

Today we started with Ayew as a 10. Ayew, a 10. 

 

Facundo didn't get a single minute on what was his final home game here, despite how bright he was at Forest.

 

Then there's Okoli who looked very good vs Brighton, who looked like he actually cared, yet has barely played since... when we have Coady and Faes clowning around.

 

 

[adejo92]

Dont think we were particularly good, we were just a bit less shit than them.

[Iwebema]

Will be interesting to see if the kinder sentiment hes got for beating 2 worse teams than us is still here if we get absolutely tonked by Bournemouth next week.

 

Whilst I maintain hes had a terrible pass and the issues really lay above him, he's not endeared himself to me as the manager we need to operate under this circus. His team selections in particular baffle me and I dont think I can easily forget all the unwanted records he broke..that said I would much rather keep him than appoint Martin or Dyche...I think 😅

 

Edited 18 May 2025 by Iwebema

[HankMarvin]

1 minute ago, winteriscoming said:

Managers these days lose their job if they don’t have a win in 5 or 6 games. 
This prat has lost 17 of 19 games and not scored in 9 consecutive home games. 
It shouldn’t be under consideration for him to be in charge next season. He shouldn’t have lasted this season. 

Arguably caused Vardy to end his Leicester career slightly prematurely, had we stayed up would he have been keen to move on?

 

I guess it depends how 17th finish, if it’s under 40 points it wouldn’t have been beyond the realms of possibility with 3/4 more wins during that hideous period under someone else 

[DezFox]

Interesting where our points have come this year. Haven’t we pretty much taken 75% of them off 20th, 19th and 17th?

 

[Paninistickers]

4 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

Never really understand what people get annoyed about with regards to team selections.

 

We don't have the players to put out a good starting 11. Not really sure who people think is sat on the bench/in the stands that is going to make a difference.

 

The questions to ask yourself on a day like today are things like Soumare or Skipp. Both tripe.

What, playing Bob Reid ahead of Ayew and Buonanotte. In fact playing literally anyone ahead of Buonanotte. Freezing out Stephy. Freezing out Okoli. Playing Ward over Iverson. Playing Coady who couldn't make a championship team last season. Playing Wilf and Soumare as a two when it was clear they couldn't cope. 

 

There's plenty he could've done, personnel wise, formation wise and tactically. I'd have got more points as manager than this cvnt

[Guppys Love Child]

24 minutes ago, Skidmark said:

We won 2-0 and Ayew had a decent game? You can't please some. 

We've had results against the other  relegated teams. Ipswich were poor for most of the match IMO

 

If we had played a mid table team today  I don't think he'd have had the same freedom and maybe not as good performance. 

[AKCJ]

12 minutes ago, Craig said:

It's been the same since he came in, not just in the past few games where selection is relatively limited.

 

Today we started with Ayew as a 10. Ayew, a 10. 

 

Facundo didn't get a single minute on what was his final home game here, despite how bright he was at Forest.

 

Then there's Okoli who looked very good vs Brighton, who looked like he actually cared, yet has barely played since... when we have Coady and Faes clowning around.

 

 

Facundo Buonanotte or Caleb Okoli will not be here next season. Absolutely no reason for either to play.

[AKCJ]

7 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

What, playing Bob Reid ahead of Ayew and Buonanotte. In fact playing literally anyone ahead of Buonanotte. Freezing out Stephy. Freezing out Okoli. Playing Ward over Iverson. Playing Coady who couldn't make a championship team last season. Playing Wilf and Soumare as a two when it was clear they couldn't cope. 

 

There's plenty he could've done, personnel wise, formation wise and tactically. I'd have got more points as manager than this cvnt

Mavididi is injured.

 

Okoli is going.

 

Ward or Iverson is like choosing between drowning or being burned alive.

 

There is no combination of midfielders that can cope. We've literally seen every single combination of midfielders multiple times this season.

 

 

There's nothing he can do personnel wise because the squad is ****ing horrendous. 

[shen]

1 minute ago, AKCJ said:

Mavididi is injured.

 

Okoli is going.

 

Ward or Iverson is like choosing between drowning or being burned alive.

 

There is no combination of midfielders that can cope. We've literally seen every single combination of midfielders multiple times this season.

 

 

There's nothing he can do personnel wise because the squad is ****ing horrendous. 

Except Winks, Ricardo and Ndidi were pretty good in the Championship last time around. I would like to see Braybrooke first hand, if he's not done at the club.

[DezFox]

2 hours ago, Aleksz said:

I quite like what he stands for in terms of young players and trying to install some discipline - he’s what we need in that regard. But I really haven’t seen enough tactically or in terms of game management to want to move forward with him. Wish him all the best but we need to look elsewhere.

I would disagree with this, I think he has only been talking about and playing young players once relegated but they didn’t get a shout when it actually mattered. Didn’t he play Ayew, BDR and Vardy like 5 games in a row in the middle of our crazy losing streak.

 

He should be remembered for eventually trying to play youth when every game was basically a friendly.
 

His man management of one of  the most talented young players to have in our team for some time in bounenotte has been appalling in my opinion but I guess we didn’t really know what has gone on. If it’s all true I do agree with your point re discipline and everything else.

Edited 18 May 2025 by DezFox

[jbflcfc]

45 minutes ago, Gubbins said:

RvN is one of the top flights worst ever managers, of course it's worth changing him. Are you suggesting that as long as Rudkin and Top are here we should keep him?

What I’m saying is that if we do sack him & appoint another manager with the above (mainly rudkin) in his current position, we will just continue to see the same trend.

 

I agree with you on the rvn point, but I feel as if the cycle will continue until a change at the top happens.

[Paninistickers]

2 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

Mavididi is injured.

 

Okoli is going.

 

Ward or Iverson is like choosing between drowning or being burned alive.

 

There is no combination of midfielders that can cope. We've literally seen every single combination of midfielders multiple times this season.

 

 

There's nothing he can do personnel wise because the squad is ****ing horrendous. 

What a jibberish post. 

 

Every combo of midfield,?? He played Wilf and Soumare for fck knows how many consecutive defeats..

 

Mavididi has barely played. Okoli is going as he's been treated like shit. Buonanotte treated like shit.

 

The difference between Iversensen and Ward is one is championship level and the other would be on the bench at Tamworth.

 

The Dutchman did nothing to arrest the slide. No change in tactics or formation or personal..Either because he didn't know how to or is too arrogant to admit he was wrong. 

[AKCJ]

11 minutes ago, shen said:

Except Winks, Ricardo and Ndidi were pretty good in the Championship last time around. I would like to see Braybrooke first hand, if he's not done at the club.

The important words in this post.

 

Braybrooke couldn't get a game up in Dundee or wherever he was. He's miles of Premier League level.

[AKCJ]

23 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

What a jibberish post. 

 

Every combo of midfield,?? He played Wilf and Soumare for fck knows how many consecutive defeats..

 

Mavididi has barely played. Okoli is going as he's been treated like shit. Buonanotte treated like shit.

 

The difference between Iversensen and Ward is one is championship level and the other would be on the bench at Tamworth.

 

The Dutchman did nothing to arrest the slide. No change in tactics or formation or personal..Either because he didn't know how to or is too arrogant to admit he was wrong. 

What's jibberish about it?

 

We don't have Xavi, Iniesta and De Bruyne sat on the bench. All of our midfielders are not good enough for this level. It's an undeniable fact that has been proven all season long.

 

You're the type that would clamour for Ayew and Reid when Mavididi can't beat a man and looks like he can't be arsed. You think the grass is greener with other players yet it's just not the case. The whole team is pathetic and not good enough for this level.

 

Im not going to defend his man management, tactics or his style of play because it's clearly awful but claiming his selections are bad is just a stupid argument because the whole squad is not up to it barring maybe El Khannouss and Hermansen. The fault of that does not lie with the manager.

[Corky]

In the 11 out of 12 games he has managed against the same sides as Cooper, he has the same points. Hopefully we can finally put to bed the idea Cooper was doing a fine job.

 

Still needs to go but in a strange way I'm ok with him getting these results. Just think he's a poor manager, not a bad bloke.

 

 

[Pliskin]

13 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

What's jibberish about it?

 

We don't have Xavi, Iniesta and De Bruyne sat on the bench. All of our midfielders are not good enough for this level. It's an undeniable fact that has been proven all season long.

 

You're the type that would clamour for Ayew and Reid when Mavididi can't beat a man and looks like he can't be arsed. You think the grass is greener with other players yet it's just not the case. The whole team is pathetic and not good enough for this level.

 

Im not going to defend his man management, tactics or his style of play because it's clearly awful but claiming his selections are bad is just a stupid argument because the whole squad is not up to it barring maybe El Khannouss and Hermansen. The fault of that does not lie with the manager.

Steve Cooper didn’t lose a record breaking amount of games at home without scoring a goal. Ruud statistically has been our worst ever manager. 

[Skidmark]

1 hour ago, Pliskin said:

Funny how that “identity” emerges when we’re relegated already? 
 

And those came against Southampton, Forest (who basically played with ten men towards the latter stages) and already relegated Ipswich……. That’s absolutely nothing to shout about.

Agree mate.

 

I would hugely question the lack of mentality which was present in the players around January-April.

[moore_94]

Attempted justification of his records with us is quite funny - prior to relegation:

 

19 games

2 wins

2 draws

15 losses

11 goals scored

45 conceded

0.42 PPG

 

9 consecutive home defeats without scoring - AN ALL TIME TOP FLIGHT FOOTBALL LEAGUE RECORD - no other club in the entire 136 year history of the top flight of the football league has EVER been that bad

 

There are very few clubs where those kinds of records will not result in a manager, deservedly, getting sacked

 

I could not give a toss about the state of the squad, it is quite literally one of the most pathetic managerial performances of all time

 

But we picked up a couple of wins against our fellow shite relegated sides after being relegated? Sod off

[AKCJ]

21 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

Steve Cooper didn’t lose a record breaking amount of games at home without scoring a goal. Ruud statistically has been our worst ever manager. 

What's your point? The squad is still woeful.

[AKCJ]

10 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Attempted justification of his records with us is quite funny - prior to relegation:

 

19 games

2 wins

2 draws

15 losses

11 goals scored

45 conceded

0.42 PPG

 

9 consecutive home defeats without scoring - AN ALL TIME TOP FLIGHT FOOTBALL LEAGUE RECORD - no other club in the entire 136 year history of the top flight of the football league has EVER been that bad

 

There are very few clubs where those kinds of records will not result in a manager, deservedly, getting sacked

 

I could not give a toss about the state of the squad, it is quite literally one of the most pathetic managerial performances of all time

 

But we picked up a couple of wins against our fellow shite relegated sides after being relegated? Sod off

I haven't seen anyone trying to justify him.

[Daz93]

We need someone who can completely rebuild the squad, dictating standards and demanding quality.

 

On the evidence so far he unfortunately is not that person.