Ruud van Nistelrooy - New Manager - Official

[The Doctor]

6 minutes ago, The Bear said:

Him walking maybe the best thing that could happen. If they bring in an experienced manager I'd expect you to pick up points. 

not happening, it's the most braindead take that's so pervasive among football fans. The reason things were so shit under Cooper is, firstly because he's a shit manager, but also because his style of play does not work for the squad we've assembled. It'd be even worse under Dyche or another 90s throwback because this squad is built around Enzos style, it's built for high counter pressing and maintaining possession in front of low blocks. If RvN walks and we get "an experienced manager", we go down sub 20 points. The only way we stay up if he walks is if we look to the continent or further aboard for an Iraola type manager who plays the style of football this squad has been built for and wants to chance themselves at the PL.

[Stadt]

I want him to walk as it'd be the clearest sign to the rest of the world we're abysmally ran. 

[Joe90lcfc]

4 minutes ago, Happy Fox said:

He might as he’s local I rate him higher than Cooper he’s on par with RVN for me but might be able to get more output from this current set up it won’t be Pretty mind you but hopefully keeps us up.

On what evidence do you have dyche the same as rvn? Dyche is a better manger surly? 

[joachim1965]

2 minutes ago, Stadt said:

I want him to walk as it'd be the clearest sign to the rest of the world we're abysmally ran. 

Absolutely. 

[Noahfence]

Do managers ever walk away? 

Edited 23 January by Noahfence

[Stadt]

1 minute ago, The Doctor said:

It'd be even worse under Dyche or another 90s throwback because this squad is built around Enzos style, it's built for high counter pressing and maintaining possession in front of low blocks.

90s throwback is harsh on Dyche.

 

His teams press better than he gets credit for, they counterpress high before settling back into a lower block. There are smatterings of Enzo's squad but it's a disparately assembled team. 

[jv1]

Absolutely ridiculous he even has the chance to walk - should have been sacked Sunday morning 

[filbertway]

1 hour ago, AKCJ said:

I think he's got every right to be annoyed that we're not proactive in the market. But to me this is Ruud trying to deflect blame for the last 6 weeks.

 

Ultimately not many managers will survive 7 defeats on the trot. He will know that.

 

Just as he will have known that we're constantly walking the tight rope of PSR and that the squad is pitiful before taking the job.

Not many managers walk into a team that lost 5 of their last 6. Picks up 4 points then loses his best player and the man that's contributed to most undeserved points.

 

Let's not make out he's losing games where we're the favourites.

 

The only 2 teams that are non established premier league teams who have (dabateably) worse squads than us are Southampton and Ipswich.

 

Cooper managed to spend £40-50m and start this season with a weaker first 11 than the one that finished the Championship season

 

Had our "world class finisher" been able to score some absolute sitters then we're probably sat here on a few more points as well.

 

Realistically Ruud has got things wrong, but people looking at this so black and white are the same people that refused to hear any negatives about Rodgers. 

 

"top 5" "FA cup" 

 

Result driven opinions are pointless, they'll change so frequently there's no point even saying anything.

[moore_94]

Based on his previous ones I don’t think he will say much different to usual about transfers in his press conference tomorrow

 

Unless he has finally “snapped” and is fed up…

[Lako42]

On 13/01/2025 at 22:44, Sly said:

If you were earning millions, would you want to live in Leicester? 
 

 

 

I wouldn't want to live anywhere near Nottingham either

 

 

Players are generally not very imaginative 

[daddylonglegs]

Rudkin must be absolutely perplexed by this situation. Ruud had an impressive playing career & had great aura. What else would we possibly need in order to avoid relegation?

You've got to feel for the Rudster.

[Graceroad]

2 minutes ago, filbertway said:

Not many managers walk into a team that lost 5 of their last 6. Picks up 4 points then loses his best player and the man that's contributed to most undeserved points.

 

Let's not make out he's losing games where we're the favourites.

 

The only 2 teams that are non established premier league teams who have (dabateably) worse squads than us are Southampton and Ipswich.

 

Cooper managed to spend £40-50m and start this season with a weaker first 11 than the one that finished the Championship season

 

Had our "world class finisher" been able to score some absolute sitters then we're probably sat here on a few more points as well.

 

Realistically Ruud has got things wrong, but people looking at this so black and white are the same people that refused to hear any negatives about Rodgers. 

 

"top 5" "FA cup" 

 

Result driven opinions are pointless, they'll change so frequently there's no point even saying anything.

Where you saying the same about Vardy when he was missing sitters under Cooper? The one against Spurs and a couple v Villa spring instantly  to mind

[ClaphamFox]

Just now, Stadt said:

90s throwback is harsh on Dyche.

 

His teams press better than he gets credit for, they counterpress high before settling back into a lower block. There are smatterings of Enzo's squad but it's a disparately assembled team. 

The club chose Enzo because he likes to play a certain way. Then he left and we went with Cooper (apparently against Top's better judgment), whose teams play in a very different way. That didn't work so we went back to an Enzo-style appointment in RVN because his style of play would be more suited to the squad. Now that isn't working, will the club to pivot back to a manager who has more in common with Cooper than Maresca? I just can't see Top going for it. And I suspect Dyche would probably steer clear of our shit show anyway...

[Lako42]

**** I really want him to walk 

[Stadt]

9 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

The club chose Enzo because he likes to play a certain way. Then he left and we went with Cooper (apparently against Top's better judgment), whose teams play in a very different way. That didn't work so we went back to an Enzo-style appointment in RVN because his style of play would be more suited to the squad. Now that isn't working, will the club to pivot back to a manager who has more in common with Cooper than Maresca? I just can't see Top going for it. And I suspect Dyche would probably steer clear of our shit show anyway...

There is no logic or process to our appointments, it's just who is available basically, Rodgers is the only manager we've ever poached.

 

Dyche can just wait it out until somebody panics next season. I can see him at Leeds when Farke does what he always does.

[Ric Flair]

16 minutes ago, Noahfence said:

Do managers ever walk away? 

Yes, this said manager did from PSV 2 years ago.

 

It happens frequently in countries where they aren't sat on millions if they bide their time and get sacked instead. Fairly rare in the PL obviously.

[dnewty]

I wouldn’t blame him what so ever.

He can state that’s he’s been lied to and his reputation will be intact.

[GingerrrFox]

What’s laughable is any **** thinking a change in manager will mean a change in our fortune. This club is ****ed. Proper ****ed. Not only do we have an absolute shower of shit in the playing squad. Those in charge keep making bad financial decisions and keep mortgaging our future to maintain the status quo. 

[Stuntman_Mike]

20 minutes ago, Noahfence said:

Do managers ever walk away? 

I'd imagine a fair few 'mutual consents' are clubs saving face when a manager has had enough.

 

In this instance, if Ruud did walk he'd have the perfect reason for it and if the club came out stating it was mutual or they'd sacked him instead they don't look good either way. They've either hired the wrong person and sacked him after a handful of games, or they've quite clearly used the mutual line when we all know the truth about his frustrations with what and who he's working with. 

[orangecity23]

2 minutes ago, GingerrrFox said:

What’s laughable is any **** thinking a change in manager will mean a change in our fortune. This club is ****ed. Proper ****ed. Not only do we have an absolute shower of shit in the playing squad. Those in charge keep making bad financial decisions and keep mortgaging our future to maintain the status quo. 

This is bang on. For starters, Ruud out now would mean captain speedy and his fax machine would have to start working on a new manager search to go with all the transfer business he's already not doing, so you are looking at at least 1, if not 2 games with the caretaker team that brought us the 4-1 battering away at Brentford.

 

Then, after a long and exhaustive search involving ringing the few football agents they actually get in with, it's #WelcomeBrussell

[funkyrobot]

There’s absolutely no way our defence can play #Dycheball. He relies on strong and fit shithouses at the back, immense in the air and brutal in the tackle. We’ve not got anything like that, Vesty can’t head the ball or run, Faes thinks he’s Franz Beckenbauer. Coady’s strength is on and off field rapid-fire banter only and Okoli is clearly a PSR casualty and probably not up to it. If RVN leaves then going for Dyche isn’t going to stop us going down, but it will mean we play awful football in The Championship. 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

24 minutes ago, daddylonglegs said:

Rudkin must be absolutely perplexed by this situation. Ruud had an impressive playing career & had great aura. What else would we possibly need in order to avoid relegation?

You've got to feel for the Rudster.

And all this happened after sacking Mike Stowell. How could we have done any more? 

[daddylonglegs]

12 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

And all this happened after sacking Mike Stowell. How could we have done any more? 

I smell an internal review between the Rudster, Big Suze & Top. We've got it sorted. 

[Supergray22]

52 minutes ago, Stadt said:

I want him to walk as it'd be the clearest sign to the rest of the world we're abysmally ran. 

Me too. I was just about to post that. If not the torches at this club will continue to bury their heads. 

[Mickyblueeyes]

Walk Ruud, do it for the good of the club. We need things to come out in the open.