Ruud van Nistelrooy - New Manager - Official

[trooky]

On 12/03/2025 at 21:31, The Doctor said:

ah yes, because it's a pure coincidence that there's been several accounts with names themed around Grace Road acting as the Cooper Defence League...

 

He was absolutely shit, there was zero tactical coherence, we were off bottom because of questionable penalty decisions at Southampton and Ipswich, and we'd have gotten nowhere near 17th, we'd have plummetted the moment Palace picked up form

 

The revisionism is in pretending that Ruud being worse made Cooper in any way good. We'd not have got close to survival under him.

Yep totally agree, Cooper was shit and deserved sacking.

 

I don't understand how anyone can defend Cooper after his summer transfer window signing Ayew, BDR, Skipp, Edouard and Okoli. 

 

For some bizarre reason he chose not to play Bilal, his best signing. Says it all really. 

 

Ruud has been shocking, but the board and Cooper are the catalyst for this shit show of a season. 

 

 

 

 

[Fox92]

3 minutes ago, trooky said:

Yep totally agree, Cooper was shit and deserved sacking.

 

I don't understand how anyone can defend Cooper after his summer transfer window signing Ayew, BDR, Skipp, Edouard and Okoli. 

 

For some bizarre reason he chose not to play Bilal, his best signing. Says it all really. 

 

Ruud has been shocking, but the board and Cooper are the catalyst for this shit show of a season. 

 

 

 

 

Ruud has been shocking. There is no 'but' in there. He has overseen 6 consecutive home games without us scoring a goal. His performance as manager has been a disgrace.

[Happy Fox]

Ruud is Top's choice, so I cannot imagine he will be shown the door. We are stuck with this dire football for the months ahead. Looking forward to lower midtable championship football next season.

[Stadt]

2 hours ago, ClaphamFox said:

Extremely limited choice of decent candidates at the moment - nobody in a job is going to quit at this stage of the season. Much better to wait until the summer when we'll have far more to choose from.

I asked AI and the average salary for a manager in the Portuguese league is about to £100 - 300k p/a. If we showed a bit of iniative we could very easily 4/5/6x their salary which would be a big incentive to join now.

 

Vasco Matos is doing incredibly well at Santa Clara. Marco Silva joined a doomed Hull side, admittedly he was unemployed but we're a global name, pay well, we have the skeleton of a talented squad and a top 5 training ground in the world. Getting somebody in now and giving them 5 or so games gives them a massive head start.

[Paninistickers]

Why's he keep going on about the Chelsea performance? 

 

Just because it was a notch above abysmal, that hardly makes it a basis of pride and ethics. 

[The_77]

On 09/03/2025 at 14:48, winteriscoming said:

He’s not Dyche. 
I’ve seen enough Dyche hoof ball to know he’s not what we need. 
I’m not saying I’ve watched every game Fischer has managed but he’s clearly imo a better option than Dyche. 

You’re giving our squad way too much credit. We’re not good enough to outplay and outpass anyone. We can’t pass, we can’t run, and, without Fatawu, we don’t have anyone who can beat a man on the dribble.
 

Nobody is going to get progressive tactics out of this lot, the players just aren’t at that level for this league. Hoofball might be the only way we can even sniff a result. 

[Lako42]

2 hours ago, ClaphamFox said:

Extremely limited choice of decent candidates at the moment - nobody in a job is going to quit at this stage of the season. Much better to wait until the summer when we'll have far more to choose from.

 

2 hours ago, indierich06 said:

Don't think it's the best idea for a new man to come in and probably oversee a bunch of defeats, fans will be calling for his head by the end of the season - absolutely no doubt.

 

2 hours ago, Chelmofox said:

Nah, unless there is someone out there they really think can keep us up, we should be preparing candidates who can get a good preseason in them. Bringing in someone who is going to lose every game is gonna lose the fans before the end of the season.

Yep, I was chatting shit in fairness 

[The_77]

Just now, The_77 said:

You’re giving our squad way too much credit. We’re not good enough to outplay and outpass anyone. We can’t pass, we can’t run, and, without Fatawu, we don’t have anyone who can beat a man on the dribble.
 

Nobody is going to get progressive tactics out of this lot, the players just aren’t at that level for this league. Hoofball might be the only way we can even sniff a result. 

Also, most of our players are too soft and need a disciplinarian. 

[inckley fox]

1 hour ago, Paninistickers said:

Why's he keep going on about the Chelsea performance? 

 

Just because it was a notch above abysmal, that hardly makes it a basis of pride and ethics. 

Absolutely. He's remained popular with the players by setting the bar appropriately low for them.

[plinchiestincture]

2 hours ago, The_77 said:

Also, most of our players are too soft and need a disciplinarian. 

According to The Daily Mail Sherry from Swindon is available at very reasonable rates and could quickly knock or whip them into shape.

[ClaphamFox]

2 hours ago, The_77 said:

Also, most of our players are too soft and need a disciplinarian. 

Disciplinarians are only effective if the players buy into it. Old-school military-type managers are a thing of the past. If Jock Wallace was appointed to manage our current squad, he’s lose the dressing room and be sacked within months. 

Edited 14 March by ClaphamFox

[Guy]

On 12/03/2025 at 20:32, Mike the Metal Ed said:

Has any Premier League club ever had three permanent first team managers in a single season and not been a total shitshow that inevitably got relegated?

I don't think three managers in their own right in the Prem. for one team in a season has happened before - being as the Peter Taylor, Bassett/Adams and then Adams solo were more two and a half than three. That said I noted a previous poster said similar happened at Fulham one season. Watford too I suspect in the recent years when they were in the Prem. under their bat shit crazy Italian ownership. Meanwhile nobody over a certain age on here could forget when it happened to us in the Championship (Allen, Megson and Holloway) when under Mandaric of course and we sank to our lowest ever level. At least that did us a big favour in the long run though by bringing N.Pearson to the club! 

[Mike the Metal Ed]

Just now, Guy said:

I don't think three managers in their own right in the Prem. for one team in a season has happened before - being as the Peter Taylor, Bassett/Adams and then Adams solo were more two and a half than three. That said I noted a previous poster said similar happened at Fulham one season. Watford too I suspect in the recent years when they were in the Prem. under their bat shit crazy Italian ownership. Meanwhile nobody over a certain age on here could forget when it happened to us in the Championship (Allen, Megson and Holloway) when under Mandaric of course and we sank to our lowest ever level. At least that did us a big favour in the long run though by bringing N.Pearson to the club! 

I think people are misunderstanding the second part of the assignment.

[Guy]

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Edited 14 March by Guy

[Guy]

10 minutes ago, Mike the Metal Ed said:

I think people are misunderstanding the second part of the assignment.

That's as maybe! Anyway as I thought then Watford were the last club at Prem level to hire three managers in their own right in a season and end up relegated - not once but twice! 2019-20 first off (including their final FT appointment of a certain Nigel Pearson!, then 2021-22 rinse and repeat, their last Premier league season to date. You're welcome! 

[Paninistickers]

2 hours ago, ClaphamFox said:

Disciplinarians are only effective if the players buy into it. Old-school military-type managers are a thing of the past. If Jock Wallace was appointed to manage our current squad, he’s lose the dressing room and be sacked within months. 

There is something kinda amusing to thi know Faes, Vesty and BdcR run up slag heaps

[Dan]

13 hours ago, Happy Fox said:

Ruud is Top's choice, so I cannot imagine he will be shown the door. We are stuck with this dire football for the months ahead. Looking forward to lower midtable championship football next season.

At least Aiyawatt throwing his weight behind this one publicly is a small bit of positive to take. The fact it's gone this spectacularly badly (even I didn't think he could get it this wrong) means he has absolutely nowhere to hide anymore. Will try of course though.

[Sly]

1 minute ago, Dan said:

At least Aiyawatt throwing his weight behind this one publicly is a small bit of positive to take. The fact it's gone this spectacularly badly (even I didn't think he could get it this wrong) means he has absolutely nowhere to hide anymore. Will try of course though.

You’re right. It feels like he’s doubled down on the appointment by letting him stay as well.

 

We've gone from being really poor, to totally ****, which is some achievement in all honesty. 

[SafewayFox]

Listening to his pre-match comments ahead of the United game highlights how out of his depth he is.

 

It’s genuinely a shame as he at least doesn’t blame the refs for everything but he doesn’t ever seem to have an idea on what needs changing.

 

If we keep him in the Championship next season, I think it might finally be the final (of many decisions) that kills any enthusiasm for all things LCFC.

Edited 15 March by SafewayFox

[The Doctor]

17 hours ago, The_77 said:

Also, most of our players are too soft and need a disciplinarian. 

we know full well though that the players would throw a strop and go to Aiyawatt to have a disciplinarian sacked though

[CrazyKopCorner]

The chant of 'why the **** are you still ear' has never been more appropriate. 

 

Have some dignity & pride man and walk for gods sake. 

Edited 15 March by CrazyKopCorner

[Tuna]

Wrong thread

Edited 15 March by Tuna

[Paninistickers]

42 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

we know full well though that the players would throw a strop and go to Aiyawatt to have a disciplinarian sacked though

That isn't correct at all. They need to be led. And believe in the battle plan. Disciplinarian management is a myth. Real discipline comes.from Structure, professional progression, coaching, critical thinking. 

 

Neither Cooper nor this dreadful Dutchman offer any of that. 

 

They followed Enzo to the letter last season, even against all logic in that March April period..

[Claudio Fannieri]

9 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

That isn't correct at all. They need to be led. And believe in the battle plan. Disciplinarian management is a myth. Real discipline comes.from Structure, professional progression, coaching, critical thinking. 

 

Neither Cooper nor this dreadful Dutchman offer any of that. 

 

They followed Enzo to the letter last season, even against all logic in that March April period..

I agree, a well structured plan and professionalism drives the culture and standards. 

 

I think the big issue last season in March/April was fatigue especially with the midfield, we had the likes of Ndidi and KDH playing on fumes and so we lost a lot of our intensity, largely due to losing Casadei due to loan termination and Praet being made of weetabix and therefore we had limited options to rotate. 
 

 

[The Doctor]

15 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

That isn't correct at all. They need to be led. And believe in the battle plan. Disciplinarian management is a myth. Real discipline comes.from Structure, professional progression, coaching, critical thinking. 

 

Neither Cooper nor this dreadful Dutchman offer any of that. 

 

They followed Enzo to the letter last season, even against all logic in that March April period..

No, it very much is. We've seen that this squad have zero professionalism and will undermine managers for demanding anything of them.