This fckin Dawson

[CrazyKopCorner]

Just now, kyleolly said:

It’s not really his fault the bloke was a coach at Newcastles youth team before he came to us and then thrown in at the deep end to manage a premier league game Top should take the blame for either not getting Ruud in quick enough or not having a more experienced interim coach.

I know but FM he literally put another tier on Coopers ineptitude. There was absolutely no logic to the formation, selection or tactics - after that today I’d thank him for his services and move him on - way below standard atrocious 

[Foxin_Mad]

4 hours ago, funkyrobot said:

How did Dawson see the match against Chelsea and decide that El Khanouss deserved zero minutes today. 

Because Cooper and his coaching team hate any ounce of skill or creativity, it might create a chance or some excitement. They are playing for a 0-0 until they realise when are 2-0 down because we have Faes in defence. Then he tries to attack. They all need clearing out and if coopers 'team'. Absolute rot. 

[Beachyboy]

30 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

Sorry, but it WAS his fault.

 

He simply isn't qualified (and probably not authorised) to oversee and implement a major tactical and personnel shift - let alone to do so in five days of coaching. 

 

 

 

Ruud isn't qualified to do that nobody is really, what you do is change morale, look at what Shakespeare did (rip) against Liverpool a few years ago against Liverpool when Ranieri left.

[Trent Steel]

Les Dawson more like

 

[dmayne7]

3 hours ago, Paninistickers said:

That's just totally wrong dude. Absolutely wrong.

 

The clue is in the name of the job.. Care. Take. 

 

Any changes needed to be reintroducing  senior players who Cooper had alienated. Not a root and branch destruction and rebuild inside four days. 

 

I'm not disagreeing that changing to that system, a notoriously difficult one, isn't high risk. But we don't know if they've been working on that for weeks. We played it in pre season as well. 

 

It was absolutely crap and the biggest issue was that he made no changes at half time, just like Cooper. But the reason Cooper got sacked is because the performances had been utterly shambolic or did you think they've been good? So keeping things exactly the same would have been madness. That first 30 mins against Chelsea was the most passive I've seen in 25/30 years of supporting so I'm pretty sure if we'd been exactly the same in terms of setup, everyone would have lost their mind.

 

Point is, this is a coach who probably never expected to manage a game and he's thrown in at the deep end. He tried something and it didn't come off. His failure to change it when it was clear it wasn't working will probably cost him his job. The fault lies completely with the board for failing to get Ruud in place in time and for also being in a position where one of Cooper's cronies had to take charge. Everyone is angry at that performance so he's the fall guy and I understand that.

 

Ultimately what we're talking about is entirely subjective so whilst you might disagree with my opinion, it's quite literally impossible for me to be wrong.

[Lesterlad]

6 hours ago, Paninistickers said:

Wtf does he he think he is trying to reinvent the wheel in two or three days and leave five/six first teamers on the bench? 

 

The word is Caretaker. Take fckin Care. Not root and branch restructure when you aren't even remotely qualified to do so. 

 

An absolute grade A tvvat

 

 

Do you like him

[funkyrobot]

28 minutes ago, dmayne7 said:

I'm not disagreeing that changing to that system, a notoriously difficult one, isn't high risk. But we don't know if they've been working on that for weeks. We played it in pre season as well. 

 

It was absolutely crap and the biggest issue was that he made no changes at half time, just like Cooper. But the reason Cooper got sacked is because the performances had been utterly shambolic or did you think they've been good? So keeping things exactly the same would have been madness. That first 30 mins against Chelsea was the most passive I've seen in 25/30 years of supporting so I'm pretty sure if we'd been exactly the same in terms of setup, everyone would have lost their mind.

 

Point is, this is a coach who probably never expected to manage a game and he's thrown in at the deep end. He tried something and it didn't come off. His failure to change it when it was clear it wasn't working will probably cost him his job. The fault lies completely with the board for failing to get Ruud in place in time and for also being in a position where one of Cooper's cronies had to take charge. Everyone is angry at that performance so he's the fall guy and I understand that.

 

Ultimately what we're talking about is entirely subjective so whilst you might disagree with my opinion, it's quite literally impossible for me to be wrong.

If you are under qualified for a job that you are having to do at short notice I.e. ‘thrown in at the deep end’, then keep it simple and don’t try and be clever. Dawson has to take a good part of the responsibility for that performance due to the frankly bizarre selection, the clueless formation and a complete lack of in-game management. 

Edited 30 November 2024 by funkyrobot

[dmayne7]

19 minutes ago, funkyrobot said:

If you are under qualified for a job that you are having to do at short notice I.e. ‘thrown in at the deep end’, then keep it simple and don’t try and be clever. Dawson has to take a good part of the responsibility for that performance due to the frankly bizarre selection, the clueless formation and a complete lack of in-game management. 

You're not wrong but ultimately the responsibility falls to the board for leaving somebody so out of their depth, to take charge of the game. If they were competent we would never be in that situation. 

 

He did a cack job but it wasn't what he was employed to do so I think the level of abuse levelled at him is a bit embarrassing when I suspect the real target is still Cooper (for what he left us and the mood he created), and the board for above reasons.

[CosbehFox]

Wouldn’t just have it on him. Andrew Hughes by the far the most experienced. 
 

absolutely cluster**** of a shape. 
 

The midfield was wretched and not to change it at least 35 mins in was a disaster 

[Dan]

It is genuinely beyond me how we've managed to pick two caretakers in a row who I think I could've done no worse than in a one off game.

[Stadt]

The Bournemouth game in 22/23 was shambolic with so much riding on it - with longstanding coaches in charge to boot.

 

This was worse. There’s no contingency when we sack a manager and worse still, no plan for sacking the manager initially.

 

Shoddy operation all through the club. Yet the BC game bankruptcy is supposedly some genius move  

[Sly]

Our caretaker managers in my time as a supporter have been great haven’t they?
 

Just look at the win % of each one.
 

Ben Dawson - 0%

Dean Smith - 25%

Stowell / Sadler - 33%

Appleton - 100%

Rudkin/ Beaglehold / Stowell - 25%

Powell / Stowell - 100%

Burrows / Taggart - 20%

Bassett / Wilkinson - 0%

Parker - 0%

Nish/Turker/Parker/Walsh - 25%

McDonald/McAndrew - 0%
 

It’s caretakers in general. They get given a shitty situation, so Dawson is no worse than a load of others we’ve had. 

 

[Filbertblue]

Last week it it was Cooper's fault. This week it's some poor guy called Dawson simply because he was asked to take the game because we had no one else. Next week it will be Ruud's fault. What about the 11 millionaires on the pitch? When things get difficult - they're minds seem to be wanting to get back to their flash cars and their bleached blonde girlfriends. 

[Dahnsouff]

He lost badly against a team we were expected to lose badly against. Some of the reaction to the bloke is way over the top, anyway, he is back into the shadows now.

[Happy Fox]

53 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

He lost badly against a team we were expected to lose badly against. Some of the reaction to the bloke is way over the top, anyway, he is back into the shadows now.

Were we expected to lose badly to Brentford? Even Southampton lost 3-1 against them! We were abysmally set up there is no denying that.

 

I hope Ruud kicks the f**ker out today.

Edited 1 December 2024 by Happy Fox

[Dahnsouff]

17 minutes ago, Happy Fox said:

Were we expected to lose badly to Brentford? Even Southampton lost 3-1 against them! We were abysmally set up there is no denying that.

 

I hope Ruud kicks the f**ker out today.

You  do realise they are the most successful team at home this season right? So, yes, we were expected to lose badly. Not denying we were badly setup, just as we have been most (all?) of this season  

 

We just love to pile on an individual, its very childish.

[lfu]

8 hours ago, Sly said:

Our caretaker managers in my time as a supporter have been great haven’t they?
 

Just look at the win % of each one.
 

Ben Dawson - 0%

Dean Smith - 25%

Stowell / Sadler - 33%

Appleton - 100%

Rudkin/ Beaglehold / Stowell - 25%

Powell / Stowell - 100%

Burrows / Taggart - 20%

Bassett / Wilkinson - 0%

Parker - 0%

Nish/Turker/Parker/Walsh - 25%

McDonald/McAndrew - 0%
 

It’s caretakers in general. They get given a shitty situation, so Dawson is no worse than a load of others we’ve had. 

 

Should've brought Appleton back in as caretaker, his 24 inch pythons are unmatchable

[moore_94]

@Paninistickers - I have some good news for you!

 

It is first-team coach Ben Dawson who takes most of the daily training sessions.

 

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2025/01/24/leicester-turmoil-van-nistelrooy-fights-drift-relegation/

[Free Falling Foxes]

16 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

@Paninistickers - I have some good news for you!

 

It is first-team coach Ben Dawson who takes most of the daily training sessions.

 

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2025/01/24/leicester-turmoil-van-nistelrooy-fights-drift-relegation/

'Whoever the manager is, the club appears to be drifting – quietly – towards another Championship return.'

 

Good, accurate article though I would auggest there is nothing too quiet about it on these boards at least.

 

This article also reminds us that Top and Whelen haven't responded to press requests for interviews since 2015/16. This is curious. We were on Premier league champions and the next few seasons were very good too - indeed magnificent compared to the last 3 seasons.

You would think they would have been shouting from the rooftops?

 

Edited 24 January by Free Falling Foxes

[Paninistickers]

54 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

@Paninistickers - I have some good news for you!

 

It is first-team coach Ben Dawson who takes most of the daily training sessions.

 

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2025/01/24/leicester-turmoil-van-nistelrooy-fights-drift-relegation/

No surprise is it?

[Aus Fox]

On 01/12/2024 at 03:38, lgfualol said:

A foxestalk vote would have selected a better lineup and tactics. 

I love that this was the first post when I opened the thread and then I had to think back which clown are you talking about?