How do you define a club legend?

[Torquay Gunner]

I was thinking the other day about this, because Legend is a term banded about quite easily these days.  I have heard Three O Walcott being described as such recently and I would certainly not consider him an Arsenal legend, but probably some misguided supporters would.  I have been lucky in that I have seen in the flesh proper Arsenal legends, such as Tony Adams and Thierry Henry.

 

However, people’s opinions on what constitutes a club legend seem to vary greatly.  I would define it as longevity and honours,  or in the case of a striker their goalscoring record.  Perhaps players that have had to carry weak teams on their mighty shoulders.  But not all players with apperances and medals would necessarily qualify.

 

Interested to know outside of Vardy who Leicester fans would consider worthy of that accolade.  I am assuming Kasper Schmeichel and Wes Morgan would be considered as club legends.   Would you include Kante and Mahrez in that?  From older teams, obviously you had a lot of success under Martin O’Neill, so would lynchpins Matt Elliott and Muzzy Izzet qualify?  Would Heskey also? I am old enough to remember the 70’ s and quality players like Keith Weller and Frank Worthington.  Would they be considered as legends? 

 

I guess it is subjective up to a point, so it probably should not annoy me as much as it does when I think that label has been misused! 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 12 January by Torquay Gunner

[HesNotGudjonsonn2]

Andy King!

 

Length with the club plus achievements.

Edited 12 January by HesNotGudjonsonn2

[Lionator]

Before the inevitable arguments start, I’ll get the first word in. Anyone who doesn’t think Mahrez constitutes a ‘Leicester legend’ is an idiot. 
 

I’d go for two criteria 1) loyalty 2) achieving something above what would be expected of them. 

[Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot]

All players who won the league for us are legends in my eyes, because they won the league for us. 

[murphy]

4 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Before the inevitable arguments start, I’ll get the first word in. Anyone who doesn’t think Mahrez constitutes a ‘Leicester legend’ is an idiot. 
 

I’d go for two criteria 1) loyalty 2) achieving something above what would be expected of them. 

So Mahrez fails your own criteria.  I don't class going on strike and bitching about the club as loyalty. 

 

 

Edited 12 January by murphy

[The Horse's Mouth]

Think people confuse legends with what you’d call a cult hero. Of our title winning team id probably only consider Kasper, Wes, Mahrez and Vardy in that. Mahrez is a big exception to the rule purely because he we will never have a player of his talent again 

[murphy]

7 minutes ago, Torquay Gunner said:

I was thinking the other day about this, because Legend is a term banded about quite easily these days.  I have heard Three O Walcott being described as such recently and I would certainly not consider him an Arsenal legend, but probably some misquided supporters would.  I have been lucky in that I have seen in the flesh proper Arsenal legends, such as Tony Adams and Thierry Henry.

 

However, people’s opinions on what constitutes a club legend seem to vary greatly.  I would define it as longevity and honours,  or in the case of a striker their goalscoring record.  Perhaps players that have had to carry weak teams on their mighty shoulders.  But not all players with apperances and medals would necessarily qualify.

 

Interested to know outside of Vardy who Leicester fans would consider worthy of that accolade.  I am assuming Kasper Schmeichel and Wes Morgan would be considered as club legends.   Would you include Kante and Marez in that?  From older teams, obviously you had a lot of success under Martin O’Neill, so would lynchpins Matt Elliott and Muzzy Izzet qualify?  Would Heskey also? I am old enough to remember the 70’ s and quality players like Keith Weller and Frank Worthington.  Would they be considered as legends? 

 

I guess it is subjective up to a point, so it probably should not annoy me as much as it does when I think that label has been misused! 

 

 

 

 

 

I think that longevity has to come into it.  For that reason, I have a hard time classing Kante as a Leicester legend.  He was only here for one season and took some persuading to come.  He did amazing things for us while he was here and earned our enduring goodwill, but I can't class a one season player as a Leicester legend. 

[RumbleFox]

8 minutes ago, murphy said:

So Mahrez fails your own criteria.  I don't class going on strike and bitching about the club as loyalty. 

 

 

I think he meant either/or. 

[Fox92]

Players who deliver trophies. A goal in a Cup final. A lot of people seem to gloss over Claridge, for instance, but for me he is a legend as he scored two of the most important goals in the clubs history.

 

 

[RumbleFox]

The entire 11 from the title win are legends. It’s insane to argue otherwise. They achieved not only the greatest feat in our history but the greatest feat in the global history of team sport. To not class every single one of them as a legend is genuinely mental. Of course I love Ian Marshall and Gerry Taggart. Of course I prefer Matt Elliott over Danny Simpson but every single one of those players is a club legend and always will be. 

Edited 12 January by RumbleFox

[Torquay Gunner]

1 minute ago, Fox92 said:

Players who deliver trophies. A goal in a Cup final. A lot of people seem to gloss over Claridge, for instance, but for me he is a legend as he scored two of the most important goals in the clubs history.

 

 

So assume Tielemans would make your list? 

[tinpot_fox]

Unfortunately for some peoples opinions, Youri Tielemans will always be viewed as a club legend for the FA cup final goal. The Perez assist, Schmeichel saves and Iheanacho overall FA goal scoring could be argued to also but the goal will always be on the highlight reel and his name will always be the only one under either team name on the score line. 
 

so a single moment can also make a player legendary.

 

 

 

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[murphy]

6 minutes ago, RumbleFox said:

I think he meant either/or. 

That's not how it reads to me.  

[RumbleFox]

Just now, murphy said:

That's not how it reads to me.  

Given the context of him choosing Magrez as a legend I’d assumed it has to read that way unless, as you say, he’s gone against his own criteria which would seem mental in the space of 1 sentence. 

[ceebeefox]

12 minutes ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

Think people confuse legends with what you’d call a cult hero. Of our title winning team id probably only consider Kasper, Wes, Mahrez and Vardy in that. Mahrez is a big exception to the rule purely because he we will never have a player of his talent again 

Agree with this, but we wouldn’t have won the league without Kante, massive influence, so all league winners, legends.

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

17 minutes ago, Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot said:

All players who won the league for us are legends in my eyes, because they won the league for us. 

Yes. And for extra legend status then measure yourself against the likes of Andy King (won it all) and Vardy (no words needed).

 

I would also put Walsh close by for the length of service, and then the tier underneath you have the likes of Elliott, Taggart, Muzzy etc.

 

I’m sure others older than me can place the likes of Weller, Worthington etc 

[RumbleFox]

I find it funny in these chats that there’s a large percentage of people who appear to want as few legends as possible. Of course I don’t wanna give out a legend badge to Perez and Darren Eadie but there’s no harm in chucking in some names. For me Gerry Taggart is a club legend just because when I was 17 he looked like the biggest cvnt I’d ever seen. 

[murphy]

3 minutes ago, RumbleFox said:

Given the context of him choosing Magrez as a legend I’d assumed it has to read that way unless, as you say, he’s gone against his own criteria which would seem mental in the space of 1 sentence. 

Exactly my point. 

 

Anyway, let's ask him. 

 

Hey Lionator, did you mean either/or, or both? 

[Aus Fox]

Anyone that will be spoken about for generations, some players a good, some are great and some are spoken about still long after they’re gone.

Keith Weller, Gordon Banks for example, long gone, but those who saw them play in blue will talk about them forever.

[murphy]

1 minute ago, RumbleFox said:

I find it funny in these chats that there’s a large percentage of people who appear to want as few legends as possible. Of course I don’t wanna give out a legend badge to Perez and Darren Eadie but there’s no harm in chucking in some names. For me Gerry Taggart is a club legend just because when I was 17 he looked like the biggest cvnt I’d ever seen. 

Because the lower the bar, the less prestigious it becomes.  I like Gerry too, but being a big cvnt doesn't quite cut it as legend material. 

[StanSP]

Vardy is more than a club legend at this rate. 

 

Loyalty, longevity and delivers the goods season upon season. 

 

It's almost an injustice to him to put him in the same bracket as other players that do fit the 'legend' category. 

[Samilktray]

30 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Before the inevitable arguments start, I’ll get the first word in. Anyone who doesn’t think Mahrez constitutes a ‘Leicester legend’ is an idiot. 
 

I’d go for two criteria 1) loyalty 2) achieving something above what would be expected of them. 

I can’t believe anyone would think Mahrez was anything other than a club legend 

[Bezzanator89]

I don't think a club legend can be tied down to one particular category or criteria.

 

Naturally, the 2015-16 squad can all be perceived as such. That triumph never should have been able to happen, but it did. Every player in that squad made that possible, so they all meet the legend criteria.

 

Loyalty is another, so Graham Cross is another. No-one will likely ever surpass his appearance record. In terms of goalscorers, Jamie Vardy is only surpassed by Arthur Chandler and Arther Rowley, so they meet the criteria. Players who did the iconic piece of magic, or skill to achieve something wonderful, so despite his last season shenanigans, Youri Tielemans meets that criteria.

 

Managers like Martin O'Neill, Claudio Ranieri and Nigel Pearson, who helped the club accomplish so much and brought everyone together. The club truly felt as one during these times, compared to now where it has now never felt more divided.

 

Putting this all aside, any player that anyone could recall for something truly outstanding and memorable, could also be so considered a club legend, but this is very subjective. There are others that played before I was even born that are considered club legends, and I accept them for what they achieved based on what I have read and the stories my Dad told me growing up.

 

Is there truly a definition for club legend? No, there are many definitions. And people may disagree, because we are good at that. But one thing we can all agree on, anyone who helped take our club momumental steps forward to success or did something we can never forget or stop being thankful for, comes closer to meeting that criteria than anyone.

[RumbleFox]

6 minutes ago, murphy said:

Because the lower the bar, the less prestigious it becomes.  I like Gerry too, but being a big cvnt doesn't quite cut it as legend material. 

But does it lower the bar and it’s not even prestigious is it? It’s a bit of fun. People have legends for different reasons. The first player you saw score. The first player you met. The player that came into the team at the same time you started watching. The player that used to get you off your feet and made you love Leicester city. The player you pretended to be with your mates. The player who was a big cvnt. It doesn’t make Vardy less of a legend in my eyes if some nobber from Syston wants to have Ian Ormondroyd in his hall of fame because he was 8 when he first saw him play and he scored the winner in the first match he attended. 

Edited 12 January by RumbleFox

[RumbleFox]

I mean, Christ, for me Sinclair is a legend for scoring some truly wonderful own goals.