Ruud out - has to go

[HUNTA84]

I do feel sorry for him, although I thought he wasn't the right appointment. He seemed to hint that money would be spent in the january transfer window, which we're half way through with only 1 signing. We should've had 3 or 4 players in by now, getting them integrated into the squad. The club hired him, so they should be backing him. It seems they've already accepted relegation.

[robski]

1 hour ago, David Hankey said:

How many managers can you have in a season?

 

51 minutes ago, jayfox26 said:

Ask @superhorns

Er…38 I guess 

one for each game 

[Filbert Fireworks]

Merging the above gems.

Rooney Van Noidea

 

 

[dooflip]

I’m kind of in agreement with those that have said we looked better when rvn came in. But it’s marginal, and think it’s down to us keeping hold of the ball a bit more and not being so out and out defensive (but ineffective and clueless). I think it’s a much of a muchness if I’m honest, with rvn being just a little bit better, barely.

 

In truth, I don’t really care if we are defensive, or playing the possession game.

 

My requirement is having a team that press and show some fight and are quick in transition both in attack and going backwards.

 

Why on earth we slow everything down when we get the ball back and let the opposition get back in to shape us beyond me. Why we have got so few players bombing forward is mad.

 

we need to be aiming to hurt the opposition by any means possible.

 

Winks has the capability to play a quick ball for vardy and mavididi.

 

pressing counter attacking football is an absolute must us.

 

Vesty and Okoli at the back.

Faes as a dm who drops in to form a 3 when needed.

 

Ndidi (when fit) and Winks or Soumare as box to box midfielders.

 

That would then bench one of vardy, mavididi, bek and Buonanotte - we could rotate a bit here depending on who is in form and who we are playing, leaving one to come on and affect the game full of beans later on.

Edited 19 January by dooflip

[Pliskin]

38 minutes ago, HUNTA84 said:

I do feel sorry for him, although I thought he wasn't the right appointment. He seemed to hint that money would be spent in the january transfer window, which we're half way through with only 1 signing. We should've had 3 or 4 players in by now, getting them integrated into the squad. The club hired him, so they should be backing him. It seems they've already accepted relegation.

They haven’t, Top has made it clear it’s survival at all costs…. This is just another example of how deluded the current board room is….. 

 

And we can’t sign anyone else until at someone has left, as Coulibaly has taken the squad capacity to its max….. so again, shambolic. 

[J. James]

3 hours ago, Kitchandro said:

Nah, some of us are fed up of years of negative football that we had under Puel, Rodgers and then Cooper. The main reason I stopped going (though there many other reasons for not starting going again). 
 

The club has absolutely no worth if you don’t want to watch them. It’s a spectator sport.

You know, you are correct, l suppose given the choice of boring prem grind to finish 17th or entertaining mid table championship, l'd take the latter every time.

Prem is becoming a joke.

[The Horse's Mouth]

If we were completely cut adrift I’ve be like what’s the point. But the fact is despite 7 losses in a row we’re a win away from getting out the bottom 3. Get an experienced firefighter and role the dice again because ruud looks a busted flush and I don’t think the idea is for him to rebuild us in the division below 

[Dickov_Nige_Vards]

Nigel

[Wink84]

16 hours ago, John12345 said:

Maybe we could play ruud up front with vardy.

 

Appointing rvn was a really big risk and I'd sack him and get in dyche and give him some of the window.

Don't be silly. We'll wait till the window is closed and then try and get Dyche.

[Wigston2Canada]

He’s been very unlucky with injuries & he’s walked into a club that’s rotten to the core.

 

He’s far from the biggest issue at the club.

 

That said his team selection and subs just p*** me off beyond belief.

 

 

Edited 20 January by Wigston2Canada

[Sly]

3 hours ago, Dickov_Nige_Vards said:

Nigel

Unfortunately he’s not in the best of health currently, so I don’t think he’ll manage a football again. 

[LFEFox23]

On 18/01/2025 at 21:38, splinterdream said:

Maybe if he'd watched the games from 22/23, but Ward was number 2 when Ruud came in. Maybe Ward performs well in training. He gave Ward the chance and he blew it, but we have seen Ward have decent games, it's just likely he has no bottle

Ruud isn't daft, he's played at the highest possible level.... Players don't get picked on training ground form!

[daddylonglegs]

No but seriously at least he showed great aura when he beat a Steve Cooper side twice in two weeks as United boss. If it's enough for Jon, it's enough for me. 

 

He's obviously objectively doing a terrible job, but do think he's been unfortunate in a few matches. Just complete incompetence hiring him in the first place. 

 

Dyche wouldn't touch us with a barge pole but if we could get him in, I genuinely would. Sickening what this club has done to me.

[teblin]

1 minute ago, daddylonglegs said:

No but seriously at least he showed great aura when he beat a Steve Cooper side twice in two weeks as United boss. If it's enough for Jon, it's enough for me. 

 

He's obviously objectively doing a terrible job, but do think he's been unfortunate in a few matches. Just complete incompetence hiring him in the first place. 

 

Dyche wouldn't touch us with a barge pole but if we could get him in, I genuinely would. Sickening what this club has done to me.

I think dyche would take our job. It’s still a chance to build even if that is from the championship. He always lives pretty local to us.

[John rayner]

8 hours ago, Wink84 said:

Don't be silly. We'll wait till the window is closed and then try and get Dyche.

I can't see the point in getting rid of RVN and bringing Dyche  in nothing will change except that we will play 12 men behind the ball .

[AKCJ]

If they sack Ruud to bring in someone else and it'll end equally badly.

 

The manager is not the problem. He is having to pick from a disinterested, overpaid, lazy and talentless group of players. Alex Ferguson wouldn't get a tune out of this rabble of shite.

 

So, the man responsible for building this mess has to be sacked. He then needs to be replaced with an experienced director of football. One that knows how to rebuild a team.

 

Dan Ashworth is right there.

[Scanchez]

Time for the return of the King.

[Stuntman_Mike]

4 minutes ago, Scanchez said:

Time for the return of the King.

The strange thing is, we'd most likely be lucky to have him if we go down 

[jv1]

25 minutes ago, John rayner said:

I can't see the point in getting rid of RVN and bringing Dyche  in nothing will change except that we will play 12 men behind the ball .

we would become a lot harder to beat and a lot better defensively organised- keeping us in games and giving us half a chance that is for absolute certain- and he is a decent champ manager when we go down for next year

[cityfanlee23]

A lingering thought in the back of my mind is, what if we stick with Ruud and he walks in the summer after failing to keep us up, if we stick with him after 7 defeats in a row and he then abandons us anyway in summer, unless theres been some massive agreement breach and we promised money in January only to sign nobody else, Ruud walking in summer if we go down would be a massive kick in the teeth if we gamble on him when he’s so far proven so far he can’t stop the rot. 
 

We need assurances just as much as he does if we are going to keep him. 

[ClaphamFox]

1 hour ago, AKCJ said:

If they sack Ruud to bring in someone else and it'll end equally badly.

 

The manager is not the problem. He is having to pick from a disinterested, overpaid, lazy and talentless group of players. Alex Ferguson wouldn't get a tune out of this rabble of shite.

 

So, the man responsible for building this mess has to be sacked. He then needs to be replaced with an experienced director of football. One that knows how to rebuild a team.

 

Dan Ashworth is right there.

It's such a weird feeling at the moment. In any other season we'd be looking at our current position and thinking that if we sack the manager and get somebody decent in, survival would be very possible. We'd all be focused on if/when the club was going to pull the trigger and speculating on who might come in. And when the manager was sacked, we'd all be buzzing about the prospect of at least having a proper go at staying up.

 

I don't feel any of that this time. The club has already played its 'sack the manager' card and I just don't think they'll do it again. And even if they did, I don't think it would do any good. It just feels like the rot has set so deep within the squad that no manager could do anything with it. There's nothing to do but endure the rest of the season as we go down without a fight and mentally prepare ourselves for the Championship.

 

It's strange to feel so completely resigned to our fate when survival would usually seem very possible from our current position. 

Edited 20 January by ClaphamFox

[Fox92]

27 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

If they sack Ruud to bring in someone else and it'll end equally badly.

 

The manager is not the problem. He is having to pick from a disinterested, overpaid, lazy and talentless group of players. Alex Ferguson wouldn't get a tune out of this rabble of shite.

 

So, the man responsible for building this mess has to be sacked. He then needs to be replaced with an experienced director of football. One that knows how to rebuild a team.

 

Dan Ashworth is right there.

These disinterested, overpaid, lazy and talentless group of players have been here all season. But Cooper was picking up points with them here and there. Van Nistelrooy has to take some blame, he is picking the same players every week, performing the same strange subs every week, and expecting a different result. The man for building this mess should be sacked, dead right, but this wasn't used as the excuse for Cooper. The criticism he took was way over the top and now I'm glad people are finally seeing this squad is awful. 

[lcfc_forever]

Tanner has suggested we need the Cannon sale for more signings. But RVN was promised money and signings for January, and doesn't seem impatient. 

 

Make it make sense! 

[AKCJ]

Just now, Fox92 said:

These disinterested, overpaid, lazy and talentless group of players have been here all season. But Cooper was picking up points with them here and there. Van Nistelrooy has to take some blame, he is picking the same players every week, performing the same strange subs every week, and expecting a different result. The man for building this mess should be sacked, dead right, but this wasn't used as the excuse for Cooper. The criticism he took was way over the top and now I'm glad people are finally seeing this squad is awful. 

Through nothing but the sheer fortune of having a phenomenal goalkeeper putting up record breaking numbers to keep us in games.

 

The criticism for Cooper wasn't over the top. He had to go.

[coolhandfox]

34 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

Dan Ashworth is right there.

Man U transfer business this summer was dreadful.