A Call for Change: A Footballing Reset at Leicester City Football Club

[LCFCJohn]

3 minutes ago, purpleronnie said:

well last time 2005-2014 we still averaged around 23,000 including falling to the third tier, pretty good crowds IMO.  I very much doubt we'd go lower than that.

 

But I wouldnt care as long as tickets were reasonably priced, the glory hunters fecked off, and there was a return to a half decent atmosphere, and fans felt connected to the club.

I agree with the second paragraph about just going back to a passionate fan base even if it is smaller.

 

You’re likely right in your first paragraph. I just wonder whether the disconnect and how we have got here will drive away loyal fans that stuck around in the era you mentioned.

 

To be fair, I was a bit young when it went wrong before. My first season going was when we were promoted under Adams and then obviously a relegation later we spent a decade in the wilderness so that was my upbringing if you like as a fan! I can’t recall what the feeling was like form the fan base back then as I was only about 8! It can’t have been as divided as it is now?

[Stuntman_Mike]

10 hours ago, Ricey said:

I have mixed feelings about today.

March turn out was good, but as others have said, it fizzled out due to mixing with non protest fans. Earlier time and different route would have helped.

 

14th minute was hugely disappointing, especially considering how vocal people were during the Fulham match. A guy near me said “well there’s no need for that!”…turns out he thought everyone was singing “We are going down”. FFS.

 

A woman near me was absolutely buzzing with how few people joined in. I don't even see her get that excited when we score.

 

Unfortunately we have too many fans whose emotions and feelings don’t go beyond the current score, performance or result. They don’t look any deeper.

 

However, judging the protest on the impact it’s had on the media and TV coverage you can’t call it anything other than a success. The board are now under the spotlight ten times more than they were before.

 

Huge credit to @ProjectReset.

This sums up exactly what KPFC have created. I'm not sure I've seen a line so fitting for the majority of our support.

[Paninistickers]

43 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

I agree with the second paragraph about just going back to a passionate fan base even if it is smaller.

 

You’re likely right in your first paragraph. I just wonder whether the disconnect and how we have got here will drive away loyal fans that stuck around in the era you mentioned.

 

To be fair, I was a bit young when it went wrong before. My first season going was when we were promoted under Adams and then obviously a relegation later we spent a decade in the wilderness so that was my upbringing if you like as a fan! I can’t recall what the feeling was like form the fan base back then as I was only about 8! It can’t have been as divided as it is now?

Fanbase has always been a bit split. Back in the late 80s the 'hooligans' wanted Pleat Out but the majority of the crowd stuck by him til the very end. 

 

The only period the 'loyalist', what would now be KPFC fans, became vitriolic and unified with the more vocal fans was when Brian Little - someone they had taken to their hearts - returned for his first game as Villa manager. That atmosphere then was extraordinarily nasty. Best worst atmosphere I've ever heard. In that same period the nerds were unified about Mark McGhee and even MON during his infamous first 10 games. 

 

So, apart from that 18 month period, we've always been split between the fox leisure nerds as they used to be called and the vocal elements 

[Saxondale]

This whole thing is full of contradictions. There seems to be this idea that protesters are the ‘proper fans’ whereas non protesters are plastic/new fans. But the reality is that the Rudkin Out boys are the ones who can’t handle the fact we’re not still challenging for the top 6. 
 

There are many of us who have been supporting the club for years who recognise that - though this is a tough season - the club is in a relatively healthy state.

 

This targeting of Rudkin in particular is ridiculous, given that not one of you know who is responsible for what at the club. 

 

It doesn’t make you a King Power cultist to think that these protests are unnecessary.

 

Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but to try and imply this is about proper / not proper fans is arrogant, stupid and wrong.
 

I know I’m going to get absolute pelters on here, but evidence suggests that more people share my viewpoint - i.e. that wet rag of a chant yesterday.

[The Fosse Way]

1 minute ago, Saxondale said:

This whole thing is full of contradictions. There seems to be this idea that protesters are the ‘proper fans’ whereas non protesters are plastic/new fans. But the reality is that the Rudkin Out boys are the ones who can’t handle the fact we’re not still challenging for the top 6. 
 

There are many of us who have been supporting the club for years who recognise that - though this is a tough season - the club is in a relatively healthy state.

 

This targeting of Rudkin in particular is ridiculous, given that not one of you know who is responsible for what at the club. 

 

It doesn’t make you a King Power cultist to think that these protests are unnecessary.

 

Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but to try and imply this is about proper / not proper fans is arrogant, stupid and wrong.
 

I know I’m going to get absolute pelters on here, but evidence suggests that more people share my viewpoint - i.e. that wet rag of a chant yesterday.

Genuine questions. Putting aside pushing for honours and the top six and so on, what do you put the decline from established Premier League club to yo-yo club down to? Don’t you aspire for the club to make better decisions? Is it just that you don’t like conflict?

 

It’s interesting to know the mindset. Surely you can see how the phrase “the club is in a relatively healthy state” can seem mindblowing to people watching clubs like Brighton, Bournemouth and Brentford become stable at Premier League level while we’re losing every week and set for relegation again?

[Chelmofox]

3 minutes ago, Saxondale said:

This whole thing is full of contradictions. There seems to be this idea that protesters are the ‘proper fans’ whereas non protesters are plastic/new fans. But the reality is that the Rudkin Out boys are the ones who can’t handle the fact we’re not still challenging for the top 6. 
 

There are many of us who have been supporting the club for years who recognise that - though this is a tough season - the club is in a relatively healthy state.

 

This targeting of Rudkin in particular is ridiculous, given that not one of you know who is responsible for what at the club. 

 

It doesn’t make you a King Power cultist to think that these protests are unnecessary.

 

Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but to try and imply this is about proper / not proper fans is arrogant, stupid and wrong.
 

I know I’m going to get absolute pelters on here, but evidence suggests that more people share my viewpoint - i.e. that wet rag of a chant yesterday.

I respect everyone's right to protest, but i'm also allowed to have an opinion on those protests. A van showing pictures of the DOF as a clown etc is poor and I was deeply disappointed by it. 

 

The season you come up is always hard, and i wish we had seen more of a siege mentality from our fans.

 

I would like change. I want to see us run as a more data orientated club and use the resources we have to utilise technology better. Not convinced this is going to get us there, but if people want to do it this way then so be it.  

[Happy Fox]

7 minutes ago, Saxondale said:

This whole thing is full of contradictions. There seems to be this idea that protesters are the ‘proper fans’ whereas non protesters are plastic/new fans. But the reality is that the Rudkin Out boys are the ones who can’t handle the fact we’re not still challenging for the top 6. 
 

There are many of us who have been supporting the club for years who recognise that - though this is a tough season - the club is in a relatively healthy state.

 

This targeting of Rudkin in particular is ridiculous, given that not one of you know who is responsible for what at the club. 

 

It doesn’t make you a King Power cultist to think that these protests are unnecessary.

 

Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but to try and imply this is about proper / not proper fans is arrogant, stupid and wrong.
 

I know I’m going to get absolute pelters on here, but evidence suggests that more people share my viewpoint - i.e. that wet rag of a chant yesterday.

Wow!!!!  then why couldn’t we sign any players in January? 

[Saxondale]

5 minutes ago, The Fosse Way said:

Genuine questions. Putting aside pushing for honours and the top six and so on, what do you put the decline from established Premier League club to yo-yo club down to? Don’t you aspire for the club to make better decisions? Is it just that you don’t like conflict?

 

It’s interesting to know the mindset. Surely you can see how the phrase “the club is in a relatively healthy state” can seem mindblowing to people watching clubs like Brighton, Bournemouth and Brentford become stable at Premier League level while we’re losing every week and set for relegation again?

You can’t throw the baby out with the bathwater just because we’re having a bad season. It’s insane. We’ve gone from fans wanting managers sacked, to wanting staff sacked, boards sacked and owners sacked. Modern football is ridiculous.

 

Plus, who do these ‘King Power Out’ ***** want the club to be owned by? A Russian gangster? Jim ‘The Rat’ Ratcliffe? Some fat yank who owns a baseball team? An Arab despot?

[Rossiter]

3 minutes ago, Happy Fox said:

Wow!!!!  then why couldn’t we sign any players in January? 

Part of the problem might be the position in the table. If you're a good professional footballer would you want to join LCFC at this point in time? 

[Tielemans63]

16 minutes ago, Saxondale said:

 

There are many of us who have been supporting the club for years who recognise that - though this is a tough season - the club is in a relatively healthy state.

 

I actually totally agree with your point about the whole 'real fans v plastic fans' thing and a fair few of your other points.....but I'm not sure how you can think the above? The club is a mess. 

Edited 16 February by Tielemans63

[Corky]

It isn't that we aren't in the top six, that would be relevant if we were 9th. It is a second relegation in three years and genuine uncertainty going forward.

 

[Saxondale]

6 minutes ago, Happy Fox said:

Wow!!!!  then why couldn’t we sign any players in January? 

The club have literally explained why.

[ozvaldo]

I’ve enquired about a plane with a banner for the next daylight home game. 

[Lako42]

2 minutes ago, Saxondale said:

You can’t throw the baby out with the bathwater just because we’re having a bad season. 

Are you an ostrich? 

[Saxondale]

1 minute ago, Tielemans63 said:

I actually agree with your point about the whole 'real fans v plastic fans' thing.....but I'm not sure how you can think the above? The club is a mess. 

It really isn’t. Out playing squad is weaker than it has been in recent years, but a mess is a wild exaggeration.

[accessory]

15 minutes ago, Stuntman_Mike said:

This sums up exactly what KPFC have created. I'm not sure I've seen a line so fitting for the majority of our support.

But this mentality has been around the club for decades, long before King Power came on the scene.

 

Prior to 2010, successive owners had offered generations of largely lower-league dross. 

 

And there are plenty of folk, even on here, who would rather see us win regularly at Championship level (or even lower) than seek to compete with some of Europe's top sides.

 

The reset is not only needed within the corridors of the stadium and Seagrave.

 

It needs to take root within the minds of those conditioned to believe that ambition and imagination are dirty words.

 

That process will be tough and isn't going to happen overnight.

 

But those who want far more than the drivel served up by Leicester City in recent times must continue to speak out.

 

It's the only way of bringing the change we need.

 

If we fight, we may not win.

 

But if we don't fight. defeat is inevitable.

[sylofox]

We should start a KPFC supporters club. Charge them all £10 to join. Then use the money to protest 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣 😂 

[Freeman's Wharfer]

21 minutes ago, Saxondale said:

This whole thing is full of contradictions. There seems to be this idea that protesters are the ‘proper fans’ whereas non protesters are plastic/new fans. But the reality is that the Rudkin Out boys are the ones who can’t handle the fact we’re not still challenging for the top 6. 
 

There are many of us who have been supporting the club for years who recognise that - though this is a tough season - the club is in a relatively healthy state.

 

This targeting of Rudkin in particular is ridiculous, given that not one of you know who is responsible for what at the club. 

 

It doesn’t make you a King Power cultist to think that these protests are unnecessary.

 

Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but to try and imply this is about proper / not proper fans is arrogant, stupid and wrong.
 

I know I’m going to get absolute pelters on here, but evidence suggests that more people share my viewpoint - i.e. that wet rag of a chant yesterday.

Seeing as we clearly breached PSR (and only escaped punishment via a loophole found by a mega expensive lawyer), were unable to spend in January, are being warned about the legitimacy of a front of shirt sponsor we took on, have had fan outrage about things like a £25 charge for season ticket cards (wildly out of proportion with every other club) and have had 5 managers in 3 seasons… can you please define ‘a relatively healthy state’?

[Mickyblueeyes]

I can respect (though I don’t agree) when someone is against the protest because they don’t feel it is best for the club. May feel another route is required.
 

I absolutely understand and respect when someone tells me that getting personal, insulting etc. is not on. They’re right. I mean I’m at the absolute end with the leadership and fall into that trap and it’s not ok - I can recognise that.

 

The one thing I can’t understand, respect or take seriously is when someone makes it out like what has happened to us is fine. It’s absolutely not. I think these people do need educating and it’s for the rest of to do it. There is no one who has the requisite intelligence and looks at the demise and the short time and thinks, it’s all good. Sorry, it’s a ridiculous take.
 

There is a conversation and pressure that needs to be applied, how we do that should absolutely be debated. Pretending it’s all normal is completely off the table. 

[chapero82]

29 minutes ago, Saxondale said:

This whole thing is full of contradictions. There seems to be this idea that protesters are the ‘proper fans’ whereas non protesters are plastic/new fans. But the reality is that the Rudkin Out boys are the ones who can’t handle the fact we’re not still challenging for the top 6. 
 

There are many of us who have been supporting the club for years who recognise that - though this is a tough season - the club is in a relatively healthy state.

 

This targeting of Rudkin in particular is ridiculous, given that not one of you know who is responsible for what at the club. 

 

It doesn’t make you a King Power cultist to think that these protests are unnecessary.

 

Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but to try and imply this is about proper / not proper fans is arrogant, stupid and wrong.
 

I know I’m going to get absolute pelters on here, but evidence suggests that more people share my viewpoint - i.e. that wet rag of a chant yesterday.

Are you an Ostrich?

[CosbehFox]

16 minutes ago, Saxondale said:

You can’t throw the baby out with the bathwater just because we’re having a bad season. It’s insane. We’ve gone from fans wanting managers sacked, to wanting staff sacked, boards sacked and owners sacked. Modern football is ridiculous.

 

Plus, who do these ‘King Power Out’ ***** want the club to be owned by? A Russian gangster? Jim ‘The Rat’ Ratcliffe? Some fat yank who owns a baseball team? An Arab despot?

You didn’t answer the question. What is the decline down too?
 

 

Edited 16 February by CosbehFox

[Pliskin]

14 minutes ago, Saxondale said:

This whole thing is full of contradictions. There seems to be this idea that protesters are the ‘proper fans’ whereas non protesters are plastic/new fans. But the reality is that the Rudkin Out boys are the ones who can’t handle the fact we’re not still challenging for the top 6. 
 

There are many of us who have been supporting the club for years who recognise that - though this is a tough season - the club is in a relatively healthy state.

 

This targeting of Rudkin in particular is ridiculous, given that not one of you know who is responsible for what at the club. 

 

It doesn’t make you a King Power cultist to think that these protests are unnecessary.

 

Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but to try and imply this is about proper / not proper fans is arrogant, stupid and wrong.
 

I know I’m going to get absolute pelters on here, but evidence suggests that more people share my viewpoint - i.e. that wet rag of a chant yesterday.

I’m all for differing opinions, but this is a wild view of the current situation. It just goes to show there’s a large majority of people who follow this club don’t have an ounce of critical thinking in their DNA. 
 

When you go purely to facts, figures and statistics, the position we find ourselves in, is utterly hideous…… the club is not in a healthy state at all…… 

 

And I think it’s perfectly fair to suggest some are merely passive followers who’ve followed the club all over the nation, for many years but actually know very little about football outside of Leicester City. And then there are others who are invested on a different level, in terms of deeply concerned about every aspect of the club, and how it compares to other clubs in terms of operation. At the moment, it’s absurd that clubs with the stature of Brentford are light years away from us when they’ve had no success, and haven’t had nearly £600m passed through the club on player sales. 
 

It’s perfectly fine to be angry with Top et al, they’ve completely, needlessly, destroyed the club from the inside out, and they need to be held accountable, yet all they want to do is ban fans, forge deals with immoral betting companies, put out gutless statements……

 

I greatly appreciate what KP have done historically to bring us the memories we’ve had recently, but that’s history……… you can accept it, if we’ve simply lost our way because we financially can’t keep up, that that’s not the case, we’ve generated more than enough money as a club to not be in this mess, and it’s the fact the same terrible mistakes are happening time and time again. 

[chapero82]

3 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

I’m all for differing opinions, but this is a wild view of the current situation. It just goes to show there’s a large majority of people who follow this club don’t have an ounce of critical thinking in their DNA. 
 

When you go purely to facts, figures and statistics, the position we find ourselves in, is utterly hideous…… the club is not in a healthy state at all…… 

 

And I think it’s perfectly fair to suggest some are merely passive followers who’ve followed the club all over the nation, for many years but actually know very little about football outside of Leicester City. And then there are others who are invested on a different level, in terms of deeply concerned about every aspect of the club, and how it compares to other clubs in terms of operation. At the moment, it’s absurd that clubs with the stature of Brentford are light years away from us when they’ve had no success, and haven’t had nearly £600m passed through the club on player sales. 
 

It’s perfectly fine to be angry with Top et al, they’ve completely, needlessly, destroyed the club from the inside out, and they need to be held accountable, yet all they want to do is ban fans, forge deals with immoral betting companies, put out gutless statements……

 

I greatly appreciate what KP have done historically to bring us the memories we’ve had recently, but that’s history……… you can accept it, if we’ve simply lost our way because we financially can’t keep up, that that’s not the case, we’ve generated more than enough money as a club to not be in this mess, and it’s the fact the same terrible mistakes are happening time and time again. 

You have put that perfectly 👏 

[The Fosse Way]

14 minutes ago, Saxondale said:

You can’t throw the baby out with the bathwater just because we’re having a bad season. It’s insane. We’ve gone from fans wanting managers sacked, to wanting staff sacked, boards sacked and owners sacked. Modern football is ridiculous.

 

Plus, who do these ‘King Power Out’ ***** want the club to be owned by? A Russian gangster? Jim ‘The Rat’ Ratcliffe? Some fat yank who owns a baseball team? An Arab despot?

Probably someone more like Tony Bloom, Matthew Benham, American owners at Villa and Bournemouth who seem to make sound business decisions. This is the same logic that sees failing managers backed for too long - “because who else would you get?”
 

All the while, there are other clubs managing to thrive because they either have intelligent people in positions or they have excellent succession planning. But again, it feels like you have no aspiration for the club to be as successful as possible and instead value sticking with people out of some kind of sentiment. Out of interest, did you want Vichai to sack Claudio?

[Skid_1884]

35 minutes ago, Saxondale said:

This whole thing is full of contradictions. There seems to be this idea that protesters are the ‘proper fans’ whereas non protesters are plastic/new fans. But the reality is that the Rudkin Out boys are the ones who can’t handle the fact we’re not still challenging for the top 6. 
 

There are many of us who have been supporting the club for years who recognise that - though this is a tough season - the club is in a relatively healthy state.

 

This targeting of Rudkin in particular is ridiculous, given that not one of you know who is responsible for what at the club. 

 

It doesn’t make you a King Power cultist to think that these protests are unnecessary.

 

Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but to try and imply this is about proper / not proper fans is arrogant, stupid and wrong.
 

I know I’m going to get absolute pelters on here, but evidence suggests that more people share my viewpoint - i.e. that wet rag of a chant yesterday.

Didn’t hear any counter chants in support of KPFC though so a ‘wet rag’ of a chant was more than most people stumped up yesterday protesting or not