A Call for Change: A Footballing Reset at Leicester City Football Club

[Paninistickers]

15 minutes ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

I see the Athletic are saying that we are slow at doing deals because Rudkin is spread too thinly. We knew this, and also obviously he lacks competencies, but just your daily reminder of the amateur circus that is our football club. 

The reason I suspect Rudkin is spread so thin is that KP want a minimum of people knowing their shady business. 

 

 

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

4 minutes ago, Gamble92 said:

Feels like the club, or just him, trying to make fans feel sorry for Rudkin. 

I agree. It feels like Rudkin has had a word with a sympathetic journalist, and it might be his way of bashing heads with Top.

 

5 minutes ago, Gamble92 said:

 

They haven't just woke up and realised every other Premier League club has multiple director roles and we have one juggling 2 clubs. This is a conscious decision.

Even worse!

[Claudio Fannieri]

1 hour ago, Finnegan said:

 

For the life of me I cannot get my head around why some people constantly keep moaning about Seagrave. It was and is an objectively good move.

 

It has no impact on FFP / PSR, we can build all of the training facilities we want, we can build ten Seagraves, it's not had an impact on the current financial problems but it IS an extremely valuable asset that the club now own.

 

You can criticise the current ownership for many, many, many, many, many things but on what planet was building world class training facilities (and they are world class training facilities) a bad thing?

 

And absolutely, 100% miss me with that "iT mAdE tHe PlAyErS soFt" horseshit as if they can't possibly put up a fight unless they're training out of Rothley Imps U9s PortaKabin.

 

Couldn’t agree more, Seagrave is a world class facility, the frustration is we aren’t maximising its potential because we have a piss poor scattergun strategy. 
 

Get someone with a sustainable plan and strategy and watch us reap the benefits. Last season showed appoint a top drawer coaching set up and look what can happen. 
 

Fill a Ferrari with horse shit, it’s still an elite car but just fecking stinks vile, I can only compare Seagrave to this analogy as we currently stand. 

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

1 minute ago, Paninistickers said:

The reason I suspect Rudkin is spread so thin is that KP want a minimum of people knowing their shady business. 

 

 

Ohhhh nice… probably right 

[lfu]

34 minutes ago, MattFox said:

Rodgers agent basically sold him to the club 

 

We stupidly took congleton as part of the deal

That, and Rudkin and Rodgers knew each other well from their time as youth coaches, developing a sort of sycophantic friendship where Rudkin put Brendan on a pedestal and was awestruck in their interactions

[CL Fox]

9 hours ago, Babylon said:

And how many CHEAP premier league experienced players have they bought that have done well? Nobody is excusing them, we've once again been rubbish in the market, but as I say. If the manager is given the power to dictate premier league experienced players, you are basically doomed to fail most of the time, if you don't have the budget. We need a total rethink at the start of the chain in how we operate. 

 

Rather than nitpicking at every little thing, I'd rather go back to the root cause of issues. Focus on the bigger stuff, and the smaller stuff should sort itself. 

 

You're working on an assumption her that Premier League experience was really needed for us (which i don't think it was when we had Winks, Coady, Vestergaard, Faes, Vardy, Ndidi, Justin and Ricardo all with plenty of PL appearances). All the clubs I've mentioned have proved it's not needed and smart scouting is needed. Forest less so, but Brentford and Brighton are shining examples.

 

And yes i agree we need a total think as we don't have a football strategy hence how we went from Enzo to Cooper which many people on here have argued for ages - the bloke in charge of that, Rudkin being a much debated topic on this forum by some.

 

So yes it's the bigger stuff but lots of silly daft decisions over time add up, and I'm not ignoring the small stuff which demonstrate the incompetence at all levels as it matters and it means something when looking at the bigger stuff.

 

So whether it's signing players on time or getting good value for money, it all needs scrutinizing. Simply ignoring it doesn't acknowledge the massive hole we've got ourselves in.

 

To put into perspective how bad our transfer business was this summer, here's who went for similar or less money in midfield:

Fabio Carvalho £22m

Matt O Reilly £26m

Sander Berge £20m

Tommy Doyle £5m

Elliott Anderson £15m (although depends who you believe)

 

Small stuff adds up over time for sure, and that's what we're all feeling.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Babylon]

11 minutes ago, CL Fox said:

 

You're working on an assumption her that Premier League experience was really needed for us (which i don't think it was when we had Winks, Coady, Vestergaard, Faes, Vardy, Ndidi, Justin and Ricardo all with plenty of PL appearances). All the clubs I've mentioned have proved it's not needed and smart scouting is needed. Forest less so, but Brentford and Brighton are shining examples.

I’m not working on any assumption. It’s what John Perry reported about what Cooper was requesting, it’s not my idea or what I thought we needed. It’s Cooper’s idea and that’s why we ended up overpaying for players and getting ancient players on long contracts. 
 

I said at the time I disagreed. 

[dooflip]

Mark albrighton stated on a recent interview that the move to seagrave saw a big change in the players attitudes.

They were gifted a multi million pound health spa where they could go and get a massage or a treatment whenever they wanted.

 

just putting that out there. That came directly from one out of very loyal servants.

[jayfox26]

1 hour ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

Couldn’t agree more, Seagrave is a world class facility, the frustration is we aren’t maximising its potential because we have a piss poor scattergun strategy. 
 

Get someone with a sustainable plan and strategy and watch us reap the benefits. Last season showed appoint a top drawer coaching set up and look what can happen. 
 

Fill a Ferrari with horse shit, it’s still an elite car but just fecking stinks vile, I can only compare Seagrave to this analogy as we currently stand. 

Perfect analogy and our players are absolutely stinking out Seagrave right now! 

[jayfox26]

6 minutes ago, dooflip said:

Mark albrighton stated on a recent interview that the move to seagrave saw a big change in the players attitudes.

They were gifted a multi million pound health spa where they could go and get a massage or a treatment whenever they wanted.

 

just putting that out there. That came directly from one out of very loyal servants.

That's why it has to be managed appropriately. The players should earn the full use of luxury facilities by training and performing accordingly. If there's any incling that the players are taking it easy and not putting in the required effort, then luxuries should be taken away from them. Probably seems like treating them like kids, but if adults that are paid millions every year can't conduct themselves accordingly because they are pampered by luxury facilities, then said luxuries should be removed. 

[Lambert09]

33 minutes ago, Babylon said:

I’m not working on any assumption. It’s what John Perry reported about what Cooper was requesting, it’s not my idea or what I thought we needed. It’s Cooper’s idea and that’s why we ended up overpaying for players and getting ancient players on long contracts. 
 

I said at the time I disagreed. 

It doesn’t particularly matter whose opinion it was as the buck still lands on the DOF. They hired him and I’m sure knew his thoughts all along. 

 

If he was taking us in a backwards direction then the club shouldn’t have hired him.  The worse thing to happen to a relegated  club is to be laboured with overpaid, older players with no resale value… particularly one with financial issues.
 

We are stuck with coady, vestergaard, BDR and Ayew for long past their sell-by-dates.  The club allowing for so many senior professionals to end up on the books like this is grossly negligent, particularly in light of our experience with these types of pros in recent times.

 

Especially when you consider we still have Jamie Vardy 38. Ignoring whether they are good at football or not, it’s honking business sense 

Edited 20 January by Lambert09

[niyaminski]

11 hours ago, The Fosse Way said:

Roll up, roll up. Play the great Leicester City blame game: https://www.thefosseway.net/viewpoint/leicester-city-blame-game-january-2025

Steve Cooper: the most vibeless man in existence

 

😂

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

The club have sent emails asking for feedback on the match day experience. You don’t have to think too creatively to compete the free text box’s about what we all think. Bombard them.

[Silva Fox]

2 minutes ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

The club have sent emails asking for feedback on the match day experience. You don’t have to think too creatively to compete the free text box’s about what we all think. Bombard them.

I had fun filling in the "we missed you" one!

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

8 minutes ago, Silva Fox said:

I had fun filling in the "we missed you" one!

I ticked supporter behaviour as something else to feed back on and talked about arguments in the stands because of ……

 

They need to be told from all angles.

[dannythefox]

3 hours ago, The_77 said:

Rudkin cannot make any major decisions without Top’s blessing. A change in DoF will also require Top to make major changes to how he runs the club. 

I honestly couldn’t give a shit he needs to go and yes he probably needs to look at the way he’s running the club or make some better decisions. 

[ElusiveEd]

If I can combine my sadness with my anger it's towards the feeling that Top has a more deep rooted allegiance and faith towards Rudkin than he does towards his fathers legacy and what it would have meant to him to have built upon it. 

 

It seems and feels like it's only us fans that hold dearly what Vichai did for us.

Edited 20 January by ElusiveEd

[Silva Fox]

5 minutes ago, ElusiveEd said:

If I can combine my sadness with my anger it's towards the feeling that Top has a more deep rooted allegiance and faith towards Rudkin than he does towards his fathers legacy and what it would have meant to him to have built upon it. 

 

It seems and feels like it's only us fans that hold dearly what Vichai did for us.

Good point but I suspect that all those close to Top, including Rudkin, have managed to convince him that the vast majority of the Club's woes are purely due to PSR. You only have to look at some of happy clappers' comments on here to see how easily people can be duped by that!

[The Doctor]

5 hours ago, RonnieTodger said:

He was absolutely clueless anyway. I remember him tweeting “from what I’ve heard, don’t be surprised if Leicester go for Benitez”. We appointed Rodgers the following day. 

strongly recommend being blocked by him, makes Twitter about city so much better 

[ElusiveEd]

Other than "Rudkin Out" and "Rudkin's a c**t" there's not many more truer or more pertinent chants right now (If we could get it going) than....

 

We had it all 

And you ****ed it up

We had it all

And you ****ed it up.

 

We literally had everything in the palm of our hands, challenging for top 3 or 4, Champions League, even Europa League would have been massive for us.

 

And those at the top ****ed it right up and look at what happened and where we are now. 

 

Shameless and shameful, the lot of em! 

[inckley fox]

3 hours ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

I see the Athletic are saying that we are slow at doing deals because Rudkin is spread too thinly. We knew this, and also obviously he lacks competencies, but just your daily reminder of the amateur circus that is our football club. 

One of the reasons why I'm sometimes slower to pinpoint Rudkin as the root of all our woes is that I'd heard something very similar to this from one of those 'I know someone who knows someone' sources. The sort of thing you don't feel the need to repeat until someone else says it.

 

The suggestion back then was that he's extremely personable where not everyone else is, solidly professional where others aren't, willing to basically run everything by himself because others won't, and also one of the only people among the higher-ups who has the first clue about football. It struck me that I'd known people like that in my working life, and that they're often the ones who take the flak for others' negligence and incompetence.

 

Of course, he deserves criticism because he's paid a huge amount of money for running the football side of the business, and it's evidently badly-run. But it did get me wondering whether he's the willing fool who's basically keeping things ticking over, and whether the whole thing could come crashing down if we got rid of him.

 

That said, apparently it's already crashing down regardless.

 

So yeah, fire him.

[FOTS]

4 hours ago, Finnegan said:

 

For the life of me I cannot get my head around why some people constantly keep moaning about Seagrave. It was and is an objectively good move.

 

It has no impact on FFP / PSR, we can build all of the training facilities we want, we can build ten Seagraves, it's not had an impact on the current financial problems but it IS an extremely valuable asset that the club now own.

 

You can criticise the current ownership for many, many, many, many, many things but on what planet was building world class training facilities (and they are world class training facilities) a bad thing?

 

And absolutely, 100% miss me with that "iT mAdE tHe PlAyErS soFt" horseshit as if they can't possibly put up a fight unless they're training out of Rothley Imps U9s PortaKabin.

 

Whilst it’s not the biggest issue at the moment, I think Seagrave is indicative of the culture at the club.

 

A luxury facility out in the sticks where they want for absolutely nothing. They never come into the City unless matchday and they all have NG postcodes (most likely at the request of the club). Whilst that stuff probably doesn’t have a direct impact to what happens on the pitch, it’s not difficult to see why there’s a lack of players who’ll run through brick walls - they don’t know what or who they’re representing.

[Lionator]

3 hours ago, Paninistickers said:

The reason I suspect Rudkin is spread so thin is that KP want a minimum of people knowing their shady business. 

 

 

Even at the potential shadiest, KP wouldn’t even be in the top 5 of Prem owners that are terrible terrible people. 

[CosbehFox]

52 minutes ago, Silva Fox said:

Good point but I suspect that all those close to Top, including Rudkin, have managed to convince him that the vast majority of the Club's woes are purely due to PSR. You only have to look at some of happy clappers' comments on here to see how easily people can be duped by that!

The line they’ve given out for ages is that Covid affected the transfer market. Which is utter bollocks considered other transfers at the time 

[lcfcbluearmy]

11 minutes ago, inckley fox said:

One of the reasons why I'm sometimes slower to pinpoint Rudkin as the root of all our woes is that I'd heard something very similar to this from one of those 'I know someone who knows someone' sources. The sort of thing you don't feel the need to repeat until someone else says it.

 

The suggestion back then was that he's extremely personable where not everyone else is, solidly professional where others aren't, willing to basically run everything by himself because others won't, and also one of the only people among the higher-ups who has the first clue about football. It struck me that I'd known people like that in my working life, and that they're often the ones who take the flak for others' negligence and incompetence.

 

Of course, he deserves criticism because he's paid a huge amount of money for running the football side of the business, and it's evidently badly-run. But it did get me wondering whether he's the willing fool who's basically keeping things ticking over, and whether the whole thing could come crashing down if we got rid of him.

 

That said, apparently it's already crashing down regardless.

 

So yeah, fire him.

I think I've said this before when I have heard this sort of thing, if this is what he is good at and the reason he is failing is that he is spread too thin then don't fire him move him aside and get him some competent help. But not admitting that you are spread to thin and can't do your job properly is a huge issue in itself and just increases the problems and stresses until you or the club break. 

 

Whatever the reason it dosen't change the fact that there needs to be change