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33 minutes ago, bovril said:

Britain should stick up for Canada more considering the history of the two countries. Pretty sad but unsurprising to watch our government's reaction to Trump's meltdowns. 

Absolutely.

 

If the current US administration make Starmer choose between them and the rest of the world (and that may essentially end up being the choice, perhaps barring Israel), then he'd better be ready for that choice and to make the right choice.

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Posted
2 hours ago, Daggers said:

I know remarkably little about Canada other than the public transport sucks (Race Across the World), Huuuuuuuuuuume!, moose, and the Mountie version of Action Man. Oh, and they have two languages like Belgium.

I know a Canadian married my absolute car crash of a mate when she really didn't have to so I've always taken from this that they like a challenge

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Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, st albans fox said:

Trumps already agreed to delay the Mexican tariffs on the basis that they will police the border better 


there is a lot of bluster with him but it’s not good for markets. (Or maybe it is for those trading daily ).  Also not good for political stability but then he’s not bothered about that - just wants his peace prize 😄

He did the same shit with us just now. Delayed 30 mins, border security,  fentanyl task force blah blah blah.

 

This guy is doing harm to trade relationships. Now we will start to think long term about increasing trade elsewhere and lean ourselves off a bit from the US.

 

https://globalnews.ca/news/10995552/tariffs-trudeau-trump-call-canada-us/amp/

 

Just wanted to add, policing the border with the usa should always have been stricter and monitored more as best as we can. I mean, it's national fecking security and a no brainer.

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Posted
3 hours ago, Spiritwalker said:

I think we have a trade deficit with the US so I can’t see Trump hitting us with any tariffs.

Fun fact: the UK measures trade flows slightly differently to the US, so according to UK data we have a trade surplus with the US but according to their data we have a deficit. Maybe if we just sit still and stay quiet for the next 4 years they won’t notice. 

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On 30/01/2025 at 14:47, izzymuzzet said:

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There's a famous clip of Nick Clegg from about 2011 justifying the cancellation of some nuclear energy schemes because the benefits wouldn't be seen for "another 10 years". Those nuclear generators would have come online just before Russia invaded Ukraine and gas prices went through the roof. Just because infrastructure takes time doesn't mean we shouldn't build it.

the problem is you're thinking from a health of the nation perspective. justifying cancellations because the benefits won't be seen for 10 years is essentially "it'll be a different government in charge at that point and we won't give them free credit", because it's been half a century at a minimum since we had a government that wasn't completely self serving

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Posted
12 hours ago, st albans fox said:

Also not good for political stability but then he’s not bothered about that - just wants his peace prize 😄

You misheard. He wants his pizza prize.

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Posted
8 hours ago, Jattdogg said:

 

Just wanted to add, policing the border with the usa should always have been stricter and monitored more as best as we can. I mean, it's national fecking security and a no brainer.

Absolutely! You don't want Americans getting into Canada!

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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/03/us/politics/musk-federal-government.html

 

In Elon Musk’s first two weeks in government, his lieutenants gained access to closely held financial and data systems, casting aside career officials who warned that they were defying protocols. They moved swiftly to shutter specific programs — and even an entire agency that had come into Mr. Musk’s cross hairs. They bombarded federal employees with messages suggesting they were lazy and encouraging them to leave their jobs.

Empowered by President Trump, Mr. Musk is waging a largely unchecked war against the federal bureaucracy — one that has already had far-reaching consequences.

Mr. Musk’s aggressive incursions into at least half a dozen government agencies have challenged congressional authority and potentially breached civil service protections.

 

Yep, this administration have definitely learned from their errors last time round.

 

And given that private individuals have access to the sensitive personal data of countless federal employees and schoolchildren using federal aid programs, I'm not sure that's a good thing.

Posted
7 hours ago, leicsmac said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/03/us/politics/musk-federal-government.html

 

In Elon Musk’s first two weeks in government, his lieutenants gained access to closely held financial and data systems, casting aside career officials who warned that they were defying protocols. They moved swiftly to shutter specific programs — and even an entire agency that had come into Mr. Musk’s cross hairs. They bombarded federal employees with messages suggesting they were lazy and encouraging them to leave their jobs.

Empowered by President Trump, Mr. Musk is waging a largely unchecked war against the federal bureaucracy — one that has already had far-reaching consequences.

Mr. Musk’s aggressive incursions into at least half a dozen government agencies have challenged congressional authority and potentially breached civil service protections.

 

Yep, this administration have definitely learned from their errors last time round.

 

And given that private individuals have access to the sensitive personal data of countless federal employees and schoolchildren using federal aid programs, I'm not sure that's a good thing.

I doubt if this omelette can ever be unscrambled.

Posted
46 minutes ago, WigstonWanderer said:

I doubt if this omelette can ever be unscrambled.

I hope that it can, but if it doesn't, it's a matter of necessity that those responsible answer for the consequences.

Posted
11 minutes ago, foxile5 said:

I mean, if she's innocent, truly, then her life is absolutely ruined. There'll be some huge accounting needed for that.

It would be a massive blow for the UK justice system if she was found innocent on appeal, given the degree of profile of the case.

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, leicsmac said:

It would be a massive blow for the UK justice system if she was found innocent on appeal, given the degree of profile of the case.

The mind boggles how has gotten to this. 

 

Expert evidence used to convict them overturned by that very expert. 

 

Whichever way you slice it the justice system isn't looking brilliant right now.

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I’m not going to pretend to understand the medical evidence, but I find it hard to see past the statistical evidence. Correlation doesn’t mean causation of course, but it’s incredibly damming with how the death rate changed when she was moved and eventually arrested.
 

Is that enough to lock someone away and throw away the key? Probably not. But it was enough in conjunction with the medical evidence for the jury, and nobody will know the case as well as them with the amount of time the trial took. 
 

I would say it’s good argument against the death penalty though. It seems there is enough doubt to at least never be 100% sure, even if it was able to be decided beyond reasonable doubt that she is guilty. 

Posted
3 hours ago, boots60 said:

Lucy Letby

 

Makes you wonder

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgl5yyg1x6o

If she wasn't blond and blue eyes and so so sweet looking would there be so much effort to clear her!. That's probably how she got away with it for so long. It's incredibly difficult for people to identify someone like this as a killer and she probably and still is thriving on this!. Too many coincidences and too many babies dying in a short space of time and then suddenly stopped after she was arrested!. Nobody will never know the full truth unless she confesses.

Posted
3 minutes ago, foxy boxing said:

If she wasn't blond and blue eyes and so so sweet looking would there be so much effort to clear her!. 

What efforts? I can't remember any kind of protests or concerted campaigns to clear her name. 

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, foxy boxing said:

If she wasn't blond and blue eyes and so so sweet looking would there be so much effort to clear her!. That's probably how she got away with it for so long. It's incredibly difficult for people to identify someone like this as a killer and she probably and still is thriving on this!. Too many coincidences and too many babies dying in a short space of time and then suddenly stopped after she was arrested!. Nobody will never know the full truth unless she confesses.

Idiotic post.

 

So if she was an unappealing dogface she'd definitely be guilty?

 

Are you Trump?

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Really sad to read about the boy who was stabbed at a catholic school yesterday - no child should go to school in the morning and not return. 
 

Be interesting to see how the truth of what happened comes out - lots of stuff online to approach with caution but direct quotes from numerous parents on how the prior week the perpetrator had been suspended for carrying a knife and on his first day back committed murder. If this is the case that is sheer negligence from the school and head.

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Posted
2 hours ago, reporterpenguin said:

I’m not going to pretend to understand the medical evidence, but I find it hard to see past the statistical evidence. Correlation doesn’t mean causation of course, but it’s incredibly damming with how the death rate changed when she was moved and eventually arrested.
 

Is that enough to lock someone away and throw away the key? Probably not. But it was enough in conjunction with the medical evidence for the jury, and nobody will know the case as well as them with the amount of time the trial took. 
 

I would say it’s good argument against the death penalty though. It seems there is enough doubt to at least never be 100% sure, even if it was able to be decided beyond reasonable doubt that she is guilty. 

Plus all the stuff in her diary.

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Posted
5 hours ago, foxile5 said:

I mean, if she's innocent, truly, then her life is absolutely ruined. There'll be some huge accounting needed for that.

Must be hard for the families of those poor babies who died to hear all this but guess she has the right to defend herself and appeal against the conviction. 

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