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38 minutes ago, Brizzle Fox said:

MAGA gonna MAGA

 

Can't believe Trump wore a blue rather than black suit. So disrespectful...

 

 

Someone is in a solid gold Dryrobe too, outrageous. 

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Sampson

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50 minutes ago, Brizzle Fox said:

MAGA gonna MAGA

 

Can't believe Trump wore a blue rather than black suit. So disrespectful...

 

 

Nothing but pure vice signalling.

Md9

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With no tv cameras to hear what they are saying trump is going to back to Vance and telling everyone zelensky said he started the war and he is going to burn the whole world down if we don’t let Russia win or something stupid Vance will go on a rant after he puts his eyeliner on about how he didn’t say thank you to trump for speaking to him and now he should pay back 600000 billion dollars and to never speak bad about Russia again. Or some sh** like that 

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The Doctor

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On 19/04/2025 at 21:46, ClaphamFox said:

Apologies for the late response - mad weekend looking after the kids.

 

Your description of the Dhejne report is not accurate. This is a direct quote from the report

 

“In this study, male-to-female individuals had a higher risk for criminal convictions compared to female controls but not compared to male controls. This suggests that the sex reassignment procedure neither increased nor decreased the risk for criminal offending in male-to-females.”


As is this:

”Male-to-females…retained a male pattern regarding criminality. The same was true for violent crime.”

 

This is unambiguous. The report does not state anywhere that M-toF patterns of criminality were different from 1989-2003 than in 1973-1988. Some activists have claimed it does, but there is no data in the report to back the claim up. Dhejne herself clarified this point in a 2017 interview when she said:

 

“Regarding criminality there are only results from either both trans women and trans men and displayed for the whole period 1973-2003 and for the periods of 1973-1988 and the 1989-2003. If one is only interested in transwomen data is only available for the whole period.” (My italics).

 

So there aren’t any specific findings for M-to-F patterns of criminality for the 1989-2003 period to support your theory about “changing attitudes to LGBT people”.

 

As for other evidence, a Freedom of Information request in 2019 resulted in the UK Ministry of Justice releasing figures that compared sex offence convictions among male prisoners, female prisoners and male-born prisoners identifying as transgender. It showed that trans women in custody had sexual offence conviction rates far exceeding those of both male and female prisoners - reflecting a male pattern of offending within the M-to-F transgender cohort.

 

There are obviously limitations to the data available and that more research is needed. But there is no evidence that transgender women assume the criminal behaviour of biological women, and the limited data we do have suggests they retain male patterns of criminality. At the very least there is currently no basis to believe that a man who says he identifies as a woman can be safely assumed to be less of a risk than any other man.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Actually my assessment of the Dhejne report is accurate as it is literally quoting the lead author: https://www.transadvocate.com/fact-check-study-shows-transition-makes-trans-people-suicidal_n_15483.htm

 

"The individual in the image who is making claims about trans criminality, specifically rape likelihood, is misrepresenting the study findings. The study as a whole covers the period between 1973 and 2003. If one divides the cohort into two groups, 1973 to 1988 and 1989 to 2003, one observes that for the latter group (1989 – 2003), differences in mortality, suicide attempts, and crime disappear. This means that for the 1989 to 2003 group, we did not find a male pattern of criminality"

 

 

I've already touched on that sexual offences stat, but to reiterate, it is completely misleading. a sexual offence is anything under the sex offences act 2003, which yes includes rape and sexual assault, but also contains solicitation. trans women are drastically overrepresented in sex work and there's a perfectly reasonable conclusion to draw that that leads to overrepresentation in solicitation charges. There is no data I'm aware of that further breaks down those sexual offences convictions into the type of crime convicted for

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urban.spaceman

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3 hours ago, Brizzle Fox said:

MAGA gonna MAGA

 

Can't believe Trump wore a blue rather than black suit. So disrespectful...

 

 

Yet, I’ve never once seen ANY Pope wear appropriate attire, like a suit, or handcuffs. 

 

 #TwoTierJustice

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leicsmac

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly5xx017vko

 

"I think some of these judges think they are beyond and above the law and they are not...

...And if you are destroying evidence, if you are obstructing justice, when you have victims sitting in a courtroom of domestic violence, and you're escorting a criminal defendant out a back door, it will not be tolerated." - Pam Bondi, on the direct instruction of Donald Trump, 2025

 

"“I expect the German legal profession to understand that the nation is not here for them but they are here for the nation.. From now on, I shall intervene in these cases and remove from office those judges who evidently do not understand the demand of the hour.” - Adolf Hitler, 1942

 

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Sampson

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13 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly5xx017vko

 

"I think some of these judges think they are beyond and above the law and they are not...

...And if you are destroying evidence, if you are obstructing justice, when you have victims sitting in a courtroom of domestic violence, and you're escorting a criminal defendant out a back door, it will not be tolerated." - Pam Bondi, on the direct instruction of Donald Trump, 2025

 

"“I expect the German legal profession to understand that the nation is not here for them but they are here for the nation.. From now on, I shall intervene in these cases and remove from office those judges who evidently do not understand the demand of the hour.” - Adolf Hitler, 1942

 

 

 

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blabyboy

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5 hours ago, leicsmac said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly5xx017vko

 

"I think some of these judges think they are beyond and above the law and they are not...

...And if you are destroying evidence, if you are obstructing justice, when you have victims sitting in a courtroom of domestic violence, and you're escorting a criminal defendant out a back door, it will not be tolerated." - Pam Bondi, on the direct instruction of Donald Trump, 2025

 

"“I expect the German legal profession to understand that the nation is not here for them but they are here for the nation.. From now on, I shall intervene in these cases and remove from office those judges who evidently do not understand the demand of the hour.” - Adolf Hitler, 1942

 

Reading the article, the judge sure looks to have overstepped the law. Strip away the emotion of Dem Vs Rep and just apply the law leaves her with a lot of explaining to do 

fox_up_north

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Contrary to some, I don't think Trump himself is that enamoured with far right fascist ideals as some of those he's surrounded by. He is a complete buffoon but I suspect a deadly cocktail of stupidity, gullibility, bruised ego over 2020 and a general nastiness have led him to seek support from the worst kind of people, as others abandoned him. 

leicsmac

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7 hours ago, blabyboy said:

Reading the article, the judge sure looks to have overstepped the law. Strip away the emotion of Dem Vs Rep and just apply the law leaves her with a lot of explaining to do 

And were this an isolated incident of the executive stepping in on judicial "overreach", or indeed not a sign of possible things to come, then this argument would likely be more palatable.

 

But it is not.

 

Does anyone think that this administration, having crossed this particular line, will stop at judges that are failing to apply the law? Or just the law as this administration itself wants it to be?

 

I see no reason whatsoever for this incident, or its part in an increasing trend of executive overreach, should in any way be downplayed. History is rather clear on that.

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leicsmac

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1 hour ago, fox_up_north said:

Contrary to some, I don't think Trump himself is that enamoured with far right fascist ideals as some of those he's surrounded by. He is a complete buffoon but I suspect a deadly cocktail of stupidity, gullibility, bruised ego over 2020 and a general nastiness have led him to seek support from the worst kind of people, as others abandoned him. 

I don't think so either - but I think that, in terms of results and harm inflicted, the difference between him believing the ideas and him simply facilitating them is pretty much null.

blabyboy

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1 hour ago, leicsmac said:

And were this an isolated incident of the executive stepping in on judicial "overreach", or indeed not a sign of possible things to come, then this argument would likely be more palatable.

 

But it is not.

 

Does anyone think that this administration, having crossed this particular line, will stop at judges that are failing to apply the law? Or just the law as this administration itself wants it to be?

 

I see no reason whatsoever for this incident, or its part in an increasing trend of executive overreach, should in any way be downplayed. History is rather clear on that.

The perp had already been deported in 2013, remind who was the US President in power at that time?

 

The perp was up on domestic battery charges and a warrant issued for arrest. 

 

The judge arbitrarily decided to let him out of a side door whilst distracting several officers that were trying to enforce a warrant for arrest.

 

Every case in law is judged on the merits of it's own particulars. Laws themselves are crafted without emotion.

 

Stripping away the political inferences in the article and taking just the facts as expressed in that article, do you think the judge should have been arrested for aiding the escape of a wanted man?

Sampson

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And there we go. Farage 2029 is fully in motion now. Badenoch is Franz von Papen-ing it at a time Starmer is Neville Chamberlain-ing it.

 

 

bovril

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I remember when it was claimed that Brexit would 'kill the far right' in this country. Not like in Europe where they're all just itching to vote for fascists. 

Lionator

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42 minutes ago, bovril said:

I remember when it was claimed that Brexit would 'kill the far right' in this country. Not like in Europe where they're all just itching to vote for fascists. 

The right have been very effective at selling the idea that Brexit wasn’t radical enough. We need to remove the ECHR, then things will be better…surely…finally…right?

Sampson

Sampson

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29 minutes ago, Lionator said:

The right have been very effective at selling the idea that Brexit wasn’t radical enough. We need to remove the ECHR, then things will be better…surely…finally…right?

Yep it’s the same with Trump - destroying one institution is not enough. They’ll always be one more who is to blame on destroying the country that they need to go after - it’s the tried and tested route to authoritarianism and how populism crosses the line to fascism. These right wing populists feed on negativity and making out the country is completely broken and only they can fix it by taking on whatever the latest thing is that’s causing all the problems with the country. Therefore they always need one more thing to blame all the woes of the country on. Farage never has a single good thing to say about the country, he is ferociously anti-patriotic, but that’s also kind of the point.
 

The fact most people (including Boris Johnson) never really understood what the EU actually was helped to. They can tie the ECHR together with it  even though they are completely different things because they’re both European institutions. It helps them to make out Brexit wasn’t radical enough even though England, Scotland and Wales already left everything in the EU so you can’t really get a harder or more radical Brexit other than moving the Customs Union from the Irish Sea to the Irish border and therefore almost certainly starting the process of Northern Ireland ceding from the UK and creating a united Ireland. 

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bovril

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25 minutes ago, Lionator said:

The right have been very effective at selling the idea that Brexit wasn’t radical enough. We need to remove the ECHR, then things will be better…surely…finally…right?

Absolutely, but Brexit was also sold to us at the time by some people as getting away from Europe's increasing fascist tendencies, and lots of sensible, centre right types told us after 2016 that leaving the EU would neutralize the far right and make Farage irrelevant. It was predictable however that when things got worse not better people would claim as you say that real brexit had never been tried 

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Trav Le Bleu

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28 minutes ago, Lionator said:

The right have been very effective at selling the idea that Brexit wasn’t radical enough. We need to remove the ECHR, then things will be better…surely…finally…right?

With it's stupid woke ideals like "free speech" and "humanitarianism"!

leicsmac

leicsmac

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2 hours ago, blabyboy said:

The perp had already been deported in 2013, remind who was the US President in power at that time?

 

The perp was up on domestic battery charges and a warrant issued for arrest. 

 

The judge arbitrarily decided to let him out of a side door whilst distracting several officers that were trying to enforce a warrant for arrest.

 

Every case in law is judged on the merits of it's own particulars. Laws themselves are crafted without emotion.

 

Stripping away the political inferences in the article and taking just the facts as expressed in that article, do you think the judge should have been arrested for aiding the escape of a wanted man?

I think that if the facts of the case are as they are, the judge did in all likelihood commit a crime,

 

At the same time, we cannot strip away the political element involved here as this is far from the only judicial representative targeted by this administration and this case, along with all others, should be examined in that context. The idea that every case is judged on its own merit is idealistically true, but I think it's naive to the point of being fanciful that it is really happening in the US right now - the political interference and pressure is patently obvious, and cannot and should not be dismissed out of hand.

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FoxesDeb

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It's in the Daily Mail so I'm going to assume it's both A bollocks and B shit stirring nonsense to whip up the Reform voting racists into a frenzy, which seems to be their go to 

 

Other than that I have no idea as I'm refusing to open the link

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Parafox

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1 hour ago, FoxesDeb said:

It's in the Daily Mail so I'm going to assume it's both A bollocks and B shit stirring nonsense to whip up the Reform voting racists into a frenzy, which seems to be their go to 

 

Other than that I have no idea as I'm refusing to open the link

Any "link" that requires a login/password before you can access an unknown (to you) site is almost certainly phishing.

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WigstonWanderer

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13 hours ago, fox_up_north said:

Contrary to some, I don't think Trump himself is that enamoured with far right fascist ideals as some of those he's surrounded by. He is a complete buffoon but I suspect a deadly cocktail of stupidity, gullibility, bruised ego over 2020 and a general nastiness have led him to seek support from the worst kind of people, as others abandoned him. 

Don’t forget a total lack of empathy, integrity and veracity.

 

Edit: Oops, forgot greed.

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