Will Alves - loaned to Cardiff City

[Noahfence]

I think Cardiff are going down. Very very poor side 

[Blue-fox]

10 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Get a grip man! 

 

Look at his returns. FB is the better player of the two and he hasn’t been given any game time. Criminal that is

[coolhandfox]

Just now, Blue-fox said:

Look at his returns.

Not sure that makes him a poor player.

 

Just now, Blue-fox said:

FB is the better player of the two and he hasn’t been given any game time. Criminal that is

Not sure what that has to do with you original point.

 

I like them both, far to early in their careers to say who's better at this point at 19 and 20.

[Blue-fox]

11 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Not sure that makes him a poor player.

 

Not sure what that has to do with you original point.

 

I like them both, far too early in their careers to say who's better at this point at 19 and 20.

I hope I’m wrong but let’s see. 

[Ryy]

 

[notnow john]

1 hour ago, jammie82uk said:

Thanks for the laugh, He’s a very decent player and still young I would be very surprised if he’s not playing premier league football next season 

Get prepared for a shock!

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

9 hours ago, Ryy said:

 

A reason to be positive as presumably he’ll be part of our squad next season and getting minutes. But given we have just played a 15 year old in an area Alves could play (whether you believe the rumours the club hierarchy ordered RvN to do it to appease fans or not) should he not be part of the squad this season? 

[Bilo]

1 minute ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

A reason to be positive as presumably he’ll be part of our squad next season and getting minutes. But given we have just played a 15 year old in an area Alves could play (whether you believe the rumours the club hierarchy ordered RvN to do it to appease fans or not) should he not be part of the squad this season? 

There's no point whatsoever in recalling him. We're down so the games are meaningless and will further say morale, while Cardiff could still survive. Possibly at the expense of Derby. 

[Pliskin]

12 minutes ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

A reason to be positive as presumably he’ll be part of our squad next season and getting minutes. But given we have just played a 15 year old in an area Alves could play (whether you believe the rumours the club hierarchy ordered RvN to do it to appease fans or not) should he not be part of the squad this season? 

Monga won’t be here next season, so Alves will play.

[lcfc sheff]

9 hours ago, Ryy said:

 

Like watching a Leicester counter attacking goal of old that!! Just what I want to see 

[st albans fox]

50 minutes ago, Bilo said:

There's no point whatsoever in recalling him. We're down so the games are meaningless and will further say morale, while Cardiff could still survive. Possibly at the expense of Derby. 

And he’ll be playing against blokes who he’ll be up against next season 

[Noahfence]

10 hours ago, Ryy said:

 

He instantly changed the game for Cardiff. I didn’t watch the first half but their fans on twitter were saying it was dreadful. 
 

Relentless running at his man and always looking to go forward. 
 

Considering he’s never had a loan and coming back from a dreadful injury he’s taken to the championship very well. 

[CosbehFox]

If I remember right, there’s a chance Alves could play post Cardiff’s season finishing 

[LCFCJohn]

22 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

If I remember right, there’s a chance Alves could play post Cardiff’s season finishing 

Good point. Same for Nelson presumably?

 

We play Southampton on the 3rd May which is the final day of the Championship. We then have;

 

Forest (a)

Ipswich (h)

Bournmouth (a)

 

Definitely worth getting them and continuing with Monga and perhaps give Evans a run and drop those we want out to make a point as well as show the youngsters that next season is theirs!

[moore_94]

32 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

If I remember right, there’s a chance Alves could play post Cardiff’s season finishing 

I think the loan contracts tend to run until the end of May so not sure he would be able to

 

Can’t remember it happening anytime recently either

[Finnegan]

11 hours ago, coolhandfox said:

far to early in their careers to say who's better at this point

 

Not really, it's BEK by miles.

 

Much, much better footballing brain.

 

[st albans fox]

22 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

I think the loan contracts tend to run until the end of May so not sure he would be able to

 

Can’t remember it happening anytime recently either

Pretty sure it’s end June for contracts. 

as you say, don’t recall ever seeing it happen before - recall options are usually time limited aswell. 
 

I think they could play U21 though. 

[suffolk fox]

4 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Pretty sure it’s end June for contracts. 

as you say, don’t recall ever seeing it happen before - recall options are usually time limited aswell. 
 

I think they could play U21 though. 

I always thought it was June 30th

[honeybradger]

1 hour ago, Noahfence said:

He instantly changed the game for Cardiff. I didn’t watch the first half but their fans on twitter were saying it was dreadful. 
 

Relentless running at his man and always looking to go forward. 
 

Considering he’s never had a loan and coming back from a dreadful injury he’s taken to the championship very well. 

He's playing well against championship opposition despite looking raw, which is good to see as it means that there is still room for improvement.

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

2 hours ago, Bilo said:

There's no point whatsoever in recalling him. We're down so the games are meaningless and will further say morale, while Cardiff could still survive. Possibly at the expense of Derby. 

I didn’t say we should recall him. Just questioning with the balance and quality in the squad why he wasn’t given a go.

[CosbehFox]

36 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

I think the loan contracts tend to run until the end of May so not sure he would be able to

 

Can’t remember it happening anytime recently either

 

12 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Pretty sure it’s end June for contracts. 

as you say, don’t recall ever seeing it happen before - recall options are usually time limited aswell. 
 

I think they could play U21 though. 

Looking deeper. Barnes finished his season with MK Dons at end of April and played in the final under 21s game of the season 

[brookfox]

If we go into next season with him, Stephy, Fatawu, McAteer and even BDCR as our wing options I’d be happy.

[Noahfence]

8 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

He's playing well against championship opposition despite looking raw, which is good to see as it means that there is still room for improvement.

I have no idea what his ceiling is but to be looking this confident after basically zero professional minutes and a bad injury it’s impressive 

[Bilo]

33 minutes ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

I didn’t say we should recall him. Just questioning with the balance and quality in the squad why he wasn’t given a go.

Because Steve Cooper couldn't spot young talent if it walked up to him and tickled his scrotum? 

[LCFCJohn]

For those who have watched more of the un21’s (as he has been playing in wide positions for Cardiff), what is his potential down the middle, as a number 10? Or would it be putting him out of positon?

 

Just thinking to next season, we have:

Fatawu (rw)

Evans (rw)

Mavididi (lw)

Monga (lw)? If he stays of course which might be unlikely.

 

Plus you have BDR and Ayew who shifting one might be realistic but shifting both not so much. And McAteer as well.
 

Could you have….

 

Mavididi - Alves - Fatawu?

 

Otherwise, and if Monga leaves, Alves and Mavididi become the options on the left. With Fatawu and hopefully Evans on the right.

 

It does feel are currently stocked in the wide positions. As I say, if Monga goes and if any or a combination of McAteer, Ayew and BDR move on, this will decrease.

 

But we aren’t stocked in the central position other than Bilal if he stays. So I wonder whether Alves would make that position his own.

 

It also depends on the manager and whether they play with a number 10 I guess, and whether they give the youngsters players a chance as well.