DezFox Posted 14 June 2025 Posted 14 June 2025 1 hour ago, Guest said: I don't necessarily disagree but of the permanent appointments made under the current ownership only Ranieri didn't have recent coaching experience in the UK, so it seems reasonable to conclude that it's something they value whether we agree with that or not Yeah I see your comment is from the perspective of king power and if so you’re correct they do love experience. Claudio did aswell actually at Chelsea. I don’t think they should though 1
Guppys Love Child Posted 14 June 2025 Posted 14 June 2025 6 hours ago, volpeazzurro said: Because Rodgers inherited an excellent squad of players, demolished it whilst spending £250m in the process and with the exception of Fofana, none of his and Congerton's choices made the grade. He changed recruitment, medical, coaching and various other staff behind the scenes and is largely responsible for the position we now find ourselves in. Admittedly, some of this could have been mitigated had we not got the useless Top in charge of the club. Spot on. Totally agree with your points, plus the fact he's also an lying, egotistical, backstabbing, narcissistic, selfish little troll, and therefore the reason why he will always be my most hated LCFC manager...Period. Peter Taylor is Mother Teresa re-incarnate compared to him for what he did to our club. 3 1
volpeazzurro Posted 14 June 2025 Posted 14 June 2025 58 minutes ago, Guppys Love Child said: Spot on. Totally agree with your points, plus the fact he's also an lying, egotistical, backstabbing, narcissistic, selfish little troll, and therefore the reason why he will always be my most hated LCFC manager...Period. Peter Taylor is Mother Teresa re-incarnate compared to him for what he did to our club. I agree entirely, couldn't fit it all in and was afraid of getting carted off if I had a complete melt down 🤣. For me he makes Taylor just look like an incompetent innocent.
Guppys Love Child Posted 14 June 2025 Posted 14 June 2025 13 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said: I agree entirely, couldn't fit it all in and was afraid of getting carted off if I had a complete melt down 🤣. For me he makes Taylor just look like an incompetent innocent. I'm glad it's not just me then. 1
winteriscoming Posted 14 June 2025 Posted 14 June 2025 So if we can get someone from another club after the 1st July because of the financial situation who would we want? Rohl obviously, Wellens? Anyone else.
deep blue Posted 14 June 2025 Posted 14 June 2025 53 minutes ago, Guppys Love Child said: I'm glad it's not just me then. I'm with you too. Agree completely.
Claudio Fannieri Posted 14 June 2025 Posted 14 June 2025 5 minutes ago, winteriscoming said: So if we can get someone from another club after the 1st July because of the financial situation who would we want? Rohl obviously, Wellens? Anyone else. Wellens for me 2
Wortho Posted 14 June 2025 Posted 14 June 2025 7 minutes ago, winteriscoming said: So if we can get someone from another club after the 1st July because of the financial situation who would we want? Rohl obviously, Wellens? Anyone else. I honestly wouldn’t be opposed to Wellens. I think he would bring a lot of these players down a peg or two. 1
winteriscoming Posted 14 June 2025 Posted 14 June 2025 7 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said: Wellens for me Yes he’s grown on me. Seems to have Pearson vibes which is what we need now. 2
Product of 84 Posted 14 June 2025 Posted 14 June 2025 1 minute ago, winteriscoming said: Yes he’s grown on me. Seems to have Pearson vibes which is what we need now. I'd rather have Mark Robins than Wellens
Wortho Posted 14 June 2025 Posted 14 June 2025 5 minutes ago, winteriscoming said: Yes he’s grown on me. Seems to have Pearson vibes which is what we need now. He got Leyton Orient in the play off final which they lost.
cropstonfox Posted 14 June 2025 Posted 14 June 2025 21 minutes ago, Product of 84 said: I'd rather have Mark Robins than Wellens Agreed,he built and maintained a half decent Cov with no money. 1
winteriscoming Posted 14 June 2025 Posted 14 June 2025 It’s unlikely but someone who is at another club who I’d love us to get is Fabio Grosso. Won Serie B with Sassuolo. Also Filippo Inzaghi got Pisa promoted from Serie B. Although I’m not so sure on someone who scored a lot of goals in his playing career after what’s happened with Ruud.
Lambert09 Posted 14 June 2025 Posted 14 June 2025 34 minutes ago, cropstonfox said: Agreed,he built and maintained a half decent Cov with no money. Yeah but he’s at stoke now, we won’t be paying for him 1
Claudio Fannieri Posted 15 June 2025 Posted 15 June 2025 8 hours ago, Wortho said: He got Leyton Orient in the play off final which they lost. And your point is? You mean a Leyton Orient side that should be nowhere near the play offs in that division after also getting them promoted from league 2.
Wortho Posted 15 June 2025 Posted 15 June 2025 1 hour ago, Claudio Fannieri said: And your point is? You mean a Leyton Orient side that should be nowhere near the play offs in that division after also getting them promoted from league 2. Yes that’s the point I meant 👍 1
teblin Posted 15 June 2025 Posted 15 June 2025 Would wellens even be mentioned if he didn’t play for us? 4
Popular Post Adster Posted 15 June 2025 Popular Post Posted 15 June 2025 (edited) 2 minutes ago, teblin said: Would wellens even be mentioned if he didn’t play for us? Of course he wouldn't. Fan bias once more. This example is why fans in the boardroom would be a terrible idea. Edited 15 June 2025 by Adster 5
Claudio Fannieri Posted 15 June 2025 Posted 15 June 2025 13 minutes ago, Wortho said: Yes that’s the point I meant 👍 Fair enough, I thought it was more a point of they lost therefore not worthy of consideration.
teblin Posted 15 June 2025 Posted 15 June 2025 5 minutes ago, Adster said: Of course he wouldn't. Fan bias once more. This example is why fans in the boardroom would be a terrible idea. In about march time I watched them play burton. They may have had an off night, but it seemed slow and laboured in style.
Claudio Fannieri Posted 15 June 2025 Posted 15 June 2025 (edited) 20 minutes ago, teblin said: Would wellens even be mentioned if he didn’t play for us? Why not? He is a manager on the up and doing a very good job just like Muslic was at Plymouth or Rohl at Sheffield Wednesday. He is over achieving at a club like Leyton Orient and traditionally these type of appointments have worked well at our club such as Brian Little, Martin O’Neill and Nigel Pearson, managers who had earned there stripes managing and coaching in the football league. What I would say is the suggestions of managers such as Dyche etc are the stale and lazy choices that more align with our current board because they have managed in the premier league at some point or won promotion a decade ago. Muslic never played for us, Rohl never played for us but would have been progressive choices as would Wellens, but because he has played for us the idea should be dismissed because it’s an emotional choice, let me remind you most fans fecking moaned about him when he played here. He is a bloody good manager who is attainable and because he played here would probably crawl over broken glass to take the job, also because he has played here and been relatively successful he understands the club and what can be achieved, he played for Pearson so no doubt will have learned more than a little bit about what is needed to get this club back on track. So sorry for suggesting a former player who is doing a bloody unbelievable job with limited resources and has his club punching above their weight, rather than a stale former premier league manager who is on a downward trajectory. Edited 15 June 2025 by Claudio Fannieri 2 1
teblin Posted 15 June 2025 Posted 15 June 2025 13 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said: Why not? He is a manager on the up and doing a very good job just like Muslic was at Plymouth or Rohl at Sheffield Wednesday. He is over achieving at a club like Leyton Orient and traditionally these type of appointments have worked well at our club such as Brian Little, Martin O’Neill and Nigel Pearson, managers who had earned there stripes managing and coaching in the football league. What I would say is the suggestions of managers such as Dyche etc are the stale and lazy choices that more align with our current board because they have managed in the premier league at some point or won promotion a decade ago. Muslic never played for us, Rohl never played for us but would have been progressive choices as would Wellens, but because he has played for us the idea should be dismissed because it’s an emotional choice, let me remind you most fans fecking moaned about him when he played here. He is a bloody good manager who is attainable and because he played here would probably crawl over broken glass to take the job, also because he has played here and been relatively successful he understands the club and what can be achieved, he played for Pearson so no doubt will have learned more than a little bit about what is needed to get this club back on track. So sorry for suggesting a former player who is doing a bloody unbelievable job with limited resources and has his club punching above their weight, rather than a stale former premier league manager who is on a downward trajectory. I agree we need to look away from the normal names. Wellens has had a bit of a varied management career though.
ClaphamFox Posted 15 June 2025 Posted 15 June 2025 24 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said: Why not? He is a manager on the up and doing a very good job just like Muslic was at Plymouth or Rohl at Sheffield Wednesday. He is over achieving at a club like Leyton Orient and traditionally these type of appointments have worked well at our club such as Brian Little, Martin O’Neill and Nigel Pearson, managers who had earned there stripes managing and coaching in the football league. What I would say is the suggestions of managers such as Dyche etc are the stale and lazy choices that more align with our current board because they have managed in the premier league at some point or won promotion a decade ago. Muslic never played for us, Rohl never played for us but would have been progressive choices as would Wellens, but because he has played for us the idea should be dismissed because it’s an emotional choice, let me remind you most fans fecking moaned about him when he played here. He is a bloody good manager who is attainable and because he played here would probably crawl over broken glass to take the job, also because he has played here and been relatively successful he understands the club and what can be achieved, he played for Pearson so no doubt will have learned more than a little bit about what is needed to get this club back on track. So sorry for suggesting a former player who is doing a bloody unbelievable job with limited resources and has his club punching above their weight, rather than a stale former premier league manager who is on a downward trajectory. A little bit passive aggressive 😁 1
Claudio Fannieri Posted 15 June 2025 Posted 15 June 2025 He has in his early days but has also worked at some basket case clubs including Salford where he was doing ok but got thrown under a bus. He seems very much like a Pearson type manager, a builder, a manager for a project, which is where we are. However our clueless board will continue to look for short term, stale solutions as they seem to have ditched any remnants of a long term strategy or plan, instead only focusing on promotion or surviving, our whole ethos now appears to be focused on hanging onto the coat tails of the premier league at all costs and slowly but surely this is killing any chance of us becoming another Brentford or Brighton and instead becoming Watford, Stoke, WBA and Norwich.
LCFCJohn Posted 15 June 2025 Posted 15 June 2025 27 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said: Why not? He is a manager on the up and doing a very good job just like Muslic was at Plymouth or Rohl at Sheffield Wednesday. He is over achieving at a club like Leyton Orient and traditionally these type of appointments have worked well at our club such as Brian Little, Martin O’Neill and Nigel Pearson, managers who had earned there stripes managing and coaching in the football league. What I would say is the suggestions of managers such as Dyche etc are the stale and lazy choices that more align with our current board because they have managed in the premier league at some point or won promotion a decade ago. Muslic never played for us, Rohl never played for us but would have been progressive choices as would Wellens, but because he has played for us the idea should be dismissed because it’s an emotional choice, let me remind you most fans fecking moaned about him when he played here. He is a bloody good manager who is attainable and because he played here would probably crawl over broken glass to take the job, also because he has played here and been relatively successful he understands the club and what can be achieved, he played for Pearson so no doubt will have learned more than a little bit about what is needed to get this club back on track. So sorry for suggesting a former player who is doing a bloody unbelievable job with limited resources and has his club punching above their weight, rather than a stale former premier league manager who is on a downward trajectory. I agree with all you say. I actually think he is getting dismissed by many purely because he was a player here and seen as not a top player (due to the years that followed). That and he has a boring British name and is from the north of England. If a young manager had done the same job as he has at Orient, had no connection with us and had a European name, say if it was Ricardo Velens, people would be all over it! 2
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