Next Manager

[whoareyaaa]

21 minutes ago, deep blue said:

On the contrary, Ruud took over a team who were 16th.  Survival was far from easy with our squad, but it was also far from impossible with a decent manager.

I think the only manger keeping us up last season would have been Enzo defensive has been awful and we have struggled in midfield 

[nettle]

2 hours ago, whoareyaaa said:

But he is still in management so he is not out of touch, Moyes made Everton better because he was the staple there not so long ago, obviously he is going to raise standards.

 

Ruud took over a team that was already relegated and had no pre season or players signed along with many injuries throughout his time.

I've heard it all now Leicester were relegated when Ruud took over😆

 

[MPH]

Rob Edwards is  available….

[winteriscoming]

Look at the managerial appointments so far in the championship Mason 33 wba, Still 32 Southampton, Manning 39 Norwich, and Pezzolano 42 Watford. 
Add to that Rohl 36 Sheffield weds, McKenna 39 at Ipswich and Mousinho 39 at Portsmouth. 
Yet for some reason we reportedly think dinosaur Dyche is the answer. 
 

 

[Mickyblueeyes]

It is a bit crazy, yes, the potential points deduction and constant issues with PSR would be concerning BUT, if you’re a young and upcoming manager, with players like Alves, Monga, Nelson, Evans, Fatawu, Aluko, Jacob etc. Even guys like McAteer and Wanya Marcel could add value next year. it must still be an exciting project. 
 

A conveyer belt of talent, and I’m not just saying that in hope. Rarely does that happen for a football club. 
 

If it wasn’t for three idiots at the top, it’s still a job many would want. 
 

How that list of players doesn’t excite an owner and DOF with a youth team background is beyond me - isn’t this the reason you pumped all that money into Seagrave ?

[Chelmofox]

So i've been in New York for a bit and out of the loop. Are we actually getting Dych or are we all just freaking out.

[kingfox]

22 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

Look at the managerial appointments so far in the championship Mason 33 wba, Still 32 Southampton, Manning 39 Norwich, and Pezzolano 42 Watford. 
Add to that Rohl 36 Sheffield weds, McKenna 39 at Ipswich and Mousinho 39 at Portsmouth. 
Yet for some reason we reportedly think dinosaur Dyche is the answer. 
 

 

Woah, woah, woah.
 

This is a bit rich coming from a guy who constantly mentioned a 60 year old Quique Sanchez Flores 

[Claudio Fannieri]

I really am struggling to understand why anyone would be gravitating towards Sean Dyche, given our current squad and circumstances he is the absolute opposite of what we need right now. 
 

His style of play and philosophy does not fit with the club or our playing staff, we are crying out for a progressive coach who can build a team around the academy and young hungry players. 
 

Dyche is so far away from this, some liken him to Pearson, but he is nothing like him, Dyche’s answer to being progressive is to make players train in shorts and shirts in middle of January to replicate match day, he is a yesterday’s man, the game has moved on. For me he is more of an underdog manager not the man for a progressive club with a £100m state of the art training ground and a flourishing academy system. 
 

Which is why I will keep saying it Richie Wellens is the man we should be bringing in, young, progressive, plays a good brand of football and has worked wonders at Leyton Orient with largely young players to take them from league 2 to within 90 minutes of Championship football, he knows the club and has worked under Pearson so knows what can be achieved at this club within a good structure. 
 

He is the type of manager that would commit to a long term project and would be the type that you could see still being here in 3 or 4 years time to bring back stability and continuity to the club. 

[Guest Bilo]

7 hours ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

It is a bit crazy, yes, the potential points deduction and constant issues with PSR would be concerning BUT, if you’re a young and upcoming manager, with players like Alves, Monga, Nelson, Evans, Fatawu, Aluko, Jacob etc. Even guys like McAteer and Wanya Marcel could add value next year. it must still be an exciting project. 
 

A conveyer belt of talent, and I’m not just saying that in hope. Rarely does that happen for a football club. 
 

If it wasn’t for three idiots at the top, it’s still a job many would want. 
 

How that list of players doesn’t excite an owner and DOF with a youth team background is beyond me - isn’t this the reason you pumped all that money into Seagrave ?

This, really. Now that Still has gone to Southampton, we're the most attractive Championship vacancy by a distance. The right manager probably wouldn't even need to spend that much if he can bring that little lot through in the right way, and then PSR issues become a thing of the past. 

 

Unless the points deduction is truly gargantuan (and I'm talking unprecedented), then a competent manager has us in the playoffs at a minimum. Two of the 23-24 relegated trio finished top three the following season with a 16 point gap to fourth and 190 points between them. Bear in mind how wretched Sheffield United were as well. There is absolutely no reason why we can't perform similarly if we can keep key players and bring in a couple of decent additions at RB and ST. 

 

If we can do that, then these players could come of age together in a not dissimilar way to the way that the 13-14 promotion side did. A newly promoted side full of talented young academy products and a progressive young manager could heal the enormous divide that exists between the board and the fanbase, but we have to get the appointment right.

[murphy]

9 hours ago, deep blue said:

On the contrary, Ruud took over a team who were 16th.  Survival was far from easy with our squad, but it was also far from impossible with a decent manager.

We were 16th ahead of Palace and Wolves who had awful starts.  Those teams finished on 53 points and 42 points respectively, so saying that we might have stayed up because we were 16th is meaningless really.  

[murphy]

38 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

I really am struggling to understand why anyone would be gravitating towards Sean Dyche, given our current squad and circumstances he is the absolute opposite of what we need right now. 
 

His style of play and philosophy does not fit with the club or our playing staff, we are crying out for a progressive coach who can build a team around the academy and young hungry players. 
 

Dyche is so far away from this, some liken him to Pearson, but he is nothing like him, Dyche’s answer to being progressive is to make players train in shorts and shirts in middle of January to replicate match day, he is a yesterday’s man, the game has moved on. For me he is more of an underdog manager not the man for a progressive club with a £100m state of the art training ground and a flourishing academy system. 
 

Which is why I will keep saying it Richie Wellens is the man we should be bringing in, young, progressive, plays a good brand of football and has worked wonders at Leyton Orient with largely young players to take them from league 2 to within 90 minutes of Championship football, he knows the club and has worked under Pearson so knows what can be achieved at this club within a good structure. 
 

He is the type of manager that would commit to a long term project and would be the type that you could see still being here in 3 or 4 years time to bring back stability and continuity to the club. 

The more that I read from this thread, the more disillusioned I become with any of the names mentioned, with the exception of Rohl perhaps.  There must be someone else.  I think you make a good case for Wellens.  Considering the paucity of our options, I'd be willing to go for an up and coming manager rather than one of those stale  merry-go-round names.

[stox259]

1 hour ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

I really am struggling to understand why anyone would be gravitating towards Sean Dyche, given our current squad and circumstances he is the absolute opposite of what we need right now. 
 

His style of play and philosophy does not fit with the club or our playing staff, we are crying out for a progressive coach who can build a team around the academy and young hungry players. 
 

Dyche is so far away from this, some liken him to Pearson, but he is nothing like him, Dyche’s answer to being progressive is to make players train in shorts and shirts in middle of January to replicate match day, he is a yesterday’s man, the game has moved on. For me he is more of an underdog manager not the man for a progressive club with a £100m state of the art training ground and a flourishing academy system. 
 

Which is why I will keep saying it Richie Wellens is the man we should be bringing in, young, progressive, plays a good brand of football and has worked wonders at Leyton Orient with largely young players to take them from league 2 to within 90 minutes of Championship football, he knows the club and has worked under Pearson so knows what can be achieved at this club within a good structure. 
 

He is the type of manager that would commit to a long term project and would be the type that you could see still being here in 3 or 4 years time to bring back stability and continuity to the club. 

I think the argument for Dyche is due to the need for someone 'who knows what they are doing' at the top end of the football club. Dyche would know how a football club should be run. It would be hoped he'd help guide Top in structuring the club to start working. I'm not a fan of Dyche but I can definitely see the need for a bit of competence and experience at a top level in this club. 

[Donwebbio]

1 hour ago, murphy said:

The more that I read from this thread, the more disillusioned I become with any of the names mentioned, with the exception of Rohl perhaps.  There must be someone else.  I think you make a good case for Wellens.  Considering the paucity of our options, I'd be willing to go for an up and coming manager rather than one of those stale  merry-go-round names.

Let's be honest, the club have major PSR issues so we are probably going to breach again for the accounting period ending 30th June, so along with a points deduction that is incoming, we will have another points deduction this time next year. So, even if we get promoted, we will start on minus points with still dicey finances so the odds will be majorly stacked against us. The calibre of manager we can attract with those handicaps will be limited. It wouldn't suit some of the European hipster names bandied on here who would frankly be gobsmacked at the structure of the club, and it wouldn't suit a club building type manager because there is very little they can do in terms of trading and building.

 

The best we can hope for is a manager who can maximise the performance of the players we already have, and who is happy to blood the talented youngsters coming through. Maybe an experienced head who can reset the toxic culture and restore pride in playing for the shirt.

 

The future will be grim until Top does the right thing and sells up or takes a polo mallet to the head, suddenly having an epiphany and deciding to delegate the running of the club.

Edited 13 June 2025 by Donwebbio

[Outfox the Fox]

17 hours ago, FOXYTALK said:

Dyche to Sheff Utd please 🤞

 

16 hours ago, Outfox the Fox said:

We can but hope. But I'm resigned to the fact that he is in pole position for us now!

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/sheffield-united-urged-to-swoop-in-for-leicester-city-targets-in-case-of-major-chris-wilder-decision/

 

Prayers are required, guys!

[Finnegan]

If we genuinely have been interested in Dyche, Martin and Rohl then we're in massive trouble to be quite honest. 

 

Not even because of the quality of any of those but because all three are drastically, drastically different and it demonstrates the board have no idea how big a problem that is. 

 

We can't keep lurching between managerial and coaching styles with no continuity, reinventing the squad every time. 

 

Pick a lane and get in it. 

 

[Leicesterpool]

I'm surprised at the dislike for Dyche, considering both his last two spells in championship have resulted in promotion you would have thought he'd be considered safe, sensible appointment. For me their are far worse manager's we could end up with... well we got one in charge now. I do feel that Dyche will bring some much needed stability back to the club something that we have lacked for sometime. I get the brand of football is not pretty and dreadful at times, but certainly brings organisation to a team and would certainly sort our defence out. Realistically now we are not getting an upcoming attacking football minded coach, at present we haven't got the image or finances to attract a manager like that. I would have liked to have seen Richie Wellens given a go, been very impressive what he's done at Leyton Orient and certainly a passionate manager the fans would appreciate at Filbert Way. Sadly I don't even think he's been considered by Dumb and Dumber. 

Edited 13 June 2025 by Leicesterpool

[davieG]

Your future with Dyche assuming he can get us promoted is lower league stagnation or more relegation. I'd sooner take a risk and see some exciting attacking football occasionally hitting the high spots even if it means we continue to yoyo, that is more in the Leicester style. I'm not a fan of the 'Coventry' ( 25 years or so fighting against relegation) style stagnation in the lower half of the league.

[Outfox the Fox]

I've been looking at the CV's and reputations (as summarised by a few commentators) of the 5 leading candidates in current betting:-

Rohl 4/7

Dyche 11/8

Carrick 7/1

Rosenior 8/1

O'Neil 10/1

 

Obviously, by a country mile, Rosenior is the leading candidate - his record and reputation is streets ahead of the others. But there is no way he'll want to leave a Ligue 1 club, playing in Europe and having just signed a new 3 year contract. Even if he did, there's way we can afford the sort of compo needed to get him.

 

Rohl looks to me, like the next best. He's done well at Wednesday and has a good CV as Assistant at a number of clubs. The problems with him of course, are he's still officially under contract (so could have compo issues), he wants to go back to Germany and he is also a very attractive candidate for clubs in a much better position than us (eg Ipswich, Brentford or even Sheffield United).

 

Of the rest, the standout for me, is, surprisingly, Carrick. Initially, I had doubts, especially after his record over the last season or two at Boro, when he appeared to blow their play off chances. But looking at how he was supported, looking at what resources were available to him, I think he's not entirely to blame. If you look at his overall managerial statistics (a 46% win record in nearly 3 years at Boro, plus how well he did at United, as a Coach, as well as being in Caretaker charge there - one similarity with a certain guy!), his style of play (pretty attractive, when you put it against Dyche's) and the reputation he has garnered over his managerial (and playing) career, he stacks up pretty well.

 

OF THE 5, he'd be my pick. But of course, there are FAR better candidates out there, its just difficult to see Rudkin or Top noticing them!

Edited 13 June 2025 by Outfox the Fox

[FrankieADZ]

12 hours ago, kingfox said:

The thing is, many fans have been advocating and would prefer Danny Rohl, with Rohl you also expect a change in style. 
 

Is our squad more suited to a particular style of football? With the changes we expect and are hoping to see this summer, as I said in a post earlier, it’s the perfect opportunity to change course. You’re more than likely going to get a change of course with Danny Rohl, and you’d definitely get one with Dyche. 
 

If they want to stick with the possession route, then even though I see him as a very underwhelming option, I instantly think Michael Carrick. 
 

When it comes to youth, I get the fear when it comes to Dyche, but I had a good debate on that topic a month or so a go. Personally I think he gets unwanted stick when it comes to youth development, it’s a very difficult topic to judge him on. Just scan through the Burnley squads during his era, then you’ll quickly realise why Dwight McNeil was the only one to come through, the talent wasn’t at his disposal, that’s not an excuse, the evidence is there, you’re not going to give a bunch of youth players game time in the Premier League when the majority of them were clearly of League 1 or League 2 standard, some have even ended up in Scotland, Ireland and Australia. 
 

At Everton, I’ve alluded to Harrison Armstrong numerous times. 17 years old and Dyche gave him a chance in the first team because he viewed him as being ready.

 

I get the fear, because Dyche’s record with younger players isn’t as substantial as other potential candidates, but the facts also are, that he’s developed plenty of players that were under the age of 24 when he had them. 

really like really?
hes hardly used them, the stats have shown that, he hardly played Armstrong too as @Ric Flair said

if you look at players under 24 hes hardly developed many, what 3/4 at most in his career, even when Burnley/watford in the championship; he didnt give many a chance

 

its the same names every year when a manager gets sacked

after seeing what Moyes has done at everton with the same squad; makes you think, as Moyes made Beto look good, where as under Dyche he looked like a lost lamb

[Chown]

2 hours ago, murphy said:

We were 16th ahead of Palace and Wolves who had awful starts.  Those teams finished on 53 points and 42 points respectively, so saying that we might have stayed up because we were 16th is meaningless really.  

Ruud gifted Wolves six of those points. We were far from relegated when he took over.

[murphy]

15 minutes ago, Chown said:

Ruud gifted Wolves six of those points. We were far from relegated when he took over.

Well our nearest rivals were Spurs on 38 points.  If you think there a manager on earth that could have wrung 38 points out of our mob, I beg to differ.

 

I'm just saying that 16th was a false position because Palace and Wolves were much better than their position at the time and left us in their wake.

 

The exact point that we were relegated (rather than the official date) is an interesting one.  Was it when Enzo left and took KDH?  Was it when we blew the budget on Skipp, Okoli and Ayew?  Was it the Danny Ward Wolves game?

[Leicesterpool]

Frustrating that the team that finished 17th were basically safe by early as February. Bottom three this season gave the other 17 teams an easy ride as the season before. At least back in October when Cooper was sacked, we were least not in the bottom three and seem to recall it was very tight it was like only five or six points from 8th. There was so much buzz when Ruud arrived, it felt like he was just that inspiring legend that we needed to lift us the table and get this squad believing. Instead It just seemed like by christmas he ran out of ideas. The last few months have been like going through the motions until the end of May. I understand the transfer window was the biggest let down, sounded he was promised funds that came. He knew once the board said there's no funds, we weren't staying up. The only thing Ruud is hoping for now is the sack. 

[Foxdiamond]

I know we are excited by the prospect of more academy players stepping up but it it not a bit fanciful to imagine 3 or 4 will immediately be at the core of the team if only we got a manager that values younger players over another manager. We know Man U famously won with "the kids" but they had a backbone of classy experienced pros. We are going to be involved in the Championship dog fight and need to get results quickly especially if we get a points deduction. 

[Bluetintedspecs]

Are people losing their sh*t over something concrete or is it just people being FoxesTalky? 

[Gazza M]

At 53 Dyche is by no means a dinosaur. We won the Prem with a guy then in his 60s. Maybe it is what we need to sort this mess of a squad out right now and grind us out results.