Plane Banner - Liverpool at home.

[Qwerty]

It's chavvy, and no one cares what chavs think.  

Such a shame, I thought the original slogan was really good.

[Tommy G]

1 minute ago, Qwerty said:

It's chavvy, and no one cares what chavs think.  

Such a shame, I thought the original slogan was really good.

Are you for or against it by any chance?

[Noahfence]

So basically nobody can agree on what the message should be 

[Muzzy_no7]

3 minutes ago, Qwerty said:

It's chavvy, and no one cares what chavs think.  

Such a shame, I thought the original slogan was really good.

Weird post.

 

As much as I tend to dislike or look down on ‘chavs’ they offer this club a lot more meaningful support than the prawn sandwich, happy clappy ‘we used to be league one’ brigade. 

Edited 19 March by Muzzy_no7

[Qwerty]

2 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Are you for or against it by any chance?

ha ha, I'm just saying that the thicker people sound, the less others will listen. 

[Qwerty]

1 minute ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

Weird post.

 

As much as I tend to dislike or look down on ‘chavs’ they offer this club a lot more meaningful support than the prawn sandwich, happy clappy ‘we used to be league one’ brigade. 

I've literally never seen a prawn sandwich anywhere near the stadium, unless you count Morrisons. 

 

[Jambiasso]

My two pence for what it's worth is that the donations (including mine) were flying in yesterday with the original message, King Power Out is something very different and not something I necessarily support.

 

As others have said it seems more petty after everything they've done for the club and the area and will likely cause many fans of other clubs and the media to be against our calls for change. Challenging the decision making gets the job done and points the fingers at Rudkin, Whelan and Top, King Power Out is basically only pointing the finger at Top.

[ozleicester]

4 minutes ago, Noahfence said:

So basically nobody can agree on what the message should be 

ohhh yes we can

[Silva Fox]

18 minutes ago, adejo92 said:

I really don't care what the banner says personally but its important the opportunity is used to gain as much traction as possible.

 

You'll never please everybody, so you've just got to please the majority.

I'm firmly in the King Power Out camp and have been for some time however.................

 

I agree that we need to get as much traction as possible from this and I'm not sure the more direct King Power Out message represents the majority view (of those who agree that a change is necessary). It's absolutely right that we've moved on from just targeting Rudkin personally but I do fear it could backfire if we're not careful. @ozvaldo I admire the fantastic efforts you've made on your own to get us to this point but wonder (as we've reached the target so quickly) if it's worth taking stock and maybe running an actual poll with the 3/4 options suggested for those who have contributed to vote on. Either way I won't be asking for a refund and I'll support whatever decision you make.

Edited 19 March by Silva Fox

[Qwerty]

My thinking is that if Top put the club up for sale today, what does that actually achieve?

There'd be uncertainty, instability, players wouldn't want to sign for a club whose ownership was in a state of flux, staff wouldn't want to work there.  And the new owners could be a million times worse.  We could end up with a Michael Ashley.  

 

But if Rudkin and Ruud were sacked, and a new Director of Football brought in, we'd all suddenly feel more positive.

Edited 19 March by Qwerty

[jonthefox]

King power out is too much. 

[Lako42]

The point here is the fans need to hold the owners to account and the Top to bottom strapline does that better imo. 

 

Pressure and embarrassment of Top is more achievable than just getting KP out is my thinking. 

 

We can't go from **** all as a fanbase to getting the owners out, we need to put way more pressure on them to do a better job. 

 

Personally holding Top to account achieves more imo. 

 

It also holds up more as an argument 

[Leicester_Loyal]

11 minutes ago, Qwerty said:

My thinking is that if Top put the club up for sale today, what does that actually achieve?

There'd be uncertainty, instability, players wouldn't want to sign for a club whose ownership was in a state of flux, staff wouldn't want to work there.  And the new owners could be a million times worse.  We could end up with a Michael Ashley.  

 

But if Rudkin and Ruud were sacked, and a new Director of Football brought in, we'd all suddenly feel more positive.

Literally all of the points you listed are happening under the current ownership?

[grobyfox1990]

44 minutes ago, Stuntman_Mike said:

We have quite a complex fanbase don't we?

 

The emotional attachment to Vichai and the 'recent success', combined with the typical Leicester mindset makes what should be a straight forward protest so much more complicated than it would be at most clubs. 

 

I don't think we do at all. I think we're easily understood, along the lines of what I was saying in the league cup thread the other day. Our trophies have bought the club no free passes. Look at our support nowadays, empty by 70 mins at home and can't even sell out away days. They'll all be back in 5 years if we're doing well.

Man U fans were incredibly loud on Sunday and appear to back their club hugely home and away. Contextually, they are in a far worse mess than us and have been for 12 years and counting.

The media like to make out Klopp is some sort of superhero but he had some stinking season and their fanbase stuck by him throughout.

Arteta has spent £100m's and delivered sweet FA, still very well backed.

Guardiola and the Sheikhs can leave when they want, even if they have a few more seasons like this year, no one will gun for them.

Those fanbases are maybe complex, we are very easy to understand, we want it all and will be there when that is happening, and kick off when it isn't.

[filbertway]

27 minutes ago, Qwerty said:

ha ha, I'm just saying that the thicker people sound, the less others will listen. 

 

I think it's probably the ones lacking cognitive functionality are the ones that will be crying about it.

 

SHAWT MEMOREES THEY PROBLY TOO YUNG TO REMEMBER LEEG OEN LOL

 

SUM PPL R SO DIZREPACFUL N UNGRATFUL TO DA FAMILY

[Pliskin]

I did like the premier league ambitions amateurish decisions slogan. Because they exactly what our scenario is! 

[Cityfan1]

18 minutes ago, Lako42 said:

The point here is the fans need to hold the owners to account and the Top to bottom strapline does that better imo. 

 

Pressure and embarrassment of Top is more achievable than just getting KP out is my thinking. 

 

We can't go from **** all as a fanbase to getting the owners out, we need to put way more pressure on them to do a better job. 

 

Personally holding Top to account achieves more imo. 

 

It also holds up more as an argument 

Would also argue that the football world and the pundits etc will just think we want “King Power out” because of our league position and think we have a sense of entitlement.

 

By stating the clubs rotten definitely holds up more as an argument 

[foxinsocks]

99% of fans would agree that the decisions made by those running the club have been very very poor - and it would be good to shame the board.  Yet IMO only about 10% of fans will get behind "King power out".  This change is a mistake and will undermine funding efforts in the future.  You guys should think again!  There was no democratic discussion - just an unilateral announcement that the money was being diverted into "something else"

[Vazman]

59 minutes ago, Qwerty said:

Saying "King Power Out" is like saying you want the head teacher of a school sacked because one of the teachers is shit. 

 

For protests to be successful they have to be intelligent, logical, sensible and well though out.  KING POWER OUT is like a drunken rant on a Saturday night, not a sensible objection. 

That's a terrible example, I probably would want the Head Teacher removed for not addressing the fact there is a shit teacher in his/her Scool.  

 

Bit like the situation we are in we have a shit DOF but the owner Top chooses to ignore it and do nothing and has done for some time.

 

Seems like a perfectly logical reason to protest.

[StanSP]

KP aren't held to account often enough because they think everything is fine and dandy. They'll also only pay attention to the fans that love them (was there even any comments in response to the Project Reset protest?). 

 

Having this flown above their heads will hopefully get enough of their attention (about bloody time) to think there's something wrong that needs addressing. 

 

To me, they just need to show accountability. Top in particular. Fire Rudkin and anyone else who has had a hand in our downfall for the last 5 or so years. That at least earns some trust back from fans that have been yearning for change. Actually showing some management bollocks and being ruthless enough to do so. 

 

I know there's debate about what the banner should specifically say, but ultimately I think a lot of us all desire the same end goal - to make sure our club is being looked after properly and professionally, and make sure we get back on the right trajectory that we started to fall from. It shouldn't just be words in the programme notes. Fans need more than that these days. 

[Mickyblueeyes]

At some point, there will be no where else to turn but pointing the finger at dickhead or KP. I get it, the KP lovers are incredibly aggressive, violent and lack control. At some point, we will have no option but to call them out. Surely that’s better at Liverpool at home, a game on telly that will be beamed across the world rather than Stoke at home in front of 16k and no outside interest whatsoever. The last set of games where we can really hammer home the message. 

[The_77]

35 minutes ago, Qwerty said:

My thinking is that if Top put the club up for sale today, what does that actually achieve?

There'd be uncertainty, instability, players wouldn't want to sign for a club whose ownership was in a state of flux, staff wouldn't want to work there.  And the new owners could be a million times worse.  We could end up with a Michael Ashley.  

 

But if Rudkin and Ruud were sacked, and a new Director of Football brought in, we'd all suddenly feel more positive.

That’s a great fantasy but at our club, our DoF is only the conduit for Top’s decisions. Everyone saying we just need Top to bring in better people at the club is also asking for the owner to give up a certain level of control that he does not appear to be willing to cede. 

[walkerleeds]

49 minutes ago, Jambiasso said:

My two pence for what it's worth is that the donations (including mine) were flying in yesterday with the original message, King Power Out is something very different and not something I necessarily support.

 

As others have said it seems more petty after everything they've done for the club and the area and will likely cause many fans of other clubs and the media to be against our calls for change. Challenging the decision making gets the job done and points the fingers at Rudkin, Whelan and Top, King Power Out is basically only pointing the finger at Top.

 

Why do you care about that?

[Lako42]

14 minutes ago, Cityfan1 said:

Would also argue that the football world and the pundits etc will just think we want “King Power out” because of our league position and think we have a sense of entitlement.

 

By stating the clubs rotten definitely holds up more as an argument 

Exactly this. 

 

Not my banner but would genuinely encourage a rethink and go with the rotten one 

[The_77]

4 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

At some point, there will be no where else to turn but pointing the finger at dickhead or KP. I get it, the KP lovers are incredibly aggressive, violent and lack control. At some point, we will have no option but to call them out. Surely that’s better at Liverpool at home, a game on telly that will be beamed across the world rather than Stoke at home in front of 16k and no outside interest whatsoever. The last set of games where we can really hammer home the message. 

At some point, maybe our fans will see that our directors are KP , whether or not the titles say so. It’s not either Rudkin or King Power, Rudkin represents King Power.