Pick one - Ruud or Rudkin?

[indierich06]

RVN is toss, but managers come and go - Rudkin is a seemingly inoperable cancer on this club at present. I'd much rather we had new owners and a new DOF by the start of next season, but it will never happen in a million years unfortunately.

[The Horse's Mouth]

Rudkin, we can still get success in spite of him, that doesn’t apply for ruud 

[Dan]

15 losses in 16 and he quite comfortably gets the nod for me.

 

I think there was a world where Van Nistelrooy could've taken us down and I'd have possibly bought into having him try and get us back up next season. But I can't after this. I would genuinely back myself to serve up better than what he has here in all honesty. You can't retain a relationship that's suffered this much.

 

Mind you as much as I want Rudkin gone, he's entered the latter day Rodgers zone where I don't even think his departure will really move me. So much so that I am convinced that problem lies above him. Aiyawatt bringing in another inept yes man would be a disaster and in some ways worse than keeping Rudkin. At least his persistence with him proves how useless he is while a switch up would buy him some undeserved backing.

[Dan]

40 minutes ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

Rudkin, we can still get success in spite of him, that doesn’t apply for ruud 

Not in 2025 we can't. We haven't got the residue of a previous era anymore.

[MPH]

Would I like my left one or the right one chopped off?

[The Horse's Mouth]

53 minutes ago, Dan said:

Not in 2025 we can't. We haven't got the residue of a previous era anymore.

Our chances will be better than this gaffer, he’d genuinely Luton us

[mozartfox]

Let’s read a copy of the Club’s ‘what went wrong report’  in conjunction with the Trust’s investigative conclusion first.  It worked 2 years ago 

and the transparency was much appreciated.

Edited 9 April by mozartfox

[Motty]

Mr Rudkin gives Ruud 5 year deal. Extends vestys and faes contracts. New contract to Danny ward signs eduard,  sells off the academy players. Whilst Top is playing in a Polo Tournament and scouting racehorses.

Sells both first team keepers.

 On Returning to the Club Top decides to move rudkin out of DoF role, sacks RVN and makes rudkin first team manager. On a 7 year contract on Brendan type Salary. Buys Brendan out of Celtic and gives him DoF role.

Welcome to LCFC summer 2025.

 

 

[Claudio Fannieri]

What a horrible question, truth is I hope neither are here.
 

However if we remove Ruud and Rudkin is still here, we are just kicking the can down the road, the club needs systemic change and the only way that truly happens is by removing Rudkin and bringing in a competent and forward thinking DoF. 
 

Rudkin proved last year even with a decent manager, he still managed to piss him off and nearly derail the season because of false promises made about January spending, add Brendan and Ruud to that list as well. 
 

Ruud has been a disaster for 16 games, however Rudkin’s fingerprints are all over a far longer decline, the issues he has helped create by offering long term extortionate contracts to some bang average players has led us to 2 relegations and being massively restricted financially by PSR through wasting 100’s of millions of pounds and allowing countless assets to leave the club for free. 
 

Rudkin is by far and away the biggest charlatan of the two, and if he is allowed to continue in his role then I am afraid we are set for more of the same. 

[Lako42]

People voting Rudkin should be banned 

[Bilo]

Hear me out...

 

Rudkin overseeing us and Leuven in a Global Head of Football Operations or some bullshit role (King Power ain't sacking him)

Puel as DoF.

BBM as Academy Manager

King as Head of Academy Player Development

Röhl as First Team Coach

[sylofox]

7 hours ago, sylofox said:

 

I voted Rudkin as was taking and didn't read it properly.

 

I thought we was voting for who we wanted gone.

 

7 hours ago, Lambert09 said:

I read the question wrong and messed up the poll. 
But… the answer is obviously ruud, because it ruud is still here, he will be gone after 6 games… Rudkin may never leave 

Join the club

[Finnegan]

8 hours ago, honeybradger said:

The players won't play for anyone because they don't have it in them to play football to a good enough level. We've seen the likes of Faes, Soumare, Kristiansen etc under multiple managers now and they haven't cut it.

 

If we get rid of Ruud and keep Rudkin we just sign more dead wood in the summer and bring in another awful manager. Rudkin has to be first out the door.

 

Literally one year ago we had Faes in the squad and Rudkin as the DOF and we still got promoted because we made a good choice of manager. 

 

Rudkin is a problem, he needs to go, the squad has too many issues, it needs an overhaul. Nobody is disputing that. 

 

But it's very silly to suggest that's a bigger, more immediate problem than replacing the inept celebrity we've got coaching the team. 

 

Honestly been probably the worst manager in our modern history. I'd rather Peter Taylor. 

 

[Bilo]

7 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Literally one year ago we had Faes in the squad and Rudkin as the DOF and we still got promoted because we made a good choice of manager. 

 

Rudkin is a problem, he needs to go, the squad has too many issues, it needs an overhaul. Nobody is disputing that. 

 

But it's very silly to suggest that's a bigger, more immediate problem than replacing the inept celebrity we've got coaching the team. 

 

Honestly been probably the worst manager in our modern history. I'd rather Peter Taylor. 

 

Hate to go by a common theme over the past few days, but you're right. 

 

It isn't that Rudkin is actively making things worse, it's that he's pretty much ineffectual. If we have a competent manager with a decent eye for a player, it's not disastrous.

 

It's when we have a poor manager that it all goes spectacularly south, as proved twice this season. Most damaging is when we get the appointment wrong in the summer, as it invariably leads to an awful transfer window. Maresca, for me, would have had to go at a similar time to Cooper (perhaps a little later as he had credit in the bank and the players loved him) but you can be sure he wouldn't have signed dross like Ayew and Reid.

 

In essence, if we recruit a decent manager who goes on to sign well and get us promoted, it's not implausible that the club begins to recover in spite of Rudkin. If RVN stays until August, we recruit badly under a manager the players clearly aren't having, waste a summer and the season- probably the next couple of seasons beyond it - are doomed.

[ClaphamFox]

This is like Sophie's Choice in reverse.

[lcfc sheff]

I’d imagine we can’t afford to sack Ruud 

[Finnegan]

4 minutes ago, lcfc sheff said:

I’d imagine we can’t afford to sack Ruud 

 

He'll go in the summer. We might put him on "gardening leave" until the next PSR period officially starts before paying him off but he won't be the manager next year.

[lcfc sheff]

2 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

He'll go in the summer. We might put him on "gardening leave" until the next PSR period officially starts before paying him off but he won't be the manager next year.

I have a strange feeling it’ll be either him or Brian Murphy in charge next season. Fingers crossed you’re right 

[Foxin_Mad]

Rudkin needs to ho, no point sacking the manager until the clown choosing the managers and awful players goes.,

Edited 9 April by Foxin_Mad

[AKCJ]

7 hours ago, Dan said:

15 losses in 16 and he quite comfortably gets the nod for me.

 

I think there was a world where Van Nistelrooy could've taken us down and I'd have possibly bought into having him try and get us back up next season. But I can't after this. I would genuinely back myself to serve up better than what he has here in all honesty. You can't retain a relationship that's suffered this much.

 

Mind you as much as I want Rudkin gone, he's entered the latter day Rodgers zone where I don't even think his departure will really move me. So much so that I am convinced that problem lies above him. Aiyawatt bringing in another inept yes man would be a disaster and in some ways worse than keeping Rudkin. At least his persistence with him proves how useless he is while a switch up would buy him some undeserved backing.

I don't actually think Rudkin is the yes man. I think Top is.

 

Feels to me like he's based the other side of the world taking direction from those below him. I can picture Rudkin and Whelan at seagrave on a conference call with him while he's at half time on one of his Polo games telling him how well it's all going and encouraging him to put his feet up while they handle it. Meanwhile in the background players are lighting fires and eating crayons.

[honeybradger]

1 hour ago, Finnegan said:

 

Literally one year ago we had Faes in the squad and Rudkin as the DOF and we still got promoted because we made a good choice of manager. 

 

Rudkin is a problem, he needs to go, the squad has too many issues, it needs an overhaul. Nobody is disputing that. 

 

But it's very silly to suggest that's a bigger, more immediate problem than replacing the inept celebrity we've got coaching the team. 

 

Honestly been probably the worst manager in our modern history. I'd rather Peter Taylor. 

 

The key difference is that Leicester were in the championship last year. Faes was still the same player making boneheaded decisions under Maresca, we just weren't punished by championship sides for those mistakes because most of the forwards in that league couldnt hit a barn door.

 

Look at our game against QPR this season for example, both teams at full strength and we blew them away. Last year Leicester struggled in both games.

 

Even with Maresca we brought in Coady, Winks and Cannon for far too high transfer fees and in Coady and Winks case far too high wages. The pile on of dead wood at this club will continue until Rudkin is gone.

[cityfanlee23]

3 hours ago, Bilo said:

Hear me out...

 

Rudkin overseeing us and Leuven in a Global Head of Football Operations or some bullshit role (King Power ain't sacking him)

Puel as DoF.

BBM as Academy Manager

King as Head of Academy Player Development

Röhl as First Team Coach

This is it I think. Puel is perfect for a DOF role, has a clear eye for a good value player, has a history of promoting youth so we would be signing players aged 16-23 for the most part, handled the Vichai situation like a pro and he’s a guy who actually has a vision and the convictions to stick to it. 

[Bilo]

4 minutes ago, cityfanlee23 said:

This is it I think. Puel is perfect for a DOF role, has a clear eye for a good value player, has a history of promoting youth so we would be signing players aged 16-23 for the most part, handled the Vichai situation like a pro and he’s a guy who actually has a vision and the convictions to stick to it. 

Which, you would think, endears him to the hierarchy of the club. 

 

The transfer window where he signed Maddison, Soyuncu and Ricardo was outstanding. 

[cityfanlee23]

28 minutes ago, Bilo said:

Which, you would think, endears him to the hierarchy of the club. 

 

The transfer window where he signed Maddison, Soyuncu and Ricardo was outstanding. 

Tielemans on loan with an option to buy was also a fantastic piece of business for us, as was Evans for under £5m. 
 

We won’t talk about the goalkeeper he signed though 🤣

Edited 9 April by cityfanlee23

[Bilo]

7 minutes ago, cityfanlee23 said:

Tielemans on loan with an option to buy was also a fantastic piece of business for us, as was Evans for under £5m. 
 

We won’t talk about the goalkeeper he signed though 🤣

Tbf, Ward as backup GK for the competitions wasn't disastrous. He had a great record in shootouts. He was destroyed by being promoted to a Premier League first choice, which he was never good enough for and destroyed his confidence.