Popular Post Bluearmyfox28 Posted 7 July 2025 Popular Post Posted 7 July 2025 18 minutes ago, nnfox said: I did watch the P'Boro game and after spending Saturday afternoon revelling in the prospect of walking the league with a team made of teenagers, I woke up on Sunday and realised that it was the first pre season game, coached by a coach who doesn't want to be our manager yet, at the training ground against League One opposition in what was also their first pre-season friendly where none of our players played more than 45 minutes. So putting that to one side and realising that we have a long hard season ahead of us in a challenging league, I don't get the hate for Dyche. We are a club that has no money to spend on new players, has a potential points deduction coming our way and a player culture that needs a massive shake up. These are big issues that need seriously addressing and Dyche comes with experience of this type of situation - I don't get the hate for him. I hope the kids we have do live up to the "if you're good enough, you're old enough" mantra, and we get a manager that will give them lots of game time, play pretty football, score loads of goals and concede not very many and everything will work out just fine, but the realist in me knows that there are deeper issues at our club that need sorting out. All managers come with risk. Some work out very well, others don't live up to expectations. The hate for Dyche is the exact reasons I’ve just stated? He doesn’t fit our playing squad, he’s the complete opposite to everything we want, and he’s completely the opposite to the whole reason we moved to Seagrave. His appointment would take us back several years. You are right about the P’Boro game, I do think many people are getting carried away. However, you can’t ignore the fact that some academy lads out there looked just as good if not better than players that earning £40/£50k a week. Quality doesn’t lie regardless of who you’re playing against. With regards to Dyche’s iron fist, I’ll be honest this is one comment that’s doing my nut in (Not personal to you). There are so many available managers that I could list that expect such high standards and take no shit but also play attractive football. This theory that we have to accept a poor style of play to get some standards is complete nonsense. Literally within 5 seconds of thinking who else, you’ve got managers like Richie Wellens, Ange Postecoglu, Nuri Sahin, Ralph Hassenhuttl? All known for demanding high standards. People need to realise Dyche is known for his “Iron Fist” because he’s shit at everything else. 8
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 7 July 2025 Posted 7 July 2025 26 minutes ago, lcfcbluearmy said: Yes we looked shit, the only exception being a few of the youngsters that could easily adapt to a more direct style as when we scored that’s what we did. They would be fine under Dyche Why make them adapt when you can get someone to play to their strengths? 1
Aleksz Posted 7 July 2025 Posted 7 July 2025 1 minute ago, Bluearmyfox28 said: The hate for Dyche is the exact reasons I’ve just stated? He doesn’t fit our playing squad, he’s the complete opposite to everything we want, and he’s completely the opposite to the whole reason we moved to Seagrave. His appointment would take us back several years. You are right about the P’Boro game, I do think many people are getting carried away. However, you can’t ignore the fact that some academy lads out there looked just as good if not better than players that earning £40/£50k a week. Quality doesn’t lie regardless of who you’re playing against. With regards to Dyche’s iron fist, I’ll be honest this is one comment that’s doing my nut in (Not personal to you). There are so many available managers that I could list that expect such high standards and take no shit but also play attractive football. This theory that we have to accept a poor style of play to get some standards is complete nonsense. Literally within 5 seconds of thinking who else, you’ve got managers like Richie Wellens, Ange Postecoglu, Nuri Sahin, Ralph Hassenhuttl? All known for demanding high standards. People need to realise Dyche is known for his “Iron Fist” because he’s shit at everything else. Nailed it.
Outfox the Fox Posted 7 July 2025 Posted 7 July 2025 19 minutes ago, bald reynard said: Chris Powell in NOW as Coach, to work with Kingy (again), then when his boss comes in as Manager (whenever he can sort out his stuff with that 'looney', Chansiri), CP to be Assistant. Good plan, ticks all the boxes for me. And to get Powell back is the icing on the cake - a legend. Great support for Kingy now - and of course they know each other well. 1
OadbyBlue Posted 7 July 2025 Posted 7 July 2025 O’Neil seems pretty detested by both of his previous fanbases.
foxfanazer Posted 7 July 2025 Posted 7 July 2025 3 minutes ago, OadbyBlue said: O’Neil seems pretty detested by both of his previous fanbases. I don't want him but I do find that a bit strange. He seemed to have good spells at both clubs for a while 1
Craig Posted 7 July 2025 Posted 7 July 2025 Just now, foxfanazer said: I don't want him but I do find that a bit strange. He seemed to have good spells at both clubs for a while Literally holds the worst record at either club for many years. Seemed to do okay at the start of both tenures, but really didn't do well after that. 1
foxfanazer Posted 7 July 2025 Posted 7 July 2025 4 minutes ago, Craig said: Literally holds the worst record at either club for many years. Seemed to do okay at the start of both tenures, but really didn't do well after that. Oh really, fair enough
lcfcbluearmy Posted 7 July 2025 Posted 7 July 2025 22 minutes ago, Bluearmyfox28 said: Why make them adapt when you can get someone to play to their strengths? I think there strengths is a bit more direct than we have been plating not saying goofball but it's when we attack we see the positives 1
ClaphamFox Posted 7 July 2025 Posted 7 July 2025 8 minutes ago, foxfanazer said: I don't want him but I do find that a bit strange. He seemed to have good spells at both clubs for a while Wolves degenerated into a chaotic mess under him - zero discipline, fighting among themselves, etc. In one post-match interview O'Neil basically admitted he couldn't coach the squad. Then Pereira arrived and they improved beyond measure. We should avoid him like the plague. 3
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 7 July 2025 Posted 7 July 2025 7 minutes ago, lcfcbluearmy said: I think there strengths is a bit more direct than we have been plating not saying goofball but it's when we attack we see the positives But Dyche is known for being a defensive minded manager?
Aleksz Posted 7 July 2025 Posted 7 July 2025 Swear if we’re baulking at spending £1m< on Rohl and end up spending £1m> on some absolute puddle of puke this summer a la last summer with Corberan and then Ayew/Skipp then my head will absolutely fly off. They never learn. 1 3
FoxinNotts Posted 7 July 2025 Posted 7 July 2025 The issue won't be the size of the fee to release him, ffs, c'mon, we're not that skint, despite what the doom mongers on here say! The reason will be (like I've been banging on about for ages) is that Sheff Wed owner is a nut case, and he won't be making his release easy. If he feels, legally that Rohl will be in breach of their contract, if he walks away or even resigns, then he may stick by his guns and no one may be able to employ him! - Contracts can be a complicated thing. 3
Nickaj Posted 7 July 2025 Posted 7 July 2025 So we've one incompetent Thai businessman losing patience with another incompetent Thai businessman leading to the first incompetent Thai businessman then turning to Jon Rudkin to sort things out for him. That's alright then, we're saved! 1
Paninistickers Posted 7 July 2025 Posted 7 July 2025 19 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: Wolves degenerated into a chaotic mess under him - zero discipline, fighting among themselves, etc. In one post-match interview O'Neil basically admitted he couldn't coach the squad. Then Pereira arrived and they improved beyond measure. We should avoid him like the plague. ...yet Scott Parker publicly stated Bournemouth weren't up to it after a 9-0 early season defeat to Liverpool, left the club and GON led them to a fairly safe survival. Sometimes players just need a new voice
lcfcbluearmy Posted 7 July 2025 Posted 7 July 2025 15 minutes ago, Bluearmyfox28 said: But Dyche is known for being a defensive minded manager? His Burnley championship teams were I'm the top 3 highest scorers every year. Only once he went to the prem he became hugely defensive mainly out of pragmatism
oxtonfox Posted 7 July 2025 Posted 7 July 2025 Has anyone in authority at the club said that we’re looking for a new manager? If so, I hadn’t heard or seen it. I suspect there’s a fair chance that we’ll bumble along with Kingy to save a few quid.
ClaphamFox Posted 7 July 2025 Posted 7 July 2025 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Paninistickers said: ...yet Scott Parker publicly stated Bournemouth weren't up to it after a 9-0 early season defeat to Liverpool, left the club and GON led them to a fairly safe survival. Sometimes players just need a new voice He was sacked after keeping Bournemouth up because they had seen him at close quarters and decided that he wasn't manager material. He then went on to have a decent start at Wolves before it imploded in spectacular fashion. The only difference between his spells at Bournemouth and Wolves is that Bournemouth had the good sense to sack him before it fell apart, not afterwards. Anybody who watched some of his post-match interviews at Wolves could tell you that he was seriously out of his depth. He looked completely haunted and helpless. There's no shame in that - managing a squad of football players is a hard job and few people are up to it. He may be a very good coach and I suspect he'll end up going back down that route. But do I think he could manage a squad of players like ours in a club with all our issues? Never in a million years. Edited 7 July 2025 by ClaphamFox
Eskay Posted 7 July 2025 Posted 7 July 2025 1 hour ago, Fox-LMA said: Percy & Dorsett state that it will drag on in to later in the week. Maybe they are trying to give the (difficult) Rohl deal every chance? Massively reading between the lines, I know! (or even clutching at straws...) Make no mistake it's been leaked by the club. Where my hopes lie is that they're using it to hurry someone else along. 2
Fox-LMA Posted 7 July 2025 Posted 7 July 2025 1 hour ago, Bluearmyfox28 said: The hate for Dyche is the exact reasons I’ve just stated? He doesn’t fit our playing squad, he’s the complete opposite to everything we want, and he’s completely the opposite to the whole reason we moved to Seagrave. His appointment would take us back several years. You are right about the P’Boro game, I do think many people are getting carried away. However, you can’t ignore the fact that some academy lads out there looked just as good if not better than players that earning £40/£50k a week. Quality doesn’t lie regardless of who you’re playing against. With regards to Dyche’s iron fist, I’ll be honest this is one comment that’s doing my nut in (Not personal to you). There are so many available managers that I could list that expect such high standards and take no shit but also play attractive football. This theory that we have to accept a poor style of play to get some standards is complete nonsense. Literally within 5 seconds of thinking who else, you’ve got managers like Richie Wellens, Ange Postecoglu, Nuri Sahin, Ralph Hassenhuttl? All known for demanding high standards. People need to realise Dyche is known for his “Iron Fist” because he’s shit at everything else. Some very good points here.. Also worth remembering that Dyche would be easily the most expensive of all the managers mentioned so far. 1
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 7 July 2025 Posted 7 July 2025 Interestingly Rohl isn’t represent by Wasserman if I’m correct? I wonder if there’s a mutual agreement that Leicester interview Wasserman managers to get their name out there, the agency looks like they are providing opportunities, when in reality we are after Rohl all along. Keeps all parties happy?
Grebfromgrebland Posted 7 July 2025 Posted 7 July 2025 47 minutes ago, Craig said: Literally holds the worst record at either club for many years. Seemed to do okay at the start of both tenures, but really didn't do well after that. Come on there's no chance he beats Ruuds record.
Richmondfox Posted 7 July 2025 Posted 7 July 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bluearmyfox28 said: The hate for Dyche is the exact reasons I’ve just stated? He doesn’t fit our playing squad, he’s the complete opposite to everything we want, and he’s completely the opposite to the whole reason we moved to Seagrave. His appointment would take us back several years. You are right about the P’Boro game, I do think many people are getting carried away. However, you can’t ignore the fact that some academy lads out there looked just as good if not better than players that earning £40/£50k a week. Quality doesn’t lie regardless of who you’re playing against. With regards to Dyche’s iron fist, I’ll be honest this is one comment that’s doing my nut in (Not personal to you). There are so many available managers that I could list that expect such high standards and take no shit but also play attractive football. This theory that we have to accept a poor style of play to get some standards is complete nonsense. Literally within 5 seconds of thinking who else, you’ve got managers like Richie Wellens, Ange Postecoglu, Nuri Sahin, Ralph Hassenhuttl? All known for demanding high standards. People need to realise Dyche is known for his “Iron Fist” because he’s shit at everything else. I agree. He’s just another clogger manager who will fill us up with clogger players. The only way to get rid of him would be to pay him off and we’ll get stuck with the shit players seeing out their contracts. Just like with Cooper and the shit he has left us with. Dyche has found his role and his level and manoeuvres his career well. He is the desperate easy choice for those thinking the long term will sort itself out. Hopefully Top is just stalling, like they did with the duty free and got better rates in the end. Thais don’t like to lose face publicly and can end up cutting off their noses to spite the face. Edited 7 July 2025 by Richmondfox 1
Craig Posted 7 July 2025 Posted 7 July 2025 Just now, Grebfromgrebland said: Come on there's no chance he beats Ruuds record. Nobody beats Ruud's record(s).
jbflcfc Posted 7 July 2025 Posted 7 July 2025 33 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said: The issue won't be the size of the fee to release him, ffs, c'mon, we're not that skint, despite what the doom mongers on here say! The reason will be (like I've been banging on about for ages) is that Sheff Wed owner is a nut case, and he won't be making his release easy. If he feels, legally that Rohl will be in breach of their contract, if he walks away or even resigns, then he may stick by his guns and no one may be able to employ him! - Contracts can be a complicated thing. Not sure why a lot of people aren’t getting this. it won’t be as simple as just paying him compo & letting him walk. Chansiri is probably the most difficult person to negotiate with at this current stage, I’m not a KP advocate but there’s only so much they can do if he is digging his heels in. 3
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