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Posted
1 minute ago, ARM1968 said:

Ahh now I understand. You were born and have lived, apparently, without the ability to detect irony. Tis an affliction some appear to suffer from. You missed the whole point of the post and created, in your own mind, a meaning that was not mine.  Don’t worry. You will not be alone. 

this is the internet and the woke age dont take about such things

as frankly youll offend

Posted
2 hours ago, Spudulike said:

Does he do that naff orchestrated fist pump thing in front of the fans when we've won? He is German, I think.

Maybe even an aggressive clench of the badge. 

Posted
2 hours ago, ARM1968 said:

He’s not shit. Not the right fit for us. Can’t have one component of the setup standing out against all the others. Come on. 

Have I missed a post? What is the context here? 

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Think Dyche would be fine for a year or two then we would have to sack him, think Rohl would do the same then someone would buy him out, and imagine the footy will be more attractive with Rohl and players would be more attracted to sign for him… footballers are just people the same as anyone, and they will have a similar perspective on Dyche vs Rohl as many of us have, as disliked as that may be by some here

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Has Rohl ever won anything with anyone at any level ? Iv only ever heard of him because of the quite frankly weird love in on here - people would rather him take charge of us in the most dire of situations than a guy who has won the championship multiple times and kept Burnley in the prem for something like 7 years with literally peanuts and buttons to spend - bonkers on all accounts- let’s get real - with dyche we know for a FACT we will challenge at the top of the division- with rohl it’s a complete punt - watch what you wish for 

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2 minutes ago, jv1 said:

Has Rohl ever won anything with anyone at any level ? Iv only ever heard of him because of the quite frankly weird love in on here - people would rather him take charge of us in the most dire of situations than a guy who has won the championship multiple times and kept Burnley in the prem for something like 7 years with literally peanuts and buttons to spend - bonkers on all accounts- let’s get real - with dyche we know for a FACT we will challenge at the top of the division- with rohl it’s a complete punt - watch what you wish for 

We're desperate 

Posted
8 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

We're desperate 

To a certain extent we as fans are desperate to see an end to what feels like a deep and rotting culture at the club BUT Leicester city is a great job for 90% of managers - maybe not the elite but definitely the rest - points deduction or not we are close to passing through the psr bs after this year and we have a ridiculous squad for the championship - there is still a lot to like about our managers job and I personally want someone who will actually have some balls about them and get done what’s needed but we also need to win - it has to be the number 1 priority- blooding the youth , getting rid of the overpaid chancers , maybe finding investors etc etc can all be done but you still have to win - it’s a non negotiable with football nowadays and we need a manager that knows how to get us back out of this absolutely crap league 

Posted
10 minutes ago, jv1 said:

Has Rohl ever won anything with anyone at any level ? Iv only ever heard of him because of the quite frankly weird love in on here - people would rather him take charge of us in the most dire of situations than a guy who has won the championship multiple times and kept Burnley in the prem for something like 7 years with literally peanuts and buttons to spend - bonkers on all accounts- let’s get real - with dyche we know for a FACT we will challenge at the top of the division- with rohl it’s a complete punt - watch what you wish for 

I want Rhol, but I completely get this. I don’t really now why, good PR on here I guess and Wednesday fans seem to love him.
 

I Think about it like this, if we had a manger that everyone loved on fox talk there must be something in it. I would argue that since CR we haven’t not had that, even with success under meresca and Rodgers. If they love him he must be doing the right things not all weeks but most weeks. 
 

if of course I’m wrong and there are still reservation for the Wednesday fans and Han I have no idea. I guess it’s the unknown that intriguing. It’s worth noting also that I don’t want the young and unknown for the sake of it. I didn’t want Ruud, I don’t feel the love at all. 

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22 minutes ago, DezFox said:

I want Rhol, but I completely get this. I don’t really now why, good PR on here I guess and Wednesday fans seem to love him.
 

I Think about it like this, if we had a manger that everyone loved on fox talk there must be something in it. I would argue that since CR we haven’t not had that, even with success under meresca and Rodgers. If they love him he must be doing the right things not all weeks but most weeks. 
 

if of course I’m wrong and there are still reservation for the Wednesday fans and Han I have no idea. I guess it’s the unknown that intriguing. It’s worth noting also that I don’t want the young and unknown for the sake of it. I didn’t want Ruud, I don’t feel the love at all. 

Yep it seems Wednesday fans do love him but they are a bigger basket case than us and his success has been completely about them being less crap than they were - I also get the feeling the love in is because they really hate their owners so the manager becomes the opposite and can’t do any wrong 

 

I think it’s similar to the moyes conversation half way through last year when he was out work and we had no manager - so many on here saying he was a dinosaur and we shouldn’t go anywhere near him and ruud would be a better option - young and upcoming and a better style of play - all of which was complete nonsense - there are big reasons why guys like moyes and dyche have been in the game so long - they are good at what they do - I think moyes is miles better than dyche by the way and the everton uplift probably shows that however we are in the level below now and dyche is without a doubt one of the best managers if not the best manager we could get at that level and he has proven it loads of times - we will have done very well if we get him - if we end up with rohl it’s another absolute punt and could easily be another disaster to back up cooper and ruud 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

By this metric, you'd have gone for Dyche over Enzo two summers ago and Stan Ternent over Nigel Pearson 17 years ago.

 

We are an absolute mess, that an immediate promotion only pauses the problems if nothing else changes. I'm not interested in going up for the sake of it. 

 

We've not spent the last decade building the foundations of what we are now witnessing from our academy, which incidentally comes at a time where we aren't in a place of power and makes the nurture of these talents even more crucial. If we are to get anywhere near to what we've achieved in the previous decade then we need to cultivate these young players and turn them in to 8 figure worth players to build the financial flexibility that we don't have anymore due to those at the very top that as it stands still remains.

 

It will require more than just the right manager but at the very least that's more prosperous to the club than continuing the disjointed strategy of this club, which Sean Dyche would sum us up if appointed.

 

I'm not completely sold on Röhl but he did an extremely good job rescuing Sheffield Wednesday in 2023/24 and last season was a carry on of them punching above their weight. They're relegation fodder and he had them mid table. It's a very good 1st managerial role for him. It's unreasonable to expect in the 1.5 seasons there that he could have challenged for promotion for example. 

 

 

Different ways of thinking about things and our current situation and I think probably the 2 sides of the coin our fanbase currently sit on - I agree with some of your points but I guess I’m as much about the now than just the future - if we don’t get the now right and still win then the future becomes a very different story and the idealism you speak of becomes impossible - iv been going since I was 6 years old so 35 years and our success have never really been built on bringing academy lads through - sure we have had some from heskey to chilwell to barnes but Have we ever had more than a couple of academy lads around our successful sides?? Not that I remember- we have done it a slightly different way - I’m all for bringing the lads through if they are good enough and ready but no way just for the sake of it - a team struggling at the bottom of the league with 5 academy lads in it because we are trying to blood them no matter what the results doesn’t work in my mind 

 

we have to win whilst bringing the ones that are good enough through to get opportunities- has rohl got any credentials of playing the kids ?? As far I’m aware there is no proof that dyche wouldn’t also get the ones ready involved - iv heard the braybrooke and alves conversation a million times - they simply weren’t good enough and never went on to make it anywhere which is the story of the fact our Academy just quite simply hasn’t been good enough - and if the new guy in charge think some of the ones coming through now are good enough like monga then I’m convinced dyche would give him his chance - and there lies the conundrum- can you still win whilst not cutting off the path of the youth - I see nothing to say rohl would be better at that than dyche 

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On 25/05/2025 at 10:49, SK3Blue said:

Incredible isn’t it. Kick a ball about in the week for a bit, have the weekend off, get paid daft amounts. 
 

Vardy leaving has been the perfect distraction, but those going today, loud and clear, sack the board chants, let em have it. 

totally agree

Posted
9 minutes ago, filbertway said:

lol what?

 

You're talking about them like they're 32 and playing for Quorn

Nope I’m talking about them factually - been the talk of our academy development for years and not one gaffer has given either a game - Alves got relegated last season and braybrooke struggled in Scotland - neither anywhere good enough even in a world where we were as absolute pony as last season 

Posted
1 minute ago, jv1 said:

Nope I’m talking about them factually - been the talk of our academy development for years and not one gaffer has given either a game - Alves got relegated last season and braybrooke struggled in Scotland - neither anywhere good enough even in a world where we were as absolute pony as last season 

You ought to tell it how it is!

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Just now, jv1 said:

Nope I’m talking about them factually - been the talk of our academy development for years and not one gaffer has given either a game - Alves got relegated last season and braybrooke struggled in Scotland - neither anywhere good enough even in a world where we were as absolute pony as last season 

Much like Barnes and Maddison are gash, both with relegations on their CV.

 

We'll see next year I suppose, I think Alves has done enough at Cardiff to fancy he'll have a decent part to play next season.

 

Braybrooke is an odd one. Went on loan to Dundee as they were planning to sell their midfielder. They decided to keep him and Sammy didn't get a look in. Will be interesting to see what happens with him next season, it's clear that the talent is there, but he needs to be showing it week in week out at senior level. Whether that's with us in the Champ or out on loan.

 

The fact we've got so many young lads in an around international football is certainly a sign that we're improving the quality of players we're bringing through. One of the few things that we can actually be excited about, well if you allow yourself to anyway :p

 

Posted
5 minutes ago, jv1 said:

Nope I’m talking about them factually - been the talk of our academy development for years and not one gaffer has given either a game - Alves got relegated last season and braybrooke struggled in Scotland - neither anywhere good enough even in a world where we were as absolute pony as last season 

So your writing Alves off after less than 700 mins of senior league football and Braybrooke after less than 300 mins.

 

Wow.......

Posted
1 minute ago, filbertway said:

Much like Barnes and Maddison are gash, both with relegations on their CV.

 

We'll see next year I suppose, I think Alves has done enough at Cardiff to fancy he'll have a decent part to play next season.

 

Braybrooke is an odd one. Went on loan to Dundee as they were planning to sell their midfielder. They decided to keep him and Sammy didn't get a look in. Will be interesting to see what happens with him next season, it's clear that the talent is there, but he needs to be showing it week in week out at senior level. Whether that's with us in the Champ or out on loan.

 

The fact we've got so many young lads in an around international football is certainly a sign that we're improving the quality of players we're bringing through. One of the few things that we can actually be excited about, well if you allow yourself to anyway :p

 

I know it sounds harsh and I don’t completely disagree with all you say but barnes and Maddison got relegated from the prem not the championship and we know there is a million miles between the 2 pairs of players - I am absolutely 💯 hoping the young lads come through and are good enough from the new crop - would be mad not to want it of course we all do - it’s the perfect scenario all round - but it hasn’t even been close to the case for many years - barnes , kdh and  chilwell have been the only 3 really in 10 years which tells its own story - fingers crossed Nelson and monga are the next few that take their chance 

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Posted
7 minutes ago, Guest said:

"Never went on to make it anywhere" is just quite an odd thing to say about players who are 20 and 21, that's all

Fair comment - I really do hope they proven me wrong and you ate right that they have plenty of time left - so far though it has to be said not one of our managers in last 4 years has given them a single league minute and that tells its own story 

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7 minutes ago, jv1 said:

I know it sounds harsh and I don’t completely disagree with all you say but barnes and Maddison got relegated from the prem not the championship and we know there is a million miles between the 2 pairs of players - I am absolutely 💯 hoping the young lads come through and are good enough from the new crop - would be mad not to want it of course we all do - it’s the perfect scenario all round - but it hasn’t even been close to the case for many years - barnes , kdh and  chilwell have been the only 3 really in 10 years which tells its own story - fingers crossed Nelson and monga are the next few that take their chance 

You mention Nelson there.

 

He's 14 months older than Alves and 6 days younger than Braybrooke.

 

I agree with you, they do need to be good enough, or at least have the capacity to improve. I think Nelson and Alves have shown at 20 and 19 that they're comfortable at this level. Both were getting decent reviews from Oxford and Cardiff fans.

 

To be fair I think we're all on the same page. Me and people like Ric are dreamers and idealists when it comes to the academy, whereas you clearly take a more pragmatic view (which is probably the right way to look at things to be fair lol )

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2 minutes ago, filbertway said:

You mention Nelson there.

 

He's 14 months older than Alves and 6 days younger than Braybrooke.

 

I agree with you, they do need to be good enough, or at least have the capacity to improve. I think Nelson and Alves have shown at 20 and 19 that they're comfortable at this level. Both were getting decent reviews from Oxford and Cardiff fans.

 

To be fair I think we're all on the same page. Me and people like Ric are dreamers and idealists when it comes to the academy, whereas you clearly take a more pragmatic view (which is probably the right way to look at things to be fair lol )

Yea I think we all want the same thing - I’m probably overly harsh and overly pragmatic- I’d have loved to see these boys come through and shine and your right they are still boys and have time - it’s a balance and we all should want them to succeed in a Leicester shirt - nothing better than seeing a lad come through and do it - I agree with you both fully on that 

 

and yes Rick probably a bit harsh on alves - I truly hope he shows what he can do and stays injury free and is good enough to contribute next season 👍

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