Danny Rohl - incoming?

[MrsJohnMurphy]

1 hour ago, smudger63 said:

So am i right, he has manged one club in his career, Sheff Wednesday, and his claim to fame is he has kept them up, in what is a weak and shite division.

In the mean time, Norwich have recently appointed Liam Manning, and Middlesbrough, having got rid of Carrick, decided to go for Rob Edwards who had took Luton down, both were linked with Rohl, but both went somewhere else.

Hull City have gone for Jakirovic after getting rid of Ruben Selles, and Sheff United have opted for Selles.

I know that Sheff Wednesday will want compo to get him out of the club, but certainly Boro, Norwich and Sheff United, will have all been able to pay that compo if they had deemed him good enough.

To be fair, i suppose this where we are at now, at a point where just a statistically average manager is seen at a great fit for us now.

It`s all so very sad.

That's because it's all agreed he's coming here, just wait for 1st July

[Fox92]

5 hours ago, smudger63 said:

Am I missing something with Danny Rohl?

He's hardly ripped it up at Sheff Wednesday has he? 

Yet he seems to be the name that most would be happy with.

 

 

You probably are but at the same time I feel people are over selling him here. He kept Wednesday up superbly when he joined, in was the worse start to a Championship season, but his first full season has just finished with Wednesday in 12th. He is fighting a lot of off field issues but it's not the first time a manager has had issues. There are more than Wednesday who are run badly. Personally I think it's a risk with Rohl only having one full season behind him and I think that's why he is linked with a lot of clubs but never seems to end up with the job. 

[JimJams]

Everyone is a risk.

But do you think it's better to take a risk on someone who is at the beginning of their career, presumably on an upward trajectory, risking if they can step up a level. Or risk a Dyche or even a Wilder, who have experienced promotion before, but are now still available at a level below where they've been previously operating, pointing to them either having reached their peak and plateauing around upper Championship level or are they at the lowest ebb of where they should be operating and they get back to where they once were, despite it being relatively fleeting?

[smudger63]

2 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

You're continuing to miss the point about Rohl.

Which is why I asked the question about "am I missing something".

I just don't see what the hype is about him. 

Someone mentioned about "How dare he not have a list of 10 previous management jobs", but that's the point.

He has very little experience to judge him from in terms of being a manager, which is very different from being a coach.

From the managerial experience he has had with Sheff Wednesday, which is all we can judge him on , he has been alright, but no more.

Yet from what I read on here, it's like he should be our number one target, but simply on the basis that he has kept Sheff Wednesday up.  This seemingly in spite of other championship clubs this summer replacing their manager, and yet shying away of taking a chance of Rohl themselves.

Maybe he is the second coming, and if he comes here, then of course I hope he is, but ive just not seen what others seem to have seen from him. 

So far no one has given a reason as to what he would bring to the club, other than he saved another club that is also a basket case of a club from relegation.

 

[Tommy Fresh]

7 minutes ago, smudger63 said:

Which is why I asked the question about "am I missing something".

I just don't see what the hype is about him. 

Someone mentioned about "How dare he not have a list of 10 previous management jobs", but that's the point.

He has very little experience to judge him from in terms of being a manager, which is very different from being a coach.

From the managerial experience he has had with Sheff Wednesday, which is all we can judge him on , he has been alright, but no more.

Yet from what I read on here, it's like he should be our number one target, but simply on the basis that he has kept Sheff Wednesday up.  This seemingly in spite of other championship clubs this summer replacing their manager, and yet shying away of taking a chance of Rohl themselves.

Maybe he is the second coming, and if he comes here, then of course I hope he is, but ive just not seen what others seem to have seen from him. 

So far no one has given a reason as to what he would bring to the club, other than he saved another club that is also a basket case of a club from relegation.

 

What did you think of the Maresca appointment?

[whoareyaaa]

Danny Röhl is known for his flexible tactical approach, often switching between formations like 3-4-2-1, 4-2-3-1, and 4-5-1, adapting to the opposition. His preferred starting shape is a 5-4-1, which can transition to a 3-4-3 when attacking, with wingers pushing up to support the striker. Röhl emphasizes high-intensity, high-tempo football with a strong emphasis on pressing and quick recoveries. 

 

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

• Tactical Flexibility:

  Röhl doesn't stick to one rigid system and frequently changes formations based on the opponent. 

   
• Starting Shape:

  A common starting point is a 5-4-1, utilizing wing-backs for width. 

   
• Attacking Transition:

  When in possession, the formation can shift to a 3-4-3, with wingers joining the attack. 

   
• Defensive Solidity:

  Röhl's teams are known for their defensive solidity and structured pressing. 

   
• High-Intensity Football:

  A key aspect of his tactics is high-tempo, high-energy football with a focus on quick transitions. 

   
• Adaptability:

  Röhl's adaptability allows him to exploit opponents' weaknesses and tailor his approach to each game. 

   
• Specific Examples:

  He has been observed using a narrow pressing group and focusing on attacking transitions when they win possession. 

   
• Emphasis on Details:

  Röhl focuses on the finer details of player positioning and movement, even within a short timeframe. 

Edited 21 June 2025 by whoareyaaa

[whoareyaaa]

3 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Danny Röhl is known for his flexible tactical approach, often switching between formations like 3-4-2-1, 4-2-3-1, and 4-5-1, adapting to the opposition. His preferred starting shape is a 5-4-1, which can transition to a 3-4-3 when attacking, with wingers pushing up to support the striker. Röhl emphasizes high-intensity, high-tempo football with a strong emphasis on pressing and quick recoveries. 

 

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

• Tactical Flexibility:

  Röhl doesn't stick to one rigid system and frequently changes formations based on the opponent. 

   
• Starting Shape:

  A common starting point is a 5-4-1, utilizing wing-backs for width. 

   
• Attacking Transition:

  When in possession, the formation can shift to a 3-4-3, with wingers joining the attack. 

   
• Defensive Solidity:

  Röhl's teams are known for their defensive solidity and structured pressing. 

   
• High-Intensity Football:

  A key aspect of his tactics is high-tempo, high-energy football with a focus on quick transitions. 

   
• Adaptability:

  Röhl's adaptability allows him to exploit opponents' weaknesses and tailor his approach to each game. 

   
• Specific Examples:

  He has been observed using a narrow pressing group and focusing on attacking transitions when they win possession. 

   
• Emphasis on Details:

  Röhl focuses on the finer details of player positioning and movement, even within a short timeframe. 

Sounds perfect for us tbh, with the use of wingers.. plus we get Chris Powel and Andy King as good staff... Could be something good esp considering we have a much better squad than Weds, seems more akin to Enzo but with less of the possession, passing et.c

Edited 21 June 2025 by whoareyaaa

[Lambert09]

I think he’d be the first actually pragmatic manager we’ve had in my lifetime. 
 

we’ve always asked for it but we’ve never actually had a manager that picks a team or shape based on the opposition and that in itself is exciting. A manager that sees somethings not working and switches rather than being stubborn has been sorely missed at this club.  When was the last time we had a manager that wouldn’t just wait until the 60th minute to make a sub ? 

Edited 21 June 2025 by Lambert09

[Claudio Fannieri]

I would imagine the ongoing issues at Sheff Wed add some complexity to the situation and potential negotiations as I would imagine the club have already or are very close to a material breach  of contract which may well deem Rohl is freed from his contract or at least certain release clauses could be deemed as unenforceable. 

[ceebeefox]

4 hours ago, smudger63 said:

So am i right, he has manged one club in his career, Sheff Wednesday, and his claim to fame is he has kept them up, in what is a weak and shite division.

In the mean time, Norwich have recently appointed Liam Manning, and Middlesbrough, having got rid of Carrick, decided to go for Rob Edwards who had took Luton down, both were linked with Rohl, but both went somewhere else.

Hull City have gone for Jakirovic after getting rid of Ruben Selles, and Sheff United have opted for Selles.

I know that Sheff Wednesday will want compo to get him out of the club, but certainly Boro, Norwich and Sheff United, will have all been able to pay that compo if they had deemed him good enough.

To be fair, i suppose this where we are at now, at a point where just a statistically average manager is seen at a great fit for us now.

It`s all so very sad.

Unless he’s been lined up since May? Other clubs would have to look elsewhere, and we are waiting until July?

[FrankieADZ]

1 minute ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

I would imagine the ongoing issues at Sheff Wed add some complexity to the situation and potential negotiations as I would imagine the club have already or are very close to a material breach  of contract which may well deem Rohl is freed from his contract or at least certain release clauses could be deemed as unenforceable. 

surely theyve got to be close now, its happened a couple of times before now too

[murphy]

34 minutes ago, smudger63 said:

Which is why I asked the question about "am I missing something".

I just don't see what the hype is about him. 

Someone mentioned about "How dare he not have a list of 10 previous management jobs", but that's the point.

He has very little experience to judge him from in terms of being a manager, which is very different from being a coach.

From the managerial experience he has had with Sheff Wednesday, which is all we can judge him on , he has been alright, but no more.

Yet from what I read on here, it's like he should be our number one target, but simply on the basis that he has kept Sheff Wednesday up.  This seemingly in spite of other championship clubs this summer replacing their manager, and yet shying away of taking a chance of Rohl themselves.

Maybe he is the second coming, and if he comes here, then of course I hope he is, but ive just not seen what others seem to have seen from him. 

So far no one has given a reason as to what he would bring to the club, other than he saved another club that is also a basket case of a club from relegation.

 

I think his first season resurrecting a dead and buried Wednesday side was miraculous.  He has also done well in his second season making that same Wednesday side competitive and achieving a mid table finish amid a backdrop of non-payment of wages and also plays attractive football.

 

None of this makes him the second coming and no one said that he was.  He is an up and coming manager with a good recent record.  All he has to be is better than the other uninspiring names that we have been linked with from Dyche to Martin.  If he were any more than that he wouldn't be an option for us. 

 

 

Edited 21 June 2025 by murphy

[Chelmofox]

22 minutes ago, smudger63 said:

Which is why I asked the question about "am I missing something".

I just don't see what the hype is about him. 

Someone mentioned about "How dare he not have a list of 10 previous management jobs", but that's the point.

He has very little experience to judge him from in terms of being a manager, which is very different from being a coach.

From the managerial experience he has had with Sheff Wednesday, which is all we can judge him on , he has been alright, but no more.

Yet from what I read on here, it's like he should be our number one target, but simply on the basis that he has kept Sheff Wednesday up.  This seemingly in spite of other championship clubs this summer replacing their manager, and yet shying away of taking a chance of Rohl themselves.

Maybe he is the second coming, and if he comes here, then of course I hope he is, but ive just not seen what others seem to have seen from him. 

So far no one has given a reason as to what he would bring to the club, other than he saved another club that is also a basket case of a club from relegation.

 

Is their anything about his style of play or approach you don't like. For example, despite getting promoted, it was well known what Russell Martin's style was and how he expected a team to play. Do you have these concerns about Rohl, or is it that he just hasnt been a major success somewhere.

 

One of the things you can look at is if a manager is under or over achieving with what he has at his disposal. We saw how he saved them last season (and i thought they were great when we played them when he was in charge). Transfermarkt state that Wednesday have the 4th cheapest squad in the leauge - https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/championship/marktwerteverein/wettbewerb/GB2. To be comfortably mid table, 10 point behinds the playoffs and mixing with Norwich, Watford and Middlesbrough, all of which have significantly more squad depth, shows how he has overachieved. I don't buy into the 'simply kept them up' point.

 

The big questions mark is how he deals with going up a level, which despite all our negativity the LCFC job will be. A Patson Daka costs more than their entire squad, and he has an elite academy at his disposal. Its a different prospect, so you would expect he would need to approach it differently?

[Gerard]

I've got a footballing knowledgeable friend who is a Sheff Wed fan and he thinks Rohl will go to the very top and end up somewhere like Atletico Madrid. He rates him very highly and says there is zero chance he stays at Wednesday next season and has done a great job with the tools at his disposal.

 

It's a huge YES for me just on that information.

 

Also he has a £5m release clause if he goes to a PL team and a £2.5m release clause to a Championship team. I'd like to think that the lack of Leicester manager news is because this is a done deal and Top will pull the trigger when we officially become a Championship club on the 1st July but who knows?

Edited 21 June 2025 by Gerard

[Claudio Fannieri]

Really hope the club have learnt from the Corberan fiasco of last season and not paying compensation. If Rohl is £2.5m then over a 3 year contract it’s £833k for PSR which is peanuts to pay who will lead your club. 

[Jazzy_Jeff]

17 minutes ago, Gerard said:

I've got a footballing knowledgeable friend who is a Sheff Wed fan and he thinks Rohl will go to the very top and end up somewhere like Atletico Madrid. He rates him very highly and says there is zero chance he stays at Wednesday next season and has done a great job with the tools at his disposal.

 

It's a huge YES for me just on that information.

 

Also he has a £5m release clause if he goes to a PL team and a £2.5m release clause to a Championship team. I'd like to think that the lack of Leicester manager news is because this is a done deal and Top will pull the trigger when we officially become a Championship club on the 1st July but who knows?

Pretty sure we’re officially an EFL club now. More likely due to new PSR year. 

[lcfcsnow]

5 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

Really hope the club have learnt from the Corberan fiasco of last season and not paying compensation. If Rohl is £2.5m then over a 3 year contract it’s £833k for PSR which is peanuts to pay who will lead your club. 

If we pay that for a manager we won't be able to offer a 3 year contract for the next BDCR, that's how this club works.

[LCFCJohn]

51 minutes ago, smudger63 said:

Which is why I asked the question about "am I missing something".

I just don't see what the hype is about him. 

Someone mentioned about "How dare he not have a list of 10 previous management jobs", but that's the point.

He has very little experience to judge him from in terms of being a manager, which is very different from being a coach.

From the managerial experience he has had with Sheff Wednesday, which is all we can judge him on , he has been alright, but no more.

Yet from what I read on here, it's like he should be our number one target, but simply on the basis that he has kept Sheff Wednesday up.  This seemingly in spite of other championship clubs this summer replacing their manager, and yet shying away of taking a chance of Rohl themselves.

Maybe he is the second coming, and if he comes here, then of course I hope he is, but ive just not seen what others seem to have seen from him. 

So far no one has given a reason as to what he would bring to the club, other than he saved another club that is also a basket case of a club from relegation.

 

That was me who made the comment about not having had a long list of previous jobs. And I was taking the piss of course.

 

You are basically writing him off because he hasn’t had loads of jobs and hasn’t already gone to another club.

 

He hasn’t had loads of jobs because he is very young.

 

And in terms of not having gone to other clubs. There’s a few reasons it could be. Maybe he hasn’t higher aspirations than some? Maybe they are looking at free options like Middlesbrough and Edwards. You mentioned Sheffield United. Of course Wednesday aren’t going to do business with United! And Norwich have gone for Manning who is from Norwich and a supporter of them. They are the only ones I think who have gone and got a manager in a job. And maybe the situation at Wednesday is just too complex for other clubs to deal with. It’s far too simplistic to look and say these clubs have gone new managers and it’s not Rohl so he can’t be any good.

 

In terms of what you are missing. You are calling his job at Wednesday just alright! This view suggests you are ignoring all context. The job he did to avoid relegation was phenomenal. Finishing 12th the next season was a good performance for a club with a largely league 1 squad, not being paid and a psychotic owner. Finishing 12th with Sheffield Wednesday is not compatible with other clubs. Finishing 12th with Leicester would be failure. Doing the same with Millwall for example would be ok, about par. And with that Wednesday side it was a great achievement.

 

Who would you want us to bring in? 

[smudger63]

9 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

Is their anything about his style of play or approach you don't like. For example, despite getting promoted, it was well known what Russell Martin's style was and how he expected a team to play. Do you have these concerns about Rohl, or is it that he just hasnt been a major success somewhere.

 

One of the things you can look at is if a manager is under or over achieving with what he has at his disposal. We saw how he saved them last season (and i thought they were great when we played them when he was in charge). Transfermarkt state that Wednesday have the 4th cheapest squad in the leauge - https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/championship/marktwerteverein/wettbewerb/GB2. To be comfortably mid table, 10 point behinds the playoffs and mixing with Norwich, Watford and Middlesbrough, all of which have significantly more squad depth, shows how he has overachieved. I don't buy into the 'simply kept them up' point.

 

The big questions mark is how he deals with going up a level, which despite all our negativity the LCFC job will be. A Patson Daka costs more than their entire squad, and he has an elite academy at his disposal. Its a different prospect, so you would expect he would need to approach it differently?

There isn't anything I have against Rohl as such.  I was just trying to work out what it was that others are seeing in him that I haven't been.

I've just looked at him as doing a decent job under difficult circumstances.

Nothing more than that.

I cant say I've been blown away on the very few occasions I've seen his Sheff Wednesday team play, but obviously he can only work with the quality of player he has at his disposal, so he may well be able to get more out of a better quality squad. 

If he does take over here, then of course, as with all new managers, time and reults will tell, and indeed, Enzo had less experience, and a poorer record than Rohl, when he took over, and although I personally found his football mind blowingly boring at times, no one can say he wasn't a success, so hopefully if Rohl does indeed take over, he will be as successful. 

[Jobyfox]

I do hope Rudkin is paying attention to what needs to be done to attract the right manager … 

[Chelmofox]

4 minutes ago, smudger63 said:

There isn't anything I have against Rohl as such.  I was just trying to work out what it was that others are seeing in him that I haven't been.

I've just looked at him as doing a decent job under difficult circumstances.

Nothing more than that.

I cant say I've been blown away on the very few occasions I've seen his Sheff Wednesday team play, but obviously he can only work with the quality of player he has at his disposal, so he may well be able to get more out of a better quality squad. 

If he does take over here, then of course, as with all new managers, time and reults will tell, and indeed, Enzo had less experience, and a poorer record than Rohl, when he took over, and although I personally found his football mind blowingly boring at times, no one can say he wasn't a success, so hopefully if Rohl does indeed take over, he will be as successful. 

I'm with you a bit there. With Maresca, his apprenticeship in a very successful Man City was the huge plus point that gave me some assurance that he could manage the expectations of managing us. I dont see that with Rohl. There is quite a lot of noise about him, and we would be a step up.

[FrankieADZ]

1 hour ago, smudger63 said:

Which is why I asked the question about "am I missing something".

I just don't see what the hype is about him. 

Someone mentioned about "How dare he not have a list of 10 previous management jobs", but that's the point.

He has very little experience to judge him from in terms of being a manager, which is very different from being a coach.

From the managerial experience he has had with Sheff Wednesday, which is all we can judge him on , he has been alright, but no more.

Yet from what I read on here, it's like he should be our number one target, but simply on the basis that he has kept Sheff Wednesday up.  This seemingly in spite of other championship clubs this summer replacing their manager, and yet shying away of taking a chance of Rohl themselves.

Maybe he is the second coming, and if he comes here, then of course I hope he is, but ive just not seen what others seem to have seen from him. 

So far no one has given a reason as to what he would bring to the club, other than he saved another club that is also a basket case of a club from relegation.

 

incredibly naive view this without actually looking deeper at things involving all the clubs and people mentioned

and people have mentioned what hed bring numerous times within this thread etc

 

 

[smudger63]

2 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

That was me who made the comment about not having had a long list of previous jobs. And I was taking the piss of course.

 

You are basically writing him off because he hasn’t had loads of jobs and hasn’t already gone to another club.

 

He hasn’t had loads of jobs because he is very young.

 

And in terms of not having gone to other clubs. There’s a few reasons it could be. Maybe he hasn’t higher aspirations than some? Maybe they are looking at free options like Middlesbrough and Edwards. You mentioned Sheffield United. Of course Wednesday aren’t going to do business with United! And Norwich have gone for Manning who is from Norwich and a supporter of them. They are the only ones I think who have gone and got a manager in a job. And maybe the situation at Wednesday is just too complex for other clubs to deal with. It’s far too simplistic to look and say these clubs have gone new managers and it’s not Rohl so he can’t be any good.

 

In terms of what you are missing. You are calling his job at Wednesday just alright! This view suggests you are ignoring all context. The job he did to avoid relegation was phenomenal. Finishing 12th the next season was a good performance for a club with a largely league 1 squad, not being paid and a psychotic owner. Finishing 12th with Sheffield Wednesday is not compatible with other clubs. Finishing 12th with Leicester would be failure. Doing the same with Millwall for example would be ok, about par. And with that Wednesday side it was a great achievement.

 

Who would you want us to bring in? 

If it is Rohl who comes in, then I'm not against it, I was just trying to get some sort of insight from others, as to their reasons for being so keen on him, and now a number of you have given me that, so I thank those that have, its been of interest to me.

As with all new managerial appointments it will be a gamble, if he does come in, but fingers crossed who ever comes in, is able to turn the shiteshow that the club has become around, on the pitch at least.

I have a horrible feeling  that the Shiteshow off the pitch is just going to continue though sadly.

 

[winteriscoming]

I think it would be great if we could get Rohl. But I do find it concerning that there was a few jobs going in the bundesliga and he didn’t get anywhere with them and then according to reports Middlesbrough wanted him. They’ve instead gone with Rob Edwards. Who is hardly in demand after what happened with Luton. 
Maybe he is holding out for the Leicester job I don’t know but I just think it seems strange no one else has gone for him. 

[FrankieADZ]

1 minute ago, winteriscoming said:

I think it would be great if we could get Rohl. But I do find it concerning that there was a few jobs going in the bundesliga and he didn’t get anywhere with them and then according to reports Middlesbrough wanted him. They’ve instead gone with Rob Edwards. Who is hardly in demand after what happened with Luton. 
Maybe he is holding out for the Leicester job I don’t know but I just think it seems strange no one else has gone for him. 

all the other clubs went for other managers, and maybe they felt he wasnt the right fit for them atm, given hes still inexperienced in managerial terms

were Boro after him? i dont think they was, they was sounding out a few candidates at the time and plumbed for Edwards