Bluearmyfox28 Posted 20 May 2025 Posted 20 May 2025 5 minutes ago, Pliskin said: Not defending the board for one minute. But this does all seem a bit sly and two bites of the same cherry? We’ve been cleared once, and now they’re coming back to counter our argument? This is where I’m at, are we being recharged for the same financial year we just cleared or a separate one? because if it’s the same year, I think we have a high success rate of winning the appeal if I’m being honest.
South Shire Fox Posted 20 May 2025 Posted 20 May 2025 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said: Wonder what Graham Brock has to say about this one …… 🤡🤡 The clubs unofficial arse licker Edited 20 May 2025 by South Shire Fox
Dames Posted 20 May 2025 Posted 20 May 2025 Just now, Bluearmyfox28 said: This is where I’m at, are we being recharged for the same financial year we just cleared or a separate one? because if it’s the same year, I think we have a high success rate of winning the appeal if I’m being honest. Its a different one and due to our first challenge the Prem and EFL aligned their rules to ensure they were in place for this next period, likely to catch us out. All we did was kick the can down the road. The punishment is going to be severe. 1
Les-TA-Jon Posted 20 May 2025 Posted 20 May 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pliskin said: Not defending the board for one minute. But this does all seem a bit sly and two bites of the same cherry? We’ve been cleared once, and now they’re coming back to counter our argument? No We likely (or did) breached in 22/23 (Rodgers relegation season), but relegation happened and we appealed and used the loophole to avoid PL charging us PL appealed our appeal - which today announced to be found in our favour - i.e upholding the loophole argument EFL tried to charge us for 22/23 during Championship season but we successfully argued we weren't under their jurisdiction We seemingly came close to breaching 23/24 (promotion season) but no one knew how close, and then in Jan 2025 PL announced that no clubs had breached. But we weren't charged at the time because it looks like we didn't submit our accounts on time and there was the outstanding appeal tribunal between us and PL PL are now saying we did breach during 23/24 (promotion season) and are charging us for breaching EFL PSR rules (PL rules were revised earlier this season to close jurisdiction loophole and to allow both leagues to charge clubs in either division for breaches in any season) Edited 20 May 2025 by Les-TA-Jon 2
Dahnsouff Posted 20 May 2025 Posted 20 May 2025 1 minute ago, Dames said: Its a different one and due to our first challenge the Prem and EFL aligned their rules to ensure they were in place for this next period, likely to catch us out. All we did was kick the can down the road. The punishment is going to be severe. Cue the “consistent and flagrant lack of adherence to and acknowledgement of the rules” by the EFL next season
BarringtonHayles Posted 20 May 2025 Posted 20 May 2025 So bored of people mentioning Man City. Man City didn’t force us to continuously spend big fees on players that offer nothing, they didn’t force us to offer ridiculous wages to players who would be lucky to get half what we pay at any other club. It’s not Man City’s fault that we continue to let players go on a free, it’s not their fault that we continue to be run by absolute amateurs. Yes, Man City should obviously be punished but that’s got nothing to do with us. Why do we continue to give the PL/EFL the opportunity to charge us in the first place. The rules are shit but we still have to follow them. 1
Les-TA-Jon Posted 20 May 2025 Posted 20 May 2025 1 hour ago, KFS said: Reminder to people that two things can be true at once… Our board is awful but these made up rules smack of them just wanting to get revenge for Di Marco making them look like a bunch of clowns We rightly exploited a loophole. The PL and EFL have rightly closed the loophole. What's the problem? The big question now is, now that the loophole is closed, can the PL/EFL retrospectively charged us for breaching, during a period in which the loophole existed?
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 20 May 2025 Posted 20 May 2025 1 minute ago, Les-TA-Jon said: We seemingly came close to breaching 23/24 (promotion season) but no one knew how close, and then in Jan 2025 PL announced that no clubs had breached. But we weren't charged at the time because it looks like we didn't submit our accounts on time and there was the outstanding appeal tribunal between us and PL PL are now saying we did breach during 23/24 (promotion season) and are charging us for breaching EFL PSR rules (PL rules were revised earlier this season to close jurisdiction loophole and to all both leagues to charge clubs in either division for breaches in any season) So how have they all of a sudden decided we did breach when previously cleared then? Am I missing something?
CUJimmy Posted 20 May 2025 Posted 20 May 2025 Cooperate fully, don’t try to find a loophole and take the punishment. Assuming it is a fairly hefty points deduction accept that we aren’t going to be challenging for promotion in the next couple of seasons at least and look to build a team around the very promising youngsters that we currently have while winding down the contracts on any remaining deadwood that we can’t shift. Is there a chance of being relegated again? It’s always possible but I would say highly unlikely given the standard of football in the lower half of the Championship. 1
Foxin_Mad Posted 20 May 2025 Posted 20 May 2025 Just now, BarringtonHayles said: So bored of people mentioning Man City. Man City didn’t force us to continuously spend big fees on players that offer nothing, they didn’t force us to offer ridiculous wages to players who would be lucky to get half what we pay at any other club. It’s not Man City’s fault that we continue to let players go on a free, it’s not their fault that we continue to be run by absolute amateurs. Yes, Man City should obviously be punished but that’s got nothing to do with us. Why do we continue to give the PL/EFL the opportunity to charge us in the first place. The rules are shit but we still have to follow them. I think the issue is they seem to be able to turn around cases quickly for the smaller clubs but apparently the city case takes about 3 years 1
Ricey Posted 20 May 2025 Posted 20 May 2025 1 minute ago, Les-TA-Jon said: No We likely (or did) breached in 22/23 (Rodgers relegation season), but relegation happened and we appealed and used the loophole to avoid PL charging us PL appealed our appeal - which today announced to be found in our favour - i.e upholding the loophole argument EFL tried to charge us for 22/23 during Championship season but we successfully argued we weren't under their jurisdiction We seemingly came close to breaching 23/24 (promotion season) but no one knew how close, and then in Jan 2025 PL announced that no clubs had breached. But we weren't charged at the time because it looks like we didn't submit our accounts on time and there was the outstanding appeal tribunal between us and PL PL are now saying we did breach during 23/24 (promotion season) and are charging us for breaching EFL PSR rules (PL rules were revised earlier this season to close jurisdiction loophole and to all both leagues to charge clubs in either division for breaches in any season) The PL didn’t say that no clubs breached for 23/24, as far as I remember. They said no one would be charged, but mentioned our ongoing tribunal case…which hinted at the fact we had breached, but can’t be charged until the tribunal is over. 1 2
Tommy G Posted 20 May 2025 Posted 20 May 2025 14 minutes ago, The Horse's Mouth said: Where did I put faith into him, I said he isn’t going to bankrupt the club as he keeps bankrolling his failures, I didn’t say the future is any brighter than that. And Top was quite involved with the club even when Vichai was alive, famously rehired Nigel Pearson . are you dense or what? But you did say he will get more than he bought the club for, well what Vichai paid, which is probably true but that's a naive argument at best. If you buy something for £20m, but have to put in £20m a season for 5 seasons then sell it for £40m you haven't doubled your money. This is what KP have done, but on a different timescale and monetary figures.
Tommy G Posted 20 May 2025 Posted 20 May 2025 So glad I've taken a step back from my season ticket - just another chapter of the shitshow thriller.
Les-TA-Jon Posted 20 May 2025 Posted 20 May 2025 Just now, Bluearmyfox28 said: So how have they all of a sudden decided we did breach when previously cleared then? Am I missing something? As I said, back in Jan 2025 the PL said that no clubs had breached. But our 'non-breach' at the time was clearly based on the fact that we hadn't submitted our accounts (so how could the PL know whether we had breached or not) and that there was outstanding legal challenges/appeals/tribunal between us and PL. Now that that's been resolved, they can now charge us and the PL alleges that we did indeed breach EFL PSR for the period ending 23/24. 1
South Shire Fox Posted 20 May 2025 Posted 20 May 2025 1 minute ago, CUJimmy said: Cooperate fully, don’t try to find a loophole and take the punishment. Assuming it is a fairly hefty points deduction accept that we aren’t going to be challenging for promotion in the next couple of seasons at least and look to build a team around the very promising youngsters that we currently have while winding down the contracts on any remaining deadwood that we can’t shift. Is there a chance of being relegated again? It’s always possible but I would say highly unlikely given the standard of football in the lower half of the Championship. Luton?
FoxesBraun Posted 20 May 2025 Posted 20 May 2025 1 minute ago, Foxin_Mad said: I think the issue is they seem to be able to turn around cases quickly for the smaller clubs but apparently the city case takes about 3 years Because City have been charged 115 times. We’ve only been charged once
AKCJ Posted 20 May 2025 Posted 20 May 2025 19 minutes ago, The Horse's Mouth said: Where did I put faith into him, I said he isn’t going to bankrupt the club as he keeps bankrolling his failures, I didn’t say the future is any brighter than that. And Top was quite involved with the club even when Vichai was alive, famously rehired Nigel Pearson . are you dense or what? There isn't a plethora of people willing to cover up the **** ups of Leicester City's boardroom by writing £100+ million cheques. If Top ****s off, we are ****ed. Our only hope is that if he does **** off, we've corrected the issues we currently have because as it currently stands we're relying totally on him bailing the club out by writing off our debt to him.
Twitcher Posted 20 May 2025 Posted 20 May 2025 How come the Premier League can get involved when the alleged offence was in the Championship?
jayfox26 Posted 20 May 2025 Posted 20 May 2025 There is only 1 winner in this constant battle against the PL and the EFL and that is Nick De Marco
HankMarvin Posted 20 May 2025 Posted 20 May 2025 7 minutes ago, moore_94 said: “We are bottom of the league we are bottom of the league”
Les-TA-Jon Posted 20 May 2025 Posted 20 May 2025 1 minute ago, Twitcher said: How come the Premier League can get involved when the alleged offence was in the Championship? Quote The Arbitration proceedings looked at (a) the Premier League’s jurisdiction to investigate an alleged breach by the club of the EFL’s P&S Rules for Season 2023/24; and (b) a previous Appeal Board decision regarding the League’s jurisdiction in respect of a breach of the Premier League’s Profitability and Sustainability Rules (PSR) for Season 2022/23. In summary: Regarding (a), the Tribunal decided that the Premier League has jurisdiction to investigate and refer the club to an independent Commission for an alleged breach of the EFL’s P&S Rules. The alleged breach relates to the assessment period concluding at the end of the 2023/24 season, when the club was a member of the EFL Championship. The Tribunal confirmed that the Premier League has the power to investigate an alleged breach of the P&S Rules because the EFL validly transferred responsibility for its investigation to the Premier League in June 2024, when the club was promoted from the Championship. The Premier League continues to have jurisdiction even though Leicester City will be relegated to the Championship at the end of this season. Regarding (b), the Premier League challenged, via Arbitration, an Appeal Board decision made in August 2024 (see here). The Appeal Board had ruled that the Premier League did not have jurisdiction to charge the club for an alleged breach of PSR. This was because the club was no longer a member of the League at the time of its accounting year-end date in 2023. The Appeal Board had overturned an earlier independent Commission decision that the Premier League did have jurisdiction (see here). While the Arbitration Tribunal decided that the Appeal Board was wrong, they found the Appeal Board’s decision was not a perverse interpretation of the law (which was the relevant test to overturn the decision), and therefore dismissed the Premier League’s claim.
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