Premier League has charged LCFC with an alleged breach of PSR

[Ric Flair]

2 minutes ago, CL Fox said:

Calm down - we're in a far better place than when King Power took over the club......right!?

Don't recall Mandaric's technique of launching cuddly bears in to grown men's arms as accurate as Aiyawatt's is. Privileged to have watched that, we do things differently here. Family club.

[stevostadium]

9 hours ago, 1972 Fox said:

When is our hearing actually starting?

 

Last week Percy reported it would be this week, so starting today/tomorrow? 

Starts today.

Outcome could be as late as Jan / Feb if we appeal i have been told.

[stevostadium]

However, in more promising news just had a text from LCFC stating Black Friday starts tomorrow!!!

Absolute shambles of a club

[CornwallFox]

8 minutes ago, stevostadium said:

However, in more promising news just had a text from LCFC stating Black Friday starts tomorrow!!!

Absolute shambles of a club

I mean there's plenty to complain about but I'm not sure having a black Friday sale is one of them 🤣

Edited 27 November 2025 by CornwallFox

[ClaphamFox]

10 minutes ago, stevostadium said:

Starts today.

Outcome could be as late as Jan / Feb if we appeal i have been told.

Really? I read somewhere it started on Monday and have been wondering how it's been going over the past few days. Feel a bit cheated now 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

12 hours ago, HankMarvin said:

Wyness believes a nine-point deduction could be imposed on the Foxes.

 

He told Football Insider‘s Inside Track podcast:

"it could be, it could be, if there, I’d expect, I don’t expect, If there, there may be, I think, I think, I expect them"

Cheers Keith! 

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

This has to be the final nail in the coffin for the clowns that run our club.

 

Busy at work, but have we been charged and punishment or push back to come? Interesting that the PL are meddling in the Championship jurisdiction - what right do they have? Hopefully we can contest it on that basis and De Marco can have a field day. But shouldn’t take away how embarrassing this is for the club. No doubt there is some statement being prepared about how they disagree with the outcome without recognising their own incompetent role in getting us here.

[ClaphamFox]

9 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Cheers Keith! 

A quick google search reveals that Keith Wyness has been opining on our PSR issues for many years. There are loads of articles of him going on about it. At various points he has predicted deductions of six points, nine points and "a minimum of 12 points". 

The only safe conclusion is that he literally has no idea. You could ask dog how many points we'll be deducted and take the number of times it barks as your answer, and it would be just as likely to come true as any prediction Wyness makes.

[Jon the Hat]

12 minutes ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

This has to be the final nail in the coffin for the clowns that run our club.

 

Busy at work, but have we been charged and punishment or push back to come? Interesting that the PL are meddling in the Championship jurisdiction - what right do they have? Hopefully we can contest it on that basis and De Marco can have a field day. But shouldn’t take away how embarrassing this is for the club. No doubt there is some statement being prepared about how they disagree with the outcome without recognising their own incompetent role in getting us here.

They changed the rules after our last legal win so that the EFL and Prem can each mete our the punishment for PSR breaches in the other league.  So the EL decide on the punishment, and the EFL can dock us points this season.

[Fox forever]

12 minutes ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

This has to be the final nail in the coffin for the clowns that run our club.

 

Busy at work, but have we been charged and punishment or push back to come? Interesting that the PL are meddling in the Championship jurisdiction - what right do they have? Hopefully we can contest it on that basis and De Marco can have a field day. But shouldn’t take away how embarrassing this is for the club. No doubt there is some statement being prepared about how they disagree with the outcome without recognising their own incompetent role in getting us here.

In May 25 Independent Commission adjudicated that LCFC came under the jurisdiction of the PL for period ending June 24. 
 

That’s why PL is involved and EFL are not 

[Fox forever]

3 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said:

They changed the rules after our last legal win so that the EFL and Prem can each mete our the punishment for PSR breaches in the other league.  So the EL decide on the punishment, and the EFL can dock us points this season.

They have changed rules as you say but after June 24 so question will be whether PL can push down any punishment when the rule didn’t exist when alleged offence occurred. 

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

12 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said:

They changed the rules after our last legal win so that the EFL and Prem can each mete out the punishment for PSR breaches in the other league.  So the EL decide on the punishment, and the EFL can dock us points this season.

I do recall that, but sounds grossly unfair in my view.

[Mike Oxlong]

It does make me feel a lot better that we’ve used the overspend wisely 

[Terraloon]

23 minutes ago, Fox forever said:

They have changed rules as you say but after June 24 so question will be whether PL can push down any punishment when the rule didn’t exist when alleged offence occurred. 

They  clarified the rule but the fact remains that the arbitration panel ruled that the PL did have jurisdiction to charge Leicester. The PL in effect won the argument re jurisdiction under the old rules it was that ruling that LCFC challenged and indeed the appeal panel agreed with LCFC . The ruling couldn’t change the 22/23 decision but going forward even using the old rules LCFC following the arbitration award LCFC were going to be charged
 

 

[LCFCJohn]

2 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

I think we run close to breaches for 24/25, 25/26 and every future year until we go bust.

It feels like this is a certainty and we are just waiting for it to come around so we can move forward.

 

And it doesn’t bother me. The club will still be there and the club is he community, not any owner, manager or player.

 

If you did one of them quadrant matrices for clubs that have got into bother by profile of club and end result, the biggest profile club I can think that has dropped furthest would be Bury. Portsmouth went to L2 and came back. Same for Bolton. I think there has been a few non-league clubs that have ceased to exist (Chester?) but nobody of our profile.

 

Whatever happens, I do not believe we will go out of business or cease existing. We may drop a couple of levels and have to come back with an administration to our name. 

[davieG]

1 hour ago, ClaphamFox said:

A quick google search reveals that Keith Wyness has been opining on our PSR issues for many years. There are loads of articles of him going on about it. At various points he has predicted deductions of six points, nine points and "a minimum of 12 points". 

The only safe conclusion is that he literally has no idea. You could ask dog how many points we'll be deducted and take the number of times it barks as your answer, and it would be just as likely to come true as any prediction Wyness makes.

 

How many points will LCFC get?

[Lad1966]

3 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

I think we run close to breaches for 24/25, 25/26 and every future year until we go bust.

I can see it for the 24/25 season, but not the 25/26 season - we taken loads of our wage bill, sold and got money for 4 /5 players. Bilal money won’t come in until next year, as well Vardy’s wages, and finally, we not spent a single penny in the 25/26 season! 

[davieG]

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[when_you're_smiling]

2 hours ago, CornwallFox said:

I mean there's plenty to complain about but I'm not sure having a black Friday sale is one of them 🤣

“To celebrate our impending points deduction we’ll offer a per cent off all items in the mega store for every point we’ll lose.”

[F T Fagos]

2 hours ago, ClaphamFox said:

A quick google search reveals that Keith Wyness has been opining on our PSR issues for many years. There are loads of articles of him going on about it. At various points he has predicted deductions of six points, nine points and "a minimum of 12 points". 

The only safe conclusion is that he literally has no idea. You could ask dog how many points we'll be deducted and take the number of times it barks as your answer, and it would be just as likely to come true as any prediction Wyness makes.

Thought I  might give this a go, and asked my dog about the impending points deduction .He just tilted his head and stared at me in a  way that suggested he thought I was demented. Clearly a smart boy then, so the fact that he didn't bark at all has to be a good thing, no?

[HankMarvin]

1 hour ago, Lad1966 said:

I can see it for the 24/25 season, but not the 25/26 season - we taken loads of our wage bill, sold and got money for 4 /5 players. Bilal money won’t come in until next year, as well Vardy’s wages, and finally, we not spent a single penny in the 25/26 season! 

Yet are carrying additional player’s salary from the last time we was in the champ and have 44m reduction in the 3 year cycle overall and a further 22m worse off since the last Championship season £61m

Edited 27 November 2025 by HankMarvin

[Ric Flair]

1 hour ago, Lad1966 said:

I can see it for the 24/25 season, but not the 25/26 season - we taken loads of our wage bill, sold and got money for 4 /5 players. Bilal money won’t come in until next year, as well Vardy’s wages, and finally, we not spent a single penny in the 25/26 season! 

It's the drop from £105m 3 year losses to £61m that is the issue. We'd likely need the full £105m to have not breached 24/25 (rather than £83m) but then that's a much bigger drop.

[AKCJ]

Any update on this? Thought we were supposed to get the deduction this week.

[ClaphamFox]

9 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

Any update on this? Thought we were supposed to get the deduction this week.

Copy this post and paste it back into this thread in late February.

[Terraloon]

41 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

It's the drop from £105m 3 year losses to £61m that is the issue. We'd likely need the full £105m to have not breached 24/25 (rather than £83m) but then that's a much bigger drop.

It is, Add to that certainly many of the basic costs won’t reduce. Things like utilities, like insurance, like business rates will remain pretty static and whilst debt interest to McQuire will probably drop that will be more to do with there will in all likelihood be a significant reduction in transfer income going forward .

 Whilst talking about income dropping broadcasting revenue will be reducing significantly as will commercial and sponsorship .

I have found it very difficult to get a true handle on the 24/25 numbers but it’s going to be very tight. But the 25/26 numbers which will be as you say £61m reducing will create even greater challenges as will the £ 39 million in 26/27.question will be whether PL can push down any punishment when the rule didn’t exist when alleged offence occurred. 

3 hours ago, Fox forever said:

 

 

Edited 27 November 2025 by Terraloon