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Posted
1 minute ago, Parafox said:

Not the PL or EFL though is it. That's no proof in any way.

It’s proof that it happens, no doubt in the PL as well it’s not that outlandish tbh

Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, StanSP said:

I'm no Chelsea fan but this is a joke lol

 

 

Something needs to be done about this repeated fouling, holding and blocking of players in the 6 yard box. If someone grabs a player and holds them back in open play, it's a foul and potentially a booking. Why is it allowed in front of goal?

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Posted
2 hours ago, jammie82uk said:

But VAR didn’t see that or show the referee that, they shown him flapping at the ball trying to catch it when every other time he has attempted to punch it away 

 

They did show that, though.

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'Consistency' is basically impossible to ever achieve. It's why VAR is a waste of time.

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Posted
1 hour ago, katieakita said:

Anyone able to post a video of the incident as you will see a number of fouls taking place the fact it took so long to come to a decision and no mention of looking at any number of other fouls will cause anger, this might win Arsenal the league but will also relegate West ham

 

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Posted
17 minutes ago, Dan said:

 

'Consistency' is basically impossible to ever achieve. It's why VAR is a waste of time.

West Ham themselves favored from a penalty not given against them the other week for example when their defender handled the ball in much the same way we have seen them penalized. 

Posted
9 minutes ago, Super_horns said:

West Ham themselves favored from a penalty not given against them the other week for example when their defender handled the ball in much the same way we have seen them penalized. 

That in itself is the problem though. And whoever this was against probably had the same happen for them etc..

 

I've never really believed "decisions even themselves out" and there is no doubt in my mind certain clubs do benefit. But **** me I think that myth was preferable to this garbage.

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If they insist on it, then as a minimum change wise, would imposing a “one minute decision” limit on VAR not improve things? 
 

If you can’t make a decision in one minute then the on field call stands. 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Dan said:

That in itself is the problem though. And whoever this was against probably had the same happen for them etc..

 

I've never really believed "decisions even themselves out" and there is no doubt in my mind certain clubs do benefit. But **** me I think that myth was preferable to this garbage.

Man U getting numerous dodgy penalty decisions to help them beat us to 4th in 2020 is the hill I will die on 

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I expect that PGMOL will reference the persistent shirt holding on Raya as the primary offence 

 

the grabbing of the left bicep as the ball came to raya was also pretty damning. My initial meh assessment of the incident was only based on the arm across his chest/neck.  

Posted
11 minutes ago, AjcW said:

If they insist on it, then as a minimum change wise, would imposing a “one minute decision” limit on VAR not improve things? 
 

If you can’t make a decision in one minute then the on field call stands. 

I think the lengthy review today was based on them looking at other possible offences to check if anything had occurred before the foul on raya. 

Posted
5 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

I think the lengthy review today was based on them looking at other possible offences to check if anything had occurred before the foul on raya. 

Did well to miss Declan Rice then holding the guy, if there is no contact with Reya and Wilson misses that is a penalty every day of the week but took so long to come to a decision

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9 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

I think the lengthy review today was based on them looking at other possible offences to check if anything had occurred before the foul on raya. 

Yep, but if they can’t do what they need to do within a minute, they’ve gone too far back or are looking for something that isn’t clear and obvious. 

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22 minutes ago, AjcW said:

If they insist on it, then as a minimum change wise, would imposing a “one minute decision” limit on VAR not improve things? 
 

If you can’t make a decision in one minute then the on field call stands. 

I've no idea why these decisions take so long. It was clear Raya was being impeded, it should not take that long. The bigger issue is the many other instances of holding within the area. If the ball had been nowhere near Raya and Rice's holding had stopped his opponent, would that have been referred? Or do we just let everyone get on with it and make it a free for all?

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If Var didn't exist, other than Arsenal fans no one would have even mentioned that Raya was supposedly fouled. It would have just looked a scrappy goal. It feels like official's are trying to find fault with goals hence why there spending so much time. 

 

As someone mentioned above VAR needs to have time capped. 60 seconds to find the problem. If no issue with the original decision then go with it and play on. 

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1 hour ago, katieakita said:

Did well to miss Declan Rice then holding the guy, if there is no contact with Reya and Wilson misses that is a penalty every day of the week but took so long to come to a decision

I think they said on Sky the VAR told the ref that foul on Raya came first but they did seem to take a long time so not an obvious error I guess?

 

And as we can see proved to be very divided which so many VAR decisions are .

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2 hours ago, st albans fox said:

I expect that PGMOL will reference the persistent shirt holding on Raya as the primary offence 

 

the grabbing of the left bicep as the ball came to raya was also pretty damning. My initial meh assessment of the incident was only based on the arm across his chest/neck.  

Seen a screenshot shared online, yes it looks pretty damming and that a foul is committed on Raya, interestingly tho in the screenshot Trossard is clearly holding the player while facing the opposite direction seemingly with no intention of playing the ball and the same West Ham player is having his shirt pulled by a different Arsenal player 

 

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