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4 hours ago, leicsmac said:

With all of this said, what exactly is the best feasible outcome and how might be be achieved?

It basically all depends on Trump right? If he decides to heavily arm Ukraine tomorrow (he won’t), it could halt the Russians in their tracks. If the status quo continues, Russians slowly take more and more of the oblasts that they’re illegally occupying while killing more Russian and Ukrainian men, destroying both countries futures. You can see why it’s tempting from European leaders view to keep this going on. The longer it keeps going, the longer it’ll take Russia to re arm, the quicker NATO can get ahead and deter anything too wild. The idea that Ukraine will take back the Donbass or even Crimea is pie in the sky stuff short of a NATO intervention and civilisation ending nuclear warfare. 

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1 minute ago, Dahnsouff said:

Rational, realistic, even likely, bit the sad thing is people are learning to accept such injustices. Being proved rght is not the same as being moral.

I’ve made it clear so many times on here that morals get us nowhere in this world. Sadly the strongest win, and we’re slowly wising up to this. Thankfully Putin is an idiot who is destroying is countries future. 

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1 minute ago, Lionator said:

I’ve made it clear so many times on here that morals get us nowhere in this world. Sadly the strongest win, and we’re slowly wising up to this. Thankfully Putin is an idiot who is destroying is countries future. 

True, but as I said, acceptance.

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8 minutes ago, Lionator said:

I’ve made it clear so many times on here that morals get us nowhere in this world. Sadly the strongest win, and we’re slowly wising up to this. Thankfully Putin is an idiot who is destroying is countries future. 

 

6 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

True, but as I said, acceptance.

The only thing we should be wising up to is the fact that in a world where the strongest (read; most violent) win, their victory is both illusory and short-lived.

 

Spoiler; in the end, in that world, no one wins. 

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Lionator said:

Careful, this rational and realistic view will get you cancelled on this forum. 

Mate you unironically called Britain a liberal dictatorship and  doommongered that “we need a war to reindusteualise” and endlessly flip-flip from Russia is going to roll through Europe, war is inevitable one day to Putin has destroyed his country and Russia is pathetic so we don’t need to fear them the next… and yet you’re posting on here as normal completely uncancelled.

 

I say this in genuine good faith - no one has cancelled you or wants to cancel you, I get the feeling that you’ve probably been on Reddit or somewhere similar too much and to speculate (again genuinely not in a non-mean way) guess by your posts you also might be on the autistic spectrum and so get way too into thinking about the war as a kind of historic narrative like how we talk about a war from 100s of years ago nowadays, rather than the lives of people who are having the houses bombed and families murdered; please don’t go down the rabbit hole of “everyone is out to get me and trying to cancel me”, that’s exactly what algorithms are designed to do to keep people engaged and what gets people to end up voting nutters like Putin or Trump in power, because they constantly play into that feeling and tell people that everyone else is out to get them and they are the only person who can save them.

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1 hour ago, Noahfence said:

The concept of being cancelled on Foxestalk 

It's happened before

Posted
59 minutes ago, Lionator said:

The new release of Epstein files doesn’t make good reading for fans of Bill Clinton. Imagine 2 of your last 5 presidents being wronguns.

Hopefully both of them end up answering in full for it. 

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Just proves what power brings you.

Us minions can cuss, get angry etc but nothing we say or do will  ever change as there is so much corruption  and power at the top.

 

Its utterly vile

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37 minutes ago, Raj said:

Just proves what power brings you.

Us minions can cuss, get angry etc but nothing we say or do will  ever change as there is so much corruption  and power at the top.

 

Its utterly vile

It is vile.

 

But a rather cold comfort is that such systems cannot and do not last forever. These people are, after all, only human. 

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21 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

It is vile.

 

But a rather cold comfort is that such systems cannot and do not last forever. These people are, after all, only human. 

To be replaced with humans.

Posted
3 hours ago, Raj said:

Just proves what power brings you.

Us minions can cuss, get angry etc but nothing we say or do will  ever change as there is so much corruption  and power at the top.

 

Its utterly vile

Speaking of corruption

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