General News Thread

[South Shire Fox]

2 hours ago, grth2004 said:

Sure it’s lovely in Dubai apart from you live under Sharia Law 

So not safe if your Gay as it’s illegal and you will be jailed. 
 

Not safe if you have an affair you get

locked up.

 

Sexual activity outside marriage is criminal and can lead to prison sentence. 

Sounds lovely but if you have loads of money and don’t want to pay tax in UK 🇬🇧 then it’s paradise. 

Of course, but then you wouldnt move to the Middle east if you were gay though would you? Its a country with Islamic ideology 😂.

 

I imagine the attraction is the day to day life stuff. I.e not having to worry about being stabbed walking down a busy street because someone likes the look of your watch. Not having to look out the window every morning to see whether your car is still on the drive. Not seeing some scruff walk into a shop and just load up their pockets with products before walking out and not paying. No litter on the floor and people having respect for their communities. 
 

If someone has done well for themselves and they want to take their family to somewhere that they think offers a better quality of life then its entirely up to them. The UK quality of life has been going down hill rapidly for years. 

 

 

[Tommy G]

13 minutes ago, South Shire Fox said:

Of course, but then you wouldnt move to the Middle east if you were gay though would you? Its a country with Islamic ideology 😂.

 

I imagine the attraction is the day to day life stuff. I.e not having to worry about being stabbed walking down a busy street because someone likes the look of your watch. Not having to look out the window every morning to see whether your car is still on the drive. Not seeing some scruff walk into a shop and just load up their pockets with products before walking out and not paying. No litter on the floor and people having respect for their communities. 
 

If someone has done well for themselves and they want to take their family to somewhere that they think offers a better quality of life then its entirely up to them. The UK quality of life has been going down hill rapidly for years. 

 

 

Agree with this, it's just too hot June - Oct unless you want to live with A/C constantly. I'd find it really difficult for anyone to sell the UK as a more desirable location, it's just a dump and will get worse.

 

RE the gay part, one of my mates and his husband went to Abu Dhabi for a week over the Feb half term and no issues, I mean they weren't dry humping in the street but it would of been quite obvious to hotel staff and the general public they were gay, they managed to get home without being beheaded. 

[leicsmac]

21 minutes ago, South Shire Fox said:

Of course, but then you wouldnt move to the Middle east if you were gay though would you? Its a country with Islamic ideology 😂.

 

I imagine the attraction is the day to day life stuff. I.e not having to worry about being stabbed walking down a busy street because someone likes the look of your watch. Not having to look out the window every morning to see whether your car is still on the drive. Not seeing some scruff walk into a shop and just load up their pockets with products before walking out and not paying. No litter on the floor and people having respect for their communities. 
 

If someone has done well for themselves and they want to take their family to somewhere that they think offers a better quality of life then its entirely up to them. The UK quality of life has been going down hill rapidly for years. 

 

 

But then, as previously mentioned, it's very easy for such quality of life to turn, as current events show. 

 

Just shows that foresight, and perhaps a little humility, matters. 

[danny.]

21 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

But then, as previously mentioned, it's very easy for such quality of life to turn, as current events show. 

 

Just shows that foresight, and perhaps a little humility, matters. 

Who needs to be humble? And show foresight how? Are you talking about people that moved to Dubai that now might be injured or killed because of events likely out of their control? I'm a bit confused what point you are making here.

[grth2004]

29 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Agree with this, it's just too hot June - Oct unless you want to live with A/C constantly. I'd find it really difficult for anyone to sell the UK as a more desirable location, it's just a dump and will get worse.

 

RE the gay part, one of my mates and his husband went to Abu Dhabi for a week over the Feb half term and no issues, I mean they weren't dry humping in the street but it would of been quite obvious to hotel staff and the general public they were gay, they managed to get home without being beheaded. 

I mainly laugh at the people who say there’s too many Muslims taking over the country and making it a dump to them move to a Muslim country. 
 

it’s a free world and you can move where ever you want but living in some fake AC controlled climate with a country that hate gay  people and lock you up for having a few too many beers or snogging in the streets is not for me. 
 

Each to their own and I hope you get to your paradise. 🐪 

[Foxdiamond]

51 minutes ago, South Shire Fox said:

Of course, but then you wouldnt move to the Middle east if you were gay though would you? Its a country with Islamic ideology 😂.

 

I imagine the attraction is the day to day life stuff. I.e not having to worry about being stabbed walking down a busy street because someone likes the look of your watch. Not having to look out the window every morning to see whether your car is still on the drive. Not seeing some scruff walk into a shop and just load up their pockets with products before walking out and not paying. No litter on the floor and people having respect for their communities. 
 

If someone has done well for themselves and they want to take their family to somewhere that they think offers a better quality of life then its entirely up to them. The UK quality of life has been going down hill rapidly for years. 

 

 

I do despair when some people here have so little regard for their environment outside of what belongs to them personally. Litter on the streets. Idiots that actually visit the countryside because it is beautiful but think it acceptable to leave their detritus behind. We really need to educate about this. Also that shoplifting has been allowed to escalate has been a major blunder.

[MaidstoneFox]

30 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

But then, as previously mentioned, it's very easy for such quality of life to turn, as current events show. 

 

Just shows that foresight, and perhaps a little humility, matters. 

Possibly a movement back to London, which has traditionally provided a haven during times of turbulence. 

 

Whatever the negatives of the UK, it provides economic, political and environmental stability.

[leicsmac]

22 minutes ago, danny. said:

Who needs to be humble? And show foresight how? Are you talking about people that moved to Dubai that now might be injured or killed because of events likely out of their control? I'm a bit confused what point you are making here.

The people waxing lyrical about how much better Dubai is as a place to live than the UK, when such things can change so quickly, as we're seeing. The events are of course outside their control (and as I've mentioned before, I have family out there too), but that doesn't mean it shouldn't have been considered and perhaps factored into such viewpoints before making them. 

 

The point is that some of these folks should actually engage all of their brain before making statements that can come back to bite them. 

 

 

9 minutes ago, MaidstoneFox said:

Possibly a movement back to London, which has traditionally provided a haven during times of turbulence. 

 

Whatever the negatives of the UK, it provides economic, political and environmental stability.

And a lack of much in the way of natural or artificial disaster, too. 

 

For the time being anyway. 

[danny.]

13 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

The people waxing lyrical about how much better Dubai is as a place to live than the UK, when such things can change so quickly, as we're seeing. The events are of course outside their control (and as I've mentioned before, I have family out there too), but that doesn't mean it shouldn't have been considered and perhaps factored into such viewpoints before making them. 

 

The point is that some of these folks should actually engage all of their brain before making statements that can come back to bite them. 

 

 

And a lack of much in the way of natural or artificial disaster, too. 

 

For the time being anyway. 

I'm still really confused - so according to your claim:

- Person X moves from Location A to Location B.

- Person X says that Location B provides a much better standard of life for them than Location A - quoting things like better crime metrics, cleanliness, tax rates, etc. + anything else they consider is better.

- Location B then is affected by extraordinary circumstances no one could have reasonably foreseen.

This means Person X should have had better foresight? Seems like you require people to have fortune telling skills. Not sure what the humility has to do with anything either.

[Detroit Blues]

19 hours ago, MPH said:

 

right I get all that. But why is he doing this? What’s the reason?

 

who is it aimed towards?  The more I’m thinking about it, I think it’s aimed towards our allies in the area.. those that are being attacked in the area that host American/British airbases.. if they can be convinced this is a war, they might somehow be willing to participate?

 

he’s not going to win Dems support and he got elected by promising his MAGA that there will be no long term wars so it serves no national purpose to keep banding that word around.. I’m really not sure but I can only guess it’s for an international audience 

We're not talking about the Epstein files right now, or how the economy is in the shitter, so it is doing its intended job. Trump can cosplay as a war-time leader and talk about how he deposed Maduro and Khamenei.

[leicsmac]

34 minutes ago, danny. said:

I'm still really confused - so according to your claim:

- Person X moves from Location A to Location B.

- Person X says that Location B provides a much better standard of life for them than Location A - quoting things like better crime metrics, cleanliness, tax rates, etc. + anything else they consider is better.

- Location B then is affected by extraordinary circumstances no one could have reasonably foreseen.

This means Person X should have had better foresight? Seems like you require people to have fortune telling skills. Not sure what the humility has to do with anything either.

Not clairvoyance as such, but perhaps a little more understanding of the place that they've moved to and the fact that it's not very far from, shall we say, a very politically active location which has been such for decades or more. 

 

I'm not sure how much clearer that be be made so I'm going to leave it at that, and people are of course at liberty to disagree with the viewpoint that some people who go on about how much a place is better than the UK perhaps should have added a caveat or two to their remarks.

 

 

[CornwallFox]

50 minutes ago, danny. said:

I'm still really confused - so according to your claim:

- Person X moves from Location A to Location B.

- Person X says that Location B provides a much better standard of life for them than Location A - quoting things like better crime metrics, cleanliness, tax rates, etc. + anything else they consider is better.

- Location B then is affected by extraordinary circumstances no one could have reasonably foreseen.

This means Person X should have had better foresight? Seems like you require people to have fortune telling skills. Not sure what the humility has to do with anything either.

For once I'm going to side with you on this one 😱😬🤒

 

My only observation is that Richard Tice has moved his family to Dubai, splits his time between there and the UK, and I'd suggest does that solely to stay in politics here, then spends his time trying to affect this country. Just go live in Dubai, it's borderline foreign interference. 

[leicsmac]

55 minutes ago, Detroit Blues said:

We're not talking about the Epstein files right now, or how the economy is in the shitter, so it is doing its intended job. Trump can cosplay as a war-time leader and talk about how he deposed Maduro and Khamenei.

After saying, repeatedly and at length, that he would not get involved in wars as his predecessors did. 

[Izzy]

2 hours ago, Tommy G said:

I mean they weren't dry humping in the street but it would of been quite obvious to hotel staff and the general public they were gay, they managed to get home without being beheaded. 

[danny.]

44 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

For once I'm going to side with you on this one 😱😬🤒

Wow, you'll be joining Reform and the KKK next

[Vowels]

I read the news today, oh boy. 

 

We certainly live in 'interesting' times.

[Stevosevic]

3 hours ago, South Shire Fox said:

Of course, but then you wouldnt move to the Middle east if you were gay though would you? Its a country with Islamic ideology 😂.

 

I imagine the attraction is the day to day life stuff. I.e not having to worry about being stabbed walking down a busy street because someone likes the look of your watch. Not having to look out the window every morning to see whether your car is still on the drive. Not seeing some scruff walk into a shop and just load up their pockets with products before walking out and not paying. No litter on the floor and people having respect for their communities. 
 

If someone has done well for themselves and they want to take their family to somewhere that they think offers a better quality of life then its entirely up to them. The UK quality of life has been going down hill rapidly for years. 

 

 

It’s safe because they don’t entertain taking in the people that are forced upon us in the UK.

 

 

 

[Dr Marco]

[hejammy]

25 minutes ago, Stevosevic said:

It’s safe because they don’t entertain taking in the people that are forced upon us in the UK.

 

 

 

I mean - you do realise that a lot of the people who don't make it safe to walk down the street at night are born and raised "Brits" right? - It is safe because the law dictates, it basically says - live by the law of the land otherwise we will "royally f you up" - a 16 lad from Leicester can more or less do what he wants here and all that will happen will be a "lad please don't do that again" telling off 

[MPH]

2 hours ago, Detroit Blues said:

We're not talking about the Epstein files right now, or how the economy is in the shitter, so it is doing its intended job. Trump can cosplay as a war-time leader and talk about how he deposed Maduro and Khamenei.

 

 

i find it it very hard to reconcile his desire to take us out of a rules based world order with his desire for the Nobel peace prize

[hejammy]

7 hours ago, grth2004 said:

Sure it’s lovely in Dubai apart from you live under Sharia Law 

So not safe if your Gay as it’s illegal and you will be jailed. 
 

Not safe if you have an affair you get

locked up.

 

Sexual activity outside marriage is criminal and can lead to prison sentence. 

Sounds lovely but if you have loads of money and don’t want to pay tax in UK 🇬🇧 then it’s paradise. 

I wonder if you have ever been or have just got this visualisation of what it is like? - my bet is the latter

[leicsmac]

10 minutes ago, MPH said:

 

 

i find it it very hard to reconcile his desire to take us out of a rules based world order with his desire for the Nobel peace prize

It helps when you look at it from the viewpoint that it isn't about the Peace Prize per se, it's about being "better" than his predecessor.

 

He feels stuck in Obama's shadow in terms of popularity, adulation and legacy and he hates every second of it. 

[Tommy G]

3 hours ago, grth2004 said:

I mainly laugh at the people who say there’s too many Muslims taking over the country and making it a dump to them move to a Muslim country. 
 

it’s a free world and you can move where ever you want but living in some fake AC controlled climate with a country that hate gay  people and lock you up for having a few too many beers or snogging in the streets is not for me. 
 

Each to their own and I hope you get to your paradise. 🐪 

I get the impression you've never been.

 

I didn't mention Muslims so I have no idea why you've brought that up, I've found the Muslim culture in the UAE to be very pleasant.

 

I'm not ''getting to my paradise'' I'm pointing out life is less stressful compared to when you are walking the streets full of crime, litter everywhere, people stabbing each other, when is the next tax rise round the corner, a shambolic health system etc etc etc

[MPH]

5 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

It helps when you look at it from the viewpoint that it isn't about the Peace Prize per se, it's about being "better" than his predecessor.

 

He feels stuck in Obama's shadow in terms of popularity, adulation and legacy and he hates every second of it. 

yeah that’s   Quite accurate I think.

 

it’s all very egotistical. But to be fair the whole of the American political system is. Everyone is just so power hungry. It’s not just the republicans. If you watch a party nomination debate they will absolutely tear each other to shreds,  bring up every minute piece of dirt, publish any article on how they spoke to a waitress sharply one time all done publicly just to secure the party nomination. So in the style of George Orwell and in the case of Trump, all American politicians are egotistical but some are more egotistical than others. It will never cease to be a culture shock for me.

[leicsmac]

38 minutes ago, MPH said:

yeah that’s   Quite accurate I think.

 

it’s all very egotistical. But to be fair the whole of the American political system is. Everyone is just so power hungry. It’s not just the republicans. If you watch a party nomination debate they will absolutely tear each other to shreds,  bring up every minute piece of dirt, publish any article on how they spoke to a waitress sharply one time all done publicly just to secure the party nomination. So in the style of George Orwell and in the case of Trump, all American politicians are egotistical but some are more egotistical than others. It will never cease to be a culture shock for me.

Oh yeah, that's accurate too. It's a ridiculous bearpit.

 

But that being said, there's differences in policy in terms of direct and indirect harm caused that should be considered, too.