General News Thread

[CornwallFox]

56 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

I get the impression you've never been.

 

I didn't mention Muslims so I have no idea why you've brought that up, I've found the Muslim culture in the UAE to be very pleasant.

 

I'm not ''getting to my paradise'' I'm pointing out life is less stressful compared to when you are walking the streets full of crime, litter everywhere, people stabbing each other, when is the next tax rise round the corner, a shambolic health system etc etc etc

I think we do need to recognise that 20 years ago the country was in a much better state. Immigration isn't the driver for the change, austerity is - together with all its knock on effects - but immigration has proven a useful thing to blame for those that peddled austerity. This country isn't going to get any better until we start redirecting the economy to work for ordinary people. 

[oxford blue]

4 hours ago, danny. said:

And show foresight how? Are you talking about people that moved to Dubai that now might be injured or killed because of events likely out of their control? I'm a bit confused what point you are making here.

I think it reasonable that someone emigrating to another country researches such a decision thoroughly. It is clear that the Middle East has been a volatile region for well over a century, but consider UAE in last 10 years

• The Yemen War & Houthi Attacks: The UAE was a key part of the Saudi-led coalition in Yemen against Houthi rebels starting in 2015. This engagement led to direct security threats. In early 2022, Houthi rebels launched drone and missile attacks targeting the UAE capital, Abu Dhabi, including an attack near a fuel depot that killed three people.
• Iran Tensions: The UAE has faced indirect threats due to rising tensions between the US/Saudi Arabia and Iran. This included maritime security incidents in the Gulf and attacks on shipping vessels.
• Drone and Missile Attacks: Following the 2022 attacks, the U.S. had to send fighter jets to assist the UAE in defending against Houthi threats.

Of course, if someone chooses to re-locate to a region in turmoil, certain risks should have been part of that decision, even if an event is outside their control. Do you ever avoid certain areas/locations in this country because of the risk to your personal safety, even if outside your control. Or, if you were wealthy enough, would it be sensible to openly display this, perhaps while carrying a top of the range apple phone, in London - if you were mugged, it would be outside your control but would you bear any responsibility?

[StanSP]

2 hours ago, Stevosevic said:

It’s safe because they don’t entertain taking in the people that are forced upon us in the UK.

 

 

 

Ah yes, because they're the only ones that make people feel unsafe. 

 

How can you tell, as you walk down the street, who makes you safe or unsafe, and how can you tell whether they're British or not or 'forced upon us or not'...? 

[CornwallFox]

7 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Ah yes, because they're the only ones that make people feel unsafe. 

 

How can you tell, as you walk down the street, who makes you safe or unsafe, and how can you tell whether they're British or not or 'forced upon us or not'...? 

Let's be honest, the answer to the question who makes the world feel unsafe is arsehole blokes. Wherever they're from. Look at the state of England football fans abroad - vast majority decent men and women you be fine around - a % are utter scum you'd not like standing next to yourself, let alone your mum/girlfriend/daughter 

[grth2004]

1 hour ago, hejammy said:

I wonder if you have ever been or have just got this visualisation of what it is like? - my bet is the latter

Worked in Middle East my friend, Qatar mainly so I get the just of it over there. 

[grth2004]

1 hour ago, hejammy said:

I wonder if you have ever been or have just got this visualisation of what it is like? - my bet is the latter

Do you disagree then with my points about it being illegal to be gay and have sex outside marriage, I can show you loads of stories where people have been locked up for ridiculous things. 
I worked in Qatar and can tell you some horror stories there where people have been treated horrendously. 

[foxes1988]

So we're finally sending a Type 45 down to med to protect our bases. Should have sent one a week ago.

 

Our military desperately needs money now. Hope Labour do decide to send the extra  money early to MoD as we can't go on like this

[CosbehFox]

2 hours ago, Stevosevic said:

It’s safe because they don’t entertain taking in the people that are forced upon us in the UK.

 

 

 

Well they do - they just make them slaves 

[st albans fox]

He’s really cross about Diego Garcia 

 

he’s babbling on about the lease but fundamentally he’s pissed that we didn’t allow them to use the base at the weekend. 

he's onto Kahn and sharia courts now …….

Edited 3 March by st albans fox

[danny.]

2 hours ago, oxford blue said:

I think it reasonable that someone emigrating to another country researches such a decision thoroughly. It is clear that the Middle East has been a volatile region for well over a century, but consider UAE in last 10 years

• The Yemen War & Houthi Attacks: The UAE was a key part of the Saudi-led coalition in Yemen against Houthi rebels starting in 2015. This engagement led to direct security threats. In early 2022, Houthi rebels launched drone and missile attacks targeting the UAE capital, Abu Dhabi, including an attack near a fuel depot that killed three people.
• Iran Tensions: The UAE has faced indirect threats due to rising tensions between the US/Saudi Arabia and Iran. This included maritime security incidents in the Gulf and attacks on shipping vessels.
• Drone and Missile Attacks: Following the 2022 attacks, the U.S. had to send fighter jets to assist the UAE in defending against Houthi threats.

Of course, if someone chooses to re-locate to a region in turmoil, certain risks should have been part of that decision, even if an event is outside their control. Do you ever avoid certain areas/locations in this country because of the risk to your personal safety, even if outside your control. Or, if you were wealthy enough, would it be sensible to openly display this, perhaps while carrying a top of the range apple phone, in London - if you were mugged, it would be outside your control but would you bear any responsibility?

Thanks for pasting all that.
 

Not sure I agree that Dubai is “a region in turmoil”, certainly not before the last few days. Obviously there are wider issues in the region with groups like the Houthis, but Dubai itself has been pretty stabl

Edited 3 March by danny.

[leicsmac]

22 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

He’s really cross about Diego Garcia 

 

he’s babbling on about the lease but fundamentally he’s pissed that we didn’t allow them to use the base at the weekend. 

he's onto Kahn and sharia courts now …….

I really hope that sometime soon someone in the UK diplomatic corps has the courage to sacrifice their job and tells him to fvck off. With numerous references to Epstein for good measure. Directly to his face. 

 

They would be a hero. 

Edited 3 March by leicsmac

[Robo61]

4 hours ago, leicsmac said:

Not clairvoyance as such, but perhaps a little more understanding of the place that they've moved to and the fact that it's not very far from, shall we say, a very politically active location which has been such for decades or more. 

 

I'm not sure how much clearer that be be made so I'm going to leave it at that, and people are of course at liberty to disagree with the viewpoint that some people who go on about how much a place is better than the UK perhaps should have added a caveat or two to their remarks.

 

 

I'd wager half the people who move there couldn't point to Dubai on a map let alone have an inkling on how close it is to Iran,  Israel etc.  

[Bellend Sebastian]

Telegraph admonished by press regulator for publishing total bollocks: 

 

https://pressgazette.co.uk/the-wire/newspaper-corrections-media-mistakes-errors-legal/telegraph-declines-to-tell-regulator-how-fake-banker-story-got-published/

 

I've full confidence that they won't do that again

[MPH]

1 hour ago, foxes1988 said:

So we're finally sending a Type 45 down to med to protect our bases. Should have sent one a week ago.

 

Our military desperately needs money now. Hope Labour do decide to send the extra  money early to MoD as we can't go on like this

 

yeah that’s a bit of Trump spitting his dummy out there, I think. It’s all very confusing, but I think they were going to originally protect more of the airspace but when they understood we were only allowing our bases to be used for defensive purposes ( destroying ballistic missile sights and launchers) instead of government buildings and infrastructure as Trump wanted to use them for, he objected to that. He came out and said he was “ very unhappy with the UK” today during a public meeting with the German chancellor.

 

hes such a baby.

[Lionator]

Merz is a total disgrace here btw. Enabling such childish, pathetic behaviour while subserving his formerly independent country into a vassal of Trump’s tantrums and wet dreams of himself. 

[leicsmac]

10 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Merz is a total disgrace here btw. Enabling such childish, pathetic behaviour while subserving his formerly independent country into a vassal of Trump’s tantrums and wet dreams of himself. 

How incredibly disappointing. (Unless Merz is playing some ridiculous metagame that no one else can figure out.)

[MPH]

So Irans assembly of experts ( who are appointed by the ayotollah)  met today to vote on and appointed the next ayotollah. Israel found out where and bombed them.

 

 

thats 100% the type of targeted attack I can get behind.

[CornwallFox]

35 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Merz is a total disgrace here btw. Enabling such childish, pathetic behaviour while subserving his formerly independent country into a vassal of Trump’s tantrums and wet dreams of himself. 

 

24 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

How incredibly disappointing. (Unless Merz is playing some ridiculous metagame that no one else can figure out.)

Yep, despite the right trying to claim otherwise, starmar actually standing up to trump is a very good look for him

[Nalis]

Thoughts and prayers for all the tax dodgers in Dubai

[Parafox]

24 minutes ago, Nalis said:

Thoughts and prayers for all the tax dodgers in Dubai

Death to the infidels

[Lionator]

1 hour ago, leicsmac said:

How incredibly disappointing. (Unless Merz is playing some ridiculous metagame that no one else can figure out.)

Nope, Merz is a gigantic loser. Thankfully Macron has come out against this tonight which helps Starmer too. 

[whoareyaaa]

Starmer is basically Biden in disguise.

[leicsmac]

56 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Nope, Merz is a gigantic loser. Thankfully Macron has come out against this tonight which helps Starmer too. 

Hopefully there will be more, too. Honestly didn't expect Merz to cave like that. 

 

Just now, whoareyaaa said:

Starmer is basically Biden in disguise.

I'm wondering exactly how that's a negative at this point in time and on the current pressing matter. 

[Zear0]

2 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Starmer is basically Biden in disguise.

What does that even mean?

[whoareyaaa]

Just now, leicsmac said:

Hopefully there will be more, too. Honestly didn't expect Merz to cave like that. 

 

I'm wondering exactly how that's a negative at this point in time and on the current pressing matter. 

He’s the one of the problems