General News Thread

[Parafox]

2 hours ago, Sampson said:

But you can’t even do that anymore because technology and AI affects every career on earth and changes every 5 years that has meant no career is long-term viable and university riddles you with so much extra debt the more you earn that getting a good education doesn’t pay anymore. 5-10 years ago everyone was told to train and go into engineering and data analysis and all those jobs will now be gone from AI within less than a decade.
 

Not to mention every job and cv has AI screening and is just about having a few key words on your cv nowadays
 

I see my niece and nephew and wonder what the hell kind of jobs and education opportunities are even going to be left for them in the future. 

So glad I'm retired and out of this minefield. I cant imagine how stressful and difficult it must be for our young graduates, or anybody trying to find a job that isn't Deliveroo, JustEat etc or McDonalds.

It was difficult back in the day when I was out of work and I had to do some "course" in order to claim the "unemployment benefit".

The trouble was, the courses never led to employment. In my case, sewing machine repair and maintenance. Utterly pointless. Even though I learnt how to file a block of iron into a perfect cube. I've used that skill.... never.

Edited 9 May by Parafox

[Claridge]

5 hours ago, LCFCJohn said:

I think a lot of that generation, I include my own parents, had things very easy. They grew up in the 70’s and entered the workforce/housing ladder in the 80’s and fit the stereotypical boomers getting everything easily like career progression and lack of having to worry about constant restructures like we do now. My in-laws of the same generation are much more modest in terms of their working lives and property.

 

When the Brexit vote was approaching, my in-laws said to my wife and I, what do you want us to do. It’s your future and we want to make sure we do what will benefit you. They voted remain as did my wife and I. We had researched into it and knew it’d be a disaster. My parents voted leave for no other apparent reason than immigration….

 

It’s so refreshing you are concerned about those younger than you that will have to deal with the consequences. Good on you 

people in the 70s and 80s wanted to better themselves by working hard, current bunch of drips whining about mental heath and blaming everyone but themselves are the problem

[leicsmac]

21 minutes ago, Claridge said:

people in the 70s and 80s wanted to better themselves by working hard, current bunch of drips whining about mental heath and blaming everyone but themselves are the problem

Nothing like a bit of Social Darwinism for a Saturday evening. 

[CornwallFox]

3 hours ago, Claridge said:

people in the 70s and 80s wanted to better themselves by working hard, current bunch of drips whining about mental heath and blaming everyone but themselves are the problem

Absolute nonsense. 

I'm not young, I'm mid forties.

Men in the 70s and 80s went to work and had a stay at home wife. In a normal blue collar job they earnt enough, in a sensible amount of hours, to run a house and take a fortnight holiday in Spain. 

That is a thousand million miles away from the experience of young workers now, who have it far harder in terms of work that pays, the fact both adults now work and can't have a fortnight abroad, the fact they can't afford a house, or kids, or anything much.

You need to open your eyes to the world.

[Jattdogg]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/09/frontier-airlines-plane-hits-pedestrian-denver

 

The fuk is happening in America.

[LCFCJohn]

6 hours ago, Claridge said:

people in the 70s and 80s wanted to better themselves by working hard, current bunch of drips whining about mental heath and blaming everyone but themselves are the problem

FYI, I never said anything about the 70’s. I was talking mid-80’s and 90’s. I was born early 90’s and I just think the 90’s into the 00’s was the best decade and for those building their adult lives, careers and families during that time as well. 
 

I agree with you about mental health being an issue. But things like social media/AI are a massive reason for problems with mental health. I’m pleased to have been the last generation to really have a proper childhood without it all but it nowadays makes parenting a completely different ball game to our parents in the 90’s/00’s.

 

The point at hand, during the mid-80’s/90’s and into the 00’s up until the crash around 07, working hard gave you much better rewards in terms of career progression, property and overall financial health (as I witnessed with my own family) than it does now. We work just as hard as our parents did but getting to the points in our careers we have now has been a real effort due to the competition for roles and the expectations of employers. For example, certain skills they expect you to have without being willing to give you a chance such as line management. Where are you going to develop that skill when you can’t get the opportunity to?

 

Every generation has its challenges but I know which one I’d have liked to be to have had the most rounded and least challenging time…

[Claridge]

4 hours ago, CornwallFox said:

Absolute nonsense. 

I'm not young, I'm mid forties.

Men in the 70s and 80s went to work and had a stay at home wife. In a normal blue collar job they earnt enough, in a sensible amount of hours, to run a house and take a fortnight holiday in Spain. 

That is a thousand million miles away from the experience of young workers now, who have it far harder in terms of work that pays, the fact both adults now work and can't have a fortnight abroad, the fact they can't afford a house, or kids, or anything much.

You need to open your eyes to the world.

you conveniently ignore all the things people have today that admittedly cost a fortune.people never had anywhere near what people have today , open your eyes and have a look

[kenny]

4 hours ago, CornwallFox said:

Absolute nonsense. 

I'm not young, I'm mid forties.

Men in the 70s and 80s went to work and had a stay at home wife. In a normal blue collar job they earnt enough, in a sensible amount of hours, to run a house and take a fortnight holiday in Spain. 

That is a thousand million miles away from the experience of young workers now, who have it far harder in terms of work that pays, the fact both adults now work and can't have a fortnight abroad, the fact they can't afford a house, or kids, or anything much.

You need to open your eyes to the world.

I'm mid forties too.

 

The life you describe does not reflect mine growing up at all. Both parents worked, fortnight holiday in a mates caravan each year, money was tight all the time growing up.

 

Some of my most distinct memories as a child was ripping school trousers my mum couldn't afford to replace or losing a calculator and having to go without one.

 

The utopia you describe doesn't match with the reality.

[Mike Oxlong]

Strikes me as odd the number of people that have relatively modest incomes that shell out big amounts on their car 

[Zear0]

Can’t even send children down the pit nowadays. Woke culture has ruined this generation.

Edited 10 May by Zear0

[leicsmac]

14 minutes ago, Zear0 said:

Can’t even send children down the pit nowadays. Woke culture has ruined this generation.

I know, right?

 

Generations before suffered horribly so every generation that comes after should suffer too because that's somehow fair. No room for any kind of human progress at all...

 

... right?

[LCFCJohn]

22 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

I know, right?

 

Generations before suffered horribly so every generation that comes after should suffer too because that's somehow fair. No room for any kind of human progress at all...

 

... right?

Plus the timeframe being talked about was more the mid-80’s and 90’s when mining had stopped so all this mention of pits and the 70’s is actually far from the point as that is the generation before the one being discussed who did have it tougher. 

[leicsmac]

2 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

Plus the timeframe being talked about was more the mid-80’s and 90’s when mining had stopped so all this mention of pits and the 70’s is actually far from the point as that is the generation before the one being discussed who did have it tougher. 

That's fair. 

 

Though tbh I think in this case the mentality is more important than the exact generation of the person holding it. Pseudo-Calvinist, pseudo-stoic bollocks about life being suffering that no generation should get away from is so inexplicable and frustrating. It's held back efforts to actually make the world a better place for everyone for centuries.

[davieG]

I repeat

 

All generations have there ups and downs and relative to their time in history and will have suffered it's not something new just different.

 

Some parts will be better some aspects will be harder

[leicsmac]

5 minutes ago, davieG said:

I repeat

 

All generations have there ups and downs and relative to their time in history and will have suffered it's not something new just different.

 

Some parts will be better some aspects will be harder

Absolutely, there is always going to be challenges of different types - some expected, some not. 

 

The problem here is the entire mentality of thinking problems of the present and future don't matter and shouldn't be addressed because problems of the past were worse and so the present has to experience such hardship similarly. 

 

That's just allowing suffering for some perverse sake of self-justification to me. 

[davieG]

1 minute ago, leicsmac said:

Absolutely, there is always going to be challenges of different types - some expected, some not. 

 

The problem here is the entire mentality of thinking problems of the present and future don't matter and shouldn't be addressed because problems of the past were worse and so the present has to experience such hardship similarly. 

 

That's just allowing suffering for some perverse sake of self-justification to me. 

The future like the past will present problems never experienced before and potentially worse than ever. Certainly worse than today.

 

The late 50s (post war) to today even has seen the UK through one of it's most peaceful eras that seems unlikely to continue with the rise of the personality despots not making life any easier.

 

I'm sure younger people of today feel hard done to but I fear more for my grandchildren just starting Uni and what the future holds for them.

 

[Sampson]

30 minutes ago, davieG said:

The future like the past will present problems never experienced before and potentially worse than ever. Certainly worse than today.

 

The late 50s (post war) to today even has seen the UK through one of it's most peaceful eras that seems unlikely to continue with the rise of the personality despots not making life any easier.

 

I'm sure younger people of today feel hard done to but I fear more for my grandchildren just starting Uni and what the future holds for them.

 

Yes, plus AI technology which humans don’t understand how it works and the ageing population - huge issues humanity has never faced before in its existence . And I still think a lot of issues and mental health problems ultimately come down to the internet creating a society which is much less social when human brains are evolutionary wired to crave social situations they way we are evolutionary wired to crave food, because that’s what helped us survive, working with and caring for other humans around us. 
 

I too fear more of the world the children today will grow up in, and what it will look like in the 2050s or 2060s

Edited 10 May by Sampson

[leicsmac]

7 minutes ago, davieG said:

The future like the past will present problems never experienced before and potentially worse than ever. Certainly worse than today.

 

The late 50s (post war) to today even has seen the UK through one of it's most peaceful eras that seems unlikely to continue with the rise of the personality despots not making life any easier.

 

I'm sure younger people of today feel hard done to but I fear more for my grandchildren just starting Uni and what the future holds for them.

 

No disagreement there.

 

The last couple of centuries have had the luxury of practically unlimited natural vital resources being available to anyone who could exploit them (the problems have always been ones of greed and distribution, not availability.)

 

In a few decades time, that may well no longer be the case. So as well as all of the very human troubles, the natural world is going to place trouble of its own that will be far larger - and the human response to that may well be very predictable. And this will, in all likelihood happen in the lifetime of people alive today - and perhaps in the lifetime of contributors on this very forum.

[kenny]

43 minutes ago, davieG said:

I repeat

 

All generations have there ups and downs and relative to their time in history and will have suffered it's not something new just different.

 

Some parts will be better some aspects will be harder

Said as someone that is loaded enough to afford the WiFi package in order to post that from their 4th cruise so far this year?

[CornwallFox]

2 hours ago, Claridge said:

you conveniently ignore all the things people have today that admittedly cost a fortune.people never had anywhere near what people have today , open your eyes and have a look

People then had the equivalent for the time. You sound like you have zero clue what it's like to be young today but are full of bile towards younger people. You are wrong. All of the statistics say you're wrong. Personal experience shows you're wrong. I'd suggest you try to look open minded at the world as it is today. 

[Trav Le Bleu]

39 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

People then had the equivalent for the time. You sound like you have zero clue what it's like to be young today but are full of bile towards younger people. You are wrong. All of the statistics say you're wrong. Personal experience shows you're wrong. I'd suggest you try to look open minded at the world as it is today. 

Aye Obadiah...

 

 

[Raj]

3 hours ago, kenny said:

I'm mid forties too.

 

The life you describe does not reflect mine growing up at all. Both parents worked, fortnight holiday in a mates caravan each year, money was tight all the time growing up.

 

Some of my most distinct memories as a child was ripping school trousers my mum couldn't afford to replace or losing a calculator and having to go without one.

 

The utopia you describe doesn't match with the reality.

I'll have abit of this!!

I'm 55 born n bred in lestah, both parents had to work, crappy factory jobs being immigrants.

Holidays? Yeah right🤣

Car? Yeah you guessed Datsun sunny.

House- 3 bed terraced off Uppingham Rd.

Branded clothes? 🤣🤣Hand me downs

School buses? 🤣 walk to school no matter what.

Games- play outside until dark.

 

Nowadays parents have the kids, waste money on cars, 90 inch TVs, lips, nails, stone island, all the games consoles, Instagram perfect life but dont have the mentality  to skrimp and save.

Most kids have probably been to more holidays by 9 years age than our generation  had in our teens.

Most things on credit and all tge fancy cars on monthly payments.

 

Yes the housing is a massive issue but let's not pretend it wasnt hard in our era.

 

This generation  is entitled and want everything on a plate.

 

I'm generalizing I know but you get my drift

Edited 10 May by Raj

[st albans fox]

23 minutes ago, Raj said:

I'll have abit of this!!

I'm 55 born n bred in lestah, both parents had to work, crappy factory jobs being immigrants.

Holidays? Yeah right🤣

Car? Yeah you guessed Datsun sunny.

House- 3 bed terraced off Uppingham Rd.

Branded clothes? 🤣🤣Hand me downs

School buses? 🤣 walk to school no matter what.

Games- play outside until dark.

 

‘You were lucky ‘

[Zear0]

28 minutes ago, Raj said:

I'll have abit of this!!

I'm 55 born n bred in lestah, both parents had to work, crappy factory jobs being immigrants.

Holidays? Yeah right🤣

Car? Yeah you guessed Datsun sunny.

House- 3 bed terraced off Uppingham Rd.

Branded clothes? 🤣🤣Hand me downs

School buses? 🤣 walk to school no matter what.

Games- play outside until dark.

 

Nowadays parents have the kids, waste money on cars, 90 inch TVs, lips, nails, stone island, all the games consoles, Instagram perfect life but dont have the mentality  to skrimp and save.

Most kids have probably been to more holidays by 9 years age than our generation  had in our teens.

Most things on credit and all tge fancy cars on monthly payments.

 

Yes the housing is a massive issue but let's not pretend it wasnt hard in our era.

 

This generation  is entitled and want everything on a plate.

 

I'm generalizing I know but you get my drift

Were you happy?

[kenny]

26 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

‘You were lucky ‘

I wanted to reply with @Raj had clothes??? His house had a roof???

 

Flash f*ucker