General News Thread

[Bellend Sebastian]

3 hours ago, leicsmac said:

It is darkly interesting to see how crime figures across the board have fallen over the last 30 years, yet folks still believe that things have actually gotten worse - as the below graph indicates. 

 

It's a tremendous example of how massive information exposure today can shape people's opinions, making problems either bigger or smaller than they actually are - and, sadly, be used to manipulate in various ways. 

 

Recency bias and survivorship bias with respect to the past clearly play a part, too.

 

 

That's all very well Mac but show me your graph of levels of people saying 'everything is broken', that would be OFF THE SCALE

[Zear0]

Just to make today even more chaotic following the domestic issues...

 

 

[davieG]

Tit for Tat politics

 

I wonder who the biggest Tit is?

[Bellend Sebastian]

4 minutes ago, Zear0 said:

Just to make today even more chaotic following the domestic issues...

 

 

And our compact friend Stephen Yaxley-Lennon has apparently been in Moscow meeting Elon Musk's Dad in I expect a very patriotic way, it really is all happening

[leicsmac]

2 minutes ago, Bellend Sebastian said:

That's all very well Mac but show me your graph of levels of people saying 'everything is broken', that would be OFF THE SCALE

Well, judging by the reaction I got here to posting reasonably hard numbers, I think you've got a point there. 

 

Still, it's hardly the only area where perception appears to override fact. 

 

1 minute ago, Zear0 said:

Just to make today even more chaotic following the domestic issues...

 

 

Ah, yes. 

 

The poster child for the above sentiment of perception overriding fact and its consequences. 

[DennisNedry]

4 hours ago, leicsmac said:

It is darkly interesting to see how crime figures across the board have fallen over the last 30 years, yet folks still believe that things have actually gotten worse - as the below graph indicates. 

 

It's a tremendous example of how massive information exposure today can shape people's opinions, making problems either bigger or smaller than they actually are - and, sadly, be used to manipulate in various ways. 

 

Recency bias and survivorship bias with respect to the past clearly play a part, too.

 

 

Are the above trends replicated in violent crime statistics?

 

How much of the decrease has came about due to the continued underfunding of the Police, meaning that the statistics are now artificially low?

[leicsmac]

4 minutes ago, DennisNedry said:

Are the above trends replicated in violent crime statistics?

 

How much of the decrease has came about due to the continued underfunding of the Police, meaning that the statistics are now artificially low?

Yes (I can provide further data if needed), and that is a variable that could apply at any time and so I don't think it can really be held as significant, in that order.

[JonnyBoy]

1 minute ago, DennisNedry said:

Are the above trends replicated in violent crime statistics?

 

How much of the decrease has came about due to the continued underfunding of the Police, meaning that the statistics are now artificially low?

Bang on. All petty crime is rarely reported these days. Don’t even see coppers patrolling the streets 

 

I am sure there is more violent knife crime in the last ten years than 30 years ago, and victims are getting younger. 
 

You hear about “we used to play out til 10pm in the good old days and never worry” now you need eyes in the back of your head wondering if you will get jumped 

 

Proper punishment is in the bin now as well, everyone plays the mental health card, look at the case with those poor uni students from Nottingham, can you imagine the horror the families are still enduring 

 

we are just a soft, pamper to the left, sad country now. No wonder child birth rates have plummeted can you blame people not bringing kids into this world 

 

But don’t worry, social media magnifies issues and crime isn’t bad or out of control. Move on

[leicsmac]

10 minutes ago, JonnyBoy said:

Bang on. All petty crime is rarely reported these days. Don’t even see coppers patrolling the streets 

 

I am sure there is more violent knife crime in the last ten years than 30 years ago, and victims are getting younger. 
 

You hear about “we used to play out til 10pm in the good old days and never worry” now you need eyes in the back of your head wondering if you will get jumped 

 

Proper punishment is in the bin now as well, everyone plays the mental health card, look at the case with those poor uni students from Nottingham, can you imagine the horror the families are still enduring 

 

we are just a soft, pamper to the left, sad country now. No wonder child birth rates have plummeted can you blame people not bringing kids into this world 

 

But don’t worry, social media magnifies issues and crime isn’t bad or out of control. Move on

Not going to comment on this other than the bolded:

 

You certainly can't blame people for not wanting to bring kids into the world at the moment, but that's probably for the best because the same powerful people who don't mind the idea of massive ethnic conflict also don't care about forthcoming resource shortages caused by the way the Earth is changing that will help lead to exactly that.

 

People really are picking the wrong targets for the way the world is. But so it goes. 

Edited 17 minutes ago by leicsmac

[JonnyBoy]

1 hour ago, Bellend Sebastian said:

That's all very well Mac but show me your graph of levels of people saying 'everything is broken', that would be OFF THE SCALE

I have absolutely no tolerance for abhorrent scenes of violence like this on our streets. - that was Kier Starmers tweet earlier 

 

Another day, another horrific subhuman act on our streets, & another tweet condemning it. Before it happens again