General News Thread

[leicsmac]

1 hour ago, StanSP said:

Ironic these neanderthals care more about painting flags on a road as opposed to campaigning for better services that will actually help them as well as others... 

 

It's all so narrow-minded, as per. 

They're fuelled by people who have them wrapped around their little fingers and to do their fighting for them, as per... 

It's all so deeply depressing. 

 

We are all, at the end of the day, human beings, with more than enough problems generated by the world we live in to make more among ourselves.

[Trav Le Bleu]

I don't know why we don't have some kind of detention/processing camp.

 

It doesn't have to be like a concentration camp and it doesn't have to be luxury. Within the camp you could even have grades of accommodation to reward those more willing to work for it. Those who look after their gaff well get processed quicker and more likely to be successful.Those who don't get sent home quickly.

 

The camp could have shops, basic leisure facilities, health care, enough to live a basic decent life. The government could even break even on it, at least reduce costs.

 

It would also make it easier to assess each application, contain trouble makers. Genuine applications would surely readily agree to this, so anyone found away from said institution - immediate deportation. I'm not saying they can't ever leave the camp, but whilst being processed, this is their home.

 

Of course it's not perfect, but it seems to me to be a lot better than shacking up in hotels.

 

Or am I being too sensible?

 

[bovril]

I think what we're seeing in England is like a cruder, uglier version of what has happened north of the border. Britishness has been weakened due to many factors, not least privatisation, and so there's been a reemergence of national identity in the constituent countries. Reminds me of what happened in Yugoslavia with the English as the Serbs obviously, simultaneously promoting their own aggressive form of national identity but also anxious about losing their influence over the other nations. 

[CornwallFox]

21 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

I don't know why we don't have some kind of detention/processing camp.

 

It doesn't have to be like a concentration camp and it doesn't have to be luxury. Within the camp you could even have grades of accommodation to reward those more willing to work for it. Those who look after their gaff well get processed quicker and more likely to be successful.Those who don't get sent home quickly.

 

The camp could have shops, basic leisure facilities, health care, enough to live a basic decent life. The government could even break even on it, at least reduce costs.

 

It would also make it easier to assess each application, contain trouble makers. Genuine applications would surely readily agree to this, so anyone found away from said institution - immediate deportation. I'm not saying they can't ever leave the camp, but whilst being processed, this is their home.

 

Of course it's not perfect, but it seems to me to be a lot better than shacking up in hotels.

 

Or am I being too sensible?

 

The hotels only exist because the Tories stopped processing and caused a backlog. In the process they signed contracts with hotels until 2029 so we're paying for them now either way. 

Better to spend the extra money on more staff to increase processing numbers, and also to allow them to work in prescribed jobs to effectively pay for their keep. 

[leicsmac]

21 minutes ago, bovril said:

I think what we're seeing in England is like a cruder, uglier version of what has happened north of the border. Britishness has been weakened due to many factors, not least privatisation, and so there's been a reemergence of national identity in the constituent countries. Reminds me of what happened in Yugoslavia with the English as the Serbs obviously, simultaneously promoting their own aggressive form of national identity but also anxious about losing their influence over the other nations. 

That seems accurate.

 

And now the focus should perhaps switch to how to mitigate such an issue before it ends as it always does - with unnecessary loss of life and suffering.

[bovril]

4 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

That seems accurate.

 

And now the focus should perhaps switch to how to mitigate such an issue before it ends as it always does - with unnecessary loss of life and suffering.

UN peace keeping troops in Tamworth

[leicsmac]

2 minutes ago, bovril said:

UN peace keeping troops in Tamworth

That would be morbidly hilarious tbh. 

 

But, in all seriousness, perhaps the people who want to burn down a place holding asylum seekers might have more success next time, or the time after that. 

[ithuriel]

Seen on FB theres a massive fire at A.E.Burgess a waste pile fire.

[Zear0]

15 minutes ago, ithuriel said:

Seen on FB theres a massive fire at A.E.Burgess a waste pile fire.

Saw a huge plume of smoke when driving back from Stoneygate about 11. Wasn't sure of source but was clearly a biggy.

[ithuriel]

8 minutes ago, Zear0 said:

Saw a huge plume of smoke when driving back from Stoneygate about 11. Wasn't sure of source but was clearly a biggy.

There were pics on FB, was certainly a good blaze 

[leicsmac]

... ah, and apparently the word of the day today is... "mishap".

 

Of course, tragic "mishaps" happen, right?

[Bordersfox]

23 hours ago, Lionator said:

Pretty despondent at the state of things at the moment.

 

Angela Rayner getting a lot of heat for purchasing a second home (not a third, she has a flat that all non London MP’s get). Is this not the Thatcherite, neo-liberal dream? A woman from a deprived Manchester council estate making it to the top of the political system, investing her wealth into property?? She maybe should’ve just stayed in her lane all along like all the other peasants.

 

And then all of this flag nonsense, if only people had the same energy to do something in their local communities that would make meaningful difference. 

Was down in Essex this weekend to see family and Basildon was covered in flags, unsurprisingly.  

 

Apart from all the stuff you mention I vehemently object to the English flag being appropriated by the far right. 

 

I consider myself a patriot and for all its many faults I'm proud of being British and English and will often spend my holidays at museums etc. exploring that history.  To be appalled by the sight of an English flag is something I resent at a base level. Hollow tokenism.   

 

Dog whistling politicians like Farage are deeply unpatriotic and would happily sell the entire country to China and retire to the British Virgin Islands (where many of them  hide their money as is to avoid paying tax towards...you know defence budgets amongst other things these clowns spank themselves over).  

Edited 25 August 2025 by Bordersfox

[Parafox]

5 minutes ago, Bordersfox said:

Was down in Essex this weekend to see family and Basildon was covered in flags, unsurprisingly.  

 

Apart from all the stuff you mention I violently object to the English flag being appropriated by the far right. 

 

I consider myself a patriot and for all its many faults I'm proud of being British and English and will often spend my holidays at museums etc. exploring that history.  To be appalled by the sight of an English flag is something I resent at a base level. Hollow tokenism.   

 

Dog whistling politicians like Farage are deeply unpatriotic and would happily sell the entire country to China and retire to the British Virgin Islands (where many of them  hide their money as is to avoid paying tax towards...you know defence budgets amongst other things these clowns spank themselves over).  

 

I assume you meant vehemently.

Edited 25 August 2025 by Parafox

[leicsmac]

Oh, and the powers that be seem unhappy that the South Koreans didn't let Yoon impose martial law.

 

Possibly because those same powers are already liking and testing the idea themselves. 

[leicsmac]

2 minutes ago, Parafox said:

 

I assume you meant vehemently.

Unfortunately, it may end up coming to violence in order to neutralise the danger to the future represented by these parties. 

 

I really, really hope not though. 

[Bordersfox]

5 minutes ago, Parafox said:

 

I assume you meant vehemently.

Violently object is (I think?) violent in the metaphorical sense and well understood to be so.  Another more powerful way of saying strongly.  If I am wrong I'll happily edit my post!  

 

Edit in fact I'll edit to avoid doubt.

Edited 25 August 2025 by Bordersfox

[Parafox]

7 minutes ago, Bordersfox said:

Violently object is (I think?) violent in the metaphorical sense and well understood to be so.  Another more powerful way of saying strongly.  If I am wrong I'll happily edit my post!  

 

Edit in fact I'll edit to avoid doubt.

 

No need to edit based on this, except maybe the bit in bold:

 

To "violently object" means to oppose something with intense, physical, or strong emotional force, often involving great energy, destructive behaviour, or a fierce, unyielding manner.

The expression signifies a very strong disagreement, so intense that it resembles a physical assault, a sudden outburst of rage, or an uncontrollable display of emotion. 

 

Or 

 

To "vehemently object" means to express strong, forceful, and passionate opposition or disapproval, leaving no doubt about the speaker's intense feelings on the matter. The adverb "vehemently" describes doing something with great energy and emotion, similar to how a person might argue passionately against a plan or deny allegations vigorously. 

 

I think the second example is more accurate.

Edited 25 August 2025 by Parafox

[Bordersfox]

1 minute ago, Parafox said:

 

No need to edit based on this, except maybe the bit in bold:

 

To "violently object" means to oppose something with intense, physical, or strong emotional force, often involving great energy, destructive behaviour, or a fierce, unyielding manner.

The expression signifies a very strong disagreement, so intense that it resembles a physical assault, a sudden outburst of rage, or an uncontrollable display of emotion. 

Edited it now, probably reduces the chance it will be disappeared anyway 

 

 

[Parafox]

1 minute ago, Bordersfox said:

Edited it now, probably reduces the chance it will be disappeared anyway 

 

 

 

I wasn't being pedantic BTW. I just felt that you might have misconstrued the word.

[StanSP]

Nicely done

 

 

 

[Zear0]

7 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Nicely done

 

 

 

Joking aside, elections very often tend to be on single topics. 

 

Cameron - Economy

Cameron II - Miliband can't eat a sandwich

May - Brexit Deal and not Corbyn

Boris - Above

Starmer - Not the Torys

 

As much as we ridicule them, I feel fairly sure the next election will be 99% on immigration and the parties trying to out Farage, Farage. Genuinely think he'll win. 

 

[leicsmac]

31 minutes ago, Zear0 said:

Joking aside, elections very often tend to be on single topics. 

 

Cameron - Economy

Cameron II - Miliband can't eat a sandwich

May - Brexit Deal and not Corbyn

Boris - Above

Starmer - Not the Torys

 

As much as we ridicule them, I feel fairly sure the next election will be 99% on immigration and the parties trying to out Farage, Farage. Genuinely think he'll win. 

 

And should the next election have that particular single issue focus, the choices talked about will both be a good barometer of the human calibre of the UK population, and (depending on the degree of consequence afterwards) will likely be talked about by quite a few generations afterwards. Hopefully not in the same way as they now talk about the election in Germany in 1933. 

[deep blue]

10 hours ago, CornwallFox said:

The hotels only exist because the Tories stopped processing and caused a backlog. In the process they signed contracts with hotels until 2029 so we're paying for them now either way. 

Better to spend the extra money on more staff to increase processing numbers, and also to allow them to work in prescribed jobs to effectively pay for their keep. 

Too sensible!

[Trav Le Bleu]

 

 

Tru dat.

 

[Dr The Singh]

1 hour ago, Zear0 said:

Joking aside, elections very often tend to be on single topics. 

 

Cameron - Economy

Cameron II - Miliband can't eat a sandwich

May - Brexit Deal and not Corbyn

Boris - Above

Starmer - Not the Torys

 

As much as we ridicule them, I feel fairly sure the next election will be 99% on immigration and the parties trying to out Farage, Farage. Genuinely think he'll win. 

 

I hate videos like that, politics is so.more complicated, hence why I belive were fooooked