General News Thread

[Leicester_Loyal]

Just now, leicsmac said:

If that's true (and it's entirely possible), then large scale unrest, if not full on demographic conflict, is inevitable. 

 

How sad that would be. 

I genuinely think that's coming at some point. The harsh (when compared to other crimes IMO) sentences handed our during the riots last year were a massive deterrant to try and avoid it. 

[Wymsey]

The question is should the government be able to provide accommodation to all migrants currently in the country?

 

Also, how can they screen them for security reasons with the liklihood that they don't know the full extent of their personal backgrounds?

Edited 24 August 2025 by Wymsey

[leicsmac]

11 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

I genuinely think that's coming at some point. The harsh (when compared to other crimes IMO) sentences handed our during the riots last year were a massive deterrant to try and avoid it. 

Then the future is very dark.

 

I hope that you're wrong. I fear that you're right.

[Bellend Sebastian]

20 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

No doubt there was a lot of ill feeling going on around that time, but I think that event showed it was at least possible for things to go in a different direction. 

 

Unfortunately, the events of 2016 and since have appeared to make that notion appear fanciful. 

My recollection is that expectations around the Olympics were pretty low, and that they went well both in terms of the medal count and the events themselves was a bit of light relief against the backdrop of a pretty grim couple of years. 

 

Also that I missed the opening ceremony as I was fitting a roof box to my Astra and it absolutely did my head in

 

 

[Heathrow fox]

6 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

I genuinely think that's coming at some point. The harsh (when compared to other crimes IMO) sentences handed our during the riots last year were a massive deterrant to try and avoid it. 

Governments will always come down hard on mass rioting.There was some pretty harsh sentences handed out after the 2011 unrest.The Police have always gone in hard on mass strike action etc.

 

It feels like there has been a real effort by certain influencer’s to stoke up tensions before the tradional riot season ends.Or in other words, before it gets cold,dark and rains.

[Lionator]

Pretty despondent at the state of things at the moment.

 

Angela Rayner getting a lot of heat for purchasing a second home (not a third, she has a flat that all non London MP’s get). Is this not the Thatcherite, neo-liberal dream? A woman from a deprived Manchester council estate making it to the top of the political system, investing her wealth into property?? She maybe should’ve just stayed in her lane all along like all the other peasants.

 

And then all of this flag nonsense, if only people had the same energy to do something in their local communities that would make meaningful difference. 

[Wymsey]

Am no nationalist, but don't quite understand the reason/s for taking England flags down; particularly when the flags - plus some roundabouts - have been seen during big England sporting events and the King's Coronation etc in the past without any issues/trouble.

 

People should have a right to display their flag of where they were born/brought-up in.

 

It's hardly an offensive flag, the same with the British one.

 

Cancel Culture and Woke spring to mind, tbh.

Edited 24 August 2025 by Wymsey

[Zear0]

1 minute ago, Lionator said:

Pretty despondent at the state of things at the moment.

 

Angela Rayner getting a lot of heat for purchasing a second home (not a third, she has a flat that all non London MP’s get). Is this not the Thatcherite, neo-liberal dream? A woman from a deprived Manchester council estate making it to the top of the political system, investing her wealth into property?? She maybe should’ve just stayed in her lane all along like all the other peasants.

 

And then all of this flag nonsense, if only people had the same energy to do something in their local communities that would make meaningful difference. 

It was always laughable hearing Boris talk about "leveling up". Moment someone working class actually does that, they get absolutely pelted. 

[leicsmac]

7 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Pretty despondent at the state of things at the moment.

 

Angela Rayner getting a lot of heat for purchasing a second home (not a third, she has a flat that all non London MP’s get). Is this not the Thatcherite, neo-liberal dream? A woman from a deprived Manchester council estate making it to the top of the political system, investing her wealth into property?? She maybe should’ve just stayed in her lane all along like all the other peasants.

 

And then all of this flag nonsense, if only people had the same energy to do something in their local communities that would make meaningful difference. 

Two examples of small issues being manipulated into big ones by skilful digital information influencing. 

[Lionator]

10 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

Am no nationalist, but don't quite understand the reason/s for taking England flags down; particularly when the flags - plus some roundabouts - have been seen during big England sporting events and the King's Coronation etc in the past without any issues/trouble.

 

People should have a right to display their flag of where they were born/brought-up in.

 

It's hardly an offensive flag, the same with the British one.

 

Cancel Culture and Woke spring to mind, tbh.

Is anyone actually taking them down though? 
 

Edited 24 August 2025 by Lionator

[FoxesDeb]

7 hours ago, Wymsey said:

The question is should the government be able to provide accommodation to all migrants currently in the country?

 

Also, how can they screen them for security reasons with the liklihood that they don't know the full extent of their personal backgrounds?

Migrants? If legal migrants then yes of course. If you mean asylum seekers then the answer is also yes as they have the right to be housed while their applications are processed. 

 

Legal migrants will no doubt have been through security screening as part of the visa process, and asylum seekers I would expect would also go through the same security screening when their application is processed. 

[Wymsey]

1 minute ago, Lionator said:

Is anyone actually taking them down though? 
 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjw6p24ev90o

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyj4y8vq7vo

 

 

[Lionator]

Just now, Wymsey said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjw6p24ev90o

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyj4y8vq7vo

 

 

The whole thing is just utterly brain dead, lowest common denominator stuff. Both sides in that case. Just utter utter guff. 

[Parafox]

7 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Is anyone actually taking them down though? 
 

I've seen more being put up in the last 24 hrs. Nothing is being defaced or damaged. I'm not even sure why it's a thing other than a wave of people following social media and joining in. A bit mindless IMO but hey-ho.

 

I am ambivalent. It's inoffensive and harmless. I'd rather this than mass direct action. 

 

 

[Lionator]

2 minutes ago, Parafox said:

I've seen more being put up in the last 24 hrs. Nothing is being defaced or damaged. I'm not even sure why it's a thing other than a wave of people following social media and joining in. A bit mindless IMO but hey-ho.

 

I am ambivalent. It's inoffensive and harmless. I'd rather this than mass direct action. 

 

 

If it makes people feel good then good for them. I get a buzz when I see the Leicestershire flag so I get it. I just wish if people wanted to do something actually for the greater good, they’d channel their energy into something systemic in their local communities, rather than something that makes zero difference to people’s wellbeing. 

[Parafox]

1 minute ago, Lionator said:

If it makes people feel good then good for them. I get a buzz when I see the Leicestershire flag so I get it. I just wish if people wanted to do something actually for the greater good, they’d channel their energy into something systemic in their local communities, rather than something that makes zero difference to people’s wellbeing. 

I agree.

 

But in reality the, dare I say sheep, that follow FB don't have the intellect to actually do something that would be positive for local community projects never mind starting something themselves.

 

It's easier to be a follower than it is to be a leader.

[Dr The Singh]

I think patriosm is great.  I love seeing the flags.  Im a true Brit, and true English.

[Trav Le Bleu]

11 hours ago, Dr The Singh said:

I think patriosm is great.  I love seeing the flags.  Im a true Brit, and true English.

Racist.

[CornwallFox]

13 hours ago, Wymsey said:

Am no nationalist, but don't quite understand the reason/s for taking England flags down; particularly when the flags - plus some roundabouts - have been seen during big England sporting events and the King's Coronation etc in the past without any issues/trouble.

 

People should have a right to display their flag of where they were born/brought-up in.

 

It's hardly an offensive flag, the same with the British one.

 

Cancel Culture and Woke spring to mind, tbh.

The flag isn't offensive. The people putting it up to signal to immigrants that they aren't welcome are. 

Not really bothered about the flags but I'm very concerned about the hatred you see everywhere online at the moment. 

Edited 25 August 2025 by CornwallFox

[StanSP]

13 hours ago, Lionator said:

Pretty despondent at the state of things at the moment.

 

Angela Rayner getting a lot of heat for purchasing a second home (not a third, she has a flat that all non London MP’s get). Is this not the Thatcherite, neo-liberal dream? A woman from a deprived Manchester council estate making it to the top of the political system, investing her wealth into property?? She maybe should’ve just stayed in her lane all along like all the other peasants.

 

And then all of this flag nonsense, if only people had the same energy to do something in their local communities that would make meaningful difference. 

Ironic these neanderthals care more about painting flags on a road as opposed to campaigning for better services that will actually help them as well as others... 

 

It's all so narrow-minded, as per. 

They're fuelled by people who have them wrapped around their little fingers and to do their fighting for them, as per... 

[Jon the Hat]

20 hours ago, Wymsey said:

The question is should the government be able to provide accommodation to all migrants currently in the country?

 

Also, how can they screen them for security reasons with the liklihood that they don't know the full extent of their personal backgrounds?

Isn't the question whether they should accommodate those in need from the domestic population first?

[CornwallFox]

2 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said:

Isn't the question whether they should accommodate those in need from the domestic population first?

They could do that in an instant if they wanted to. As they did during covid. Very few of the people calling for us to "look after our own" vote for parties that actually would. 

[Jon the Hat]

Just now, CornwallFox said:

They could do that in an instant if they wanted to. As they did during covid. Very few of the people calling for us to "look after our own" vote for parties that actually would. 

They could during Covid because every type of accommodation was desperate for the cash on offer due to literally no-one going on any kind of travel.  Less the case in normal times, however if say Epping council are not willing to see the hotel in the news used for migrants, perhaps they can use it for local needs.

[Dr The Singh]

1 hour ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

Racist.

Can we stop the boats please, and book hotels through trivago cus klopp says u can save money and this country is broke.

[CornwallFox]

39 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said:

They could during Covid because every type of accommodation was desperate for the cash on offer due to literally no-one going on any kind of travel.  Less the case in normal times, however if say Epping council are not willing to see the hotel in the news used for migrants, perhaps they can use it for local needs.

They could after too. Jenrick signed off on hundreds of hotel contracts for asylum seekers well after covid too. Clearly if there's political will, then there's money for anything we want. There just hasn't been the political will or ability.

It could also look at the "help or own" crowd constantly voting for benefit cuts despite the vast majority on benefits also being in work.

Edited 25 August 2025 by CornwallFox