General News Thread

[leicsmac]

35 minutes ago, Zear0 said:

So whilst wearing a hat that reads "Trump Was Right About Everything" it was announcing the World Cup draw would take place at the Trump Kennedy Centre...Troll.

Wait... that was actually what happened?

[Lionator]

2 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Wait... that was actually what happened?

I’ve seen some messed up Trump press conferences but this is one of the weirdest yet. 

[leicsmac]

15 minutes ago, Lionator said:

I’ve seen some messed up Trump press conferences but this is one of the weirdest yet. 

"You are not a clown. You are the entire circus."

[Trav Le Bleu]

5 hours ago, leicsmac said:

I know, right?

 

It might even dispel some of the ideas about the apparently black-and-white nature of that conflict the media-based talking heads seem to like if that were occurring. 

 

But of course it's not happening, trustworthy sources are saying it isn't and that the UN are lying. 

 

...... right?

I'm sure that independent journalists from other countries will be able to verify the veracity of their truth.

[leicsmac]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce83pj1ggmeo

 

Not quite sure why the bigots in the US think they have the right to directly interfere in the UK legal process regarding the right (or not) to incite bigoted violence. 

[urban.spaceman]

14 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce83pj1ggmeo

 

Not quite sure why the bigots in the US think they have the right to directly interfere in the UK legal process regarding the right (or not) to incite bigoted violence. 

Incited the mass murder of asylum seekers (and our politicians) online and got 300,000 views. 

Rioters started trying to burn down hotels. 

 

Charged for breaking a law introduced by Thatcher. 
 

Sentenced using guidelines introduced by Johnson. 
 

 

She literally plead ****ing guilty.

Released early thanks to Starmer’s early release scheme. 
 

“KiEr SrArMeR’s PoLiTiCaL pRiSoNeR”.

[leicsmac]

17 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

Incited the mass murder of asylum seekers (and our politicians) online and got 300,000 views. 

Rioters started trying to burn down hotels. 

 

Charged for breaking a law introduced by Thatcher. 
 

Sentenced using guidelines introduced by Johnson. 
 

 

She literally plead ****ing guilty.

Released early thanks to Starmer’s early release scheme. 
 

“KiEr SrArMeR’s PoLiTiCaL pRiSoNeR”.

It's more the idea that a (arguably) belligerent foreign power is using this incident as an excuse to encourage those ideas to become more and more established that worries me.

[bovril]

33 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

Incited the mass murder of asylum seekers (and our politicians) online and got 300,000 views. 

Rioters started trying to burn down hotels. 

 

Charged for breaking a law introduced by Thatcher. 
 

Sentenced using guidelines introduced by Johnson. 
 

 

She literally plead ****ing guilty.

Released early thanks to Starmer’s early release scheme. 
 

“KiEr SrArMeR’s PoLiTiCaL pRiSoNeR”.

Bloke who moved to the UK when Johnson was PM commits a crime:

 

"One of Starmer's mates"

[blabyboy]

1 hour ago, leicsmac said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce83pj1ggmeo

 

Not quite sure why the bigots in the US think they have the right to directly interfere in the UK legal process regarding the right (or not) to incite bigoted violence. 

"I think with Starmer he needs to practise what he preaches.

 

"He's a human rights lawyer, so maybe he needs to look at what people's human rights are; what freedom of speech means; and what the laws are in this country."

 

I thought at first she was trying to be ironic, but sadly came to the conclusion that she put as much thought into this statement as the one that got her into trouble in the first place.

[st albans fox]

11 hours ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

I'm sure that independent journalists from other countries will be able to verify the veracity of their truth.

Isn’t it all political and biased ? 

the UN say it’s isr responsibility to ensure that aid gets to those that need it and they also say that neither warring side can be involved in protection and delivery of that aid. ???????  how do you square that circle?  10% of UN aid trucks have reached their intended destination between may and august.

 

stick a guardian and a telegraph journo in there for 24 hours and you’ll get two completely different reports.  (Assuming they don’t get killed ).  I mean is anything mutually exclusive - all of it could be true ?  All of it could be lies?   some of it could be true/ lies ?    All we know for sure is that people are dying and it needs to end.  And the political aspects from both sides is preventing that. irrespective of morality/ right/wrong.  Both sides are trying to achieve something that’s not achievable.  
in a months time hams can point to widespread western government recognition of a pal state as being their win.  Isr will point to the effective destruction of hams as a threat/fighting force (for now) as theirs. And the people have paid the price for that.  such a dreadful waste. 
 

The only person who can stop isr is trump. it seems that no one can stop hams.  Eventually trump will call an end but that could still be months away. it certainly seems doubtful that hams would agree to effectively surrender before the September political recognition at the UN (unless they believe that’s guaranteed irrespective of any ceasefire arrangements). 

[Tuna]

All I can say on the LC case is that idiots and smart phones + social media are a dangerous mix.

[leicsmac]

4 minutes ago, Tuna said:

All I can say on the LC case is that idiots and smart phones + social media are a dangerous mix.

So it is proving. 

 

However, no idea how best to address that with anything short of the Chinese solution (which naturally comes with massive ethical and logistical problems of its own).

[Muzzy_no7]

5 minutes ago, Tuna said:

All I can say on the LC case is that idiots and smart phones + social media are a dangerous mix.

And all I’ll say is if anyone does the same or similar again all they need to do is plead not guilty or say it at a gig and they’ll be fine. 

[leicsmac]

23 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Isn’t it all political and biased ? 

the UN say it’s isr responsibility to ensure that aid gets to those that need it and they also say that neither warring side can be involved in protection and delivery of that aid. ???????  how do you square that circle?  10% of UN aid trucks have reached their intended destination between may and august.

 

stick a guardian and a telegraph journo in there for 24 hours and you’ll get two completely different reports.  (Assuming they don’t get killed ).  I mean is anything mutually exclusive - all of it could be true ?  All of it could be lies?   some of it could be true/ lies ?    All we know for sure is that people are dying and it needs to end.  And the political aspects from both sides is preventing that. irrespective of morality/ right/wrong.  Both sides are trying to achieve something that’s not achievable.  
in a months time hams can point to widespread western government recognition of a pal state as being their win.  Isr will point to the effective destruction of hams as a threat/fighting force (for now) as theirs. And the people have paid the price for that.  such a dreadful waste. 
 

The only person who can stop isr is trump. it seems that no one can stop hams.  Eventually trump will call an end but that could still be months away. it certainly seems doubtful that hams would agree to effectively surrender before the September political recognition at the UN (unless they believe that’s guaranteed irrespective of any ceasefire arrangements). 

The objective of the UN is to be as apolitical and a balancing force as possible. Whether they're actually achieving that or not is clearly up to the beholder, but IMO I trust their reading of a situation over that of any nation state, and if we can't trust their reading of a situation then no ones can be trusted and we may as well settle into this pseudo-nihilist circle-jerk on the nature of truthful information flow and sources while doing nothing and letting innocent people die. 

 

At some point, folks have to trust a single point of information and take action based on it, or all of this is absolutely meaningless. 

[Torquay Gunner]

Maxwell ‘clears’ Trump shocker.  Only MAGA would be dumb enough to believe anything Maxwell says in this interview,  conducted by Trump’s personal attorney.  How long before the pardon? 
 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/live-updates-justice-department-releases-transcript-ghislaine-maxwell-rcna226675

[The Bear]

People who preach about free speech on social media don't seem to understand that free speech doesn't mean that you can say whatever you want without any consequences. 

[leicsmac]

11 minutes ago, The Bear said:

People who preach about free speech on social media don't seem to understand that free speech doesn't mean that you can say whatever you want without any consequences. 

The freedom to take the consequences is the one upon which all the others are based. 

[Md9]

20 hours ago, Torquay Gunner said:

Maxwell ‘clears’ Trump shocker.  Only MAGA would be dumb enough to believe anything Maxwell says in this interview,  conducted by Trump’s personal attorney.  How long before the pardon? 
 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/live-updates-justice-department-releases-transcript-ghislaine-maxwell-rcna226675

It was always going to happen as soon as he moved her to a different prison. His name will magically disappear from the Epstein list and every single person he hates will suddenly be on them. Maga are ridiculously stupid to believe anything anyone he employs says. 

[Jon the Hat]

20 hours ago, The Bear said:

People who preach about free speech on social media don't seem to understand that free speech doesn't mean that you can say whatever you want without any consequences. 

Well no, but freedom of speech also doesn’t exist if the consequences prevent any reasonable person from saying something.  In this case this is an exception to freedom of speech passed by government and put into law, which is fine as long as said government is acting with a democratic mandate.

[Trav Le Bleu]

20 hours ago, The Bear said:

People who preach about free speech on social media don't seem to understand that free speech doesn't mean that you can say whatever you want without any consequences. 

No, usually people who preach about free speech think it means that THEY can say whatever THEY like.

 

Not you.

 

NB, when I say they, I'm not referring to transgender people. Why is modern life so complicated?

[leicsmac]

Was looking back at some 2012 Olympic clips today. It was amazing to see how it united the entire country.

 

The events of 2016 and since have been so damaging to the very societal fabric of the UK. And other places, too.

[bovril]

30 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Was looking back at some 2012 Olympic clips today. It was amazing to see how it united the entire country.

 

The events of 2016 and since have been so damaging to the very societal fabric of the UK. And other places, too.

The year of the 'hostile environment' and panic over Eastern Europeans, and a year after mass riots in English cities.

[Leicester_Loyal]

We've been a ticking time bomb for years, I don't believe we've been united as a country for a long long time.

[leicsmac]

1 minute ago, bovril said:

The year of the 'hostile environment' and panic over Eastern Europeans, and a year after mass riots in English cities.

No doubt there was a lot of ill feeling going on around that time, but I think that event showed it was at least possible for things to go in a different direction. 

 

Unfortunately, the events of 2016 and since have appeared to make that notion appear fanciful. 

[leicsmac]

3 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

We've been a ticking time bomb for years, I don't believe we've been united as a country for a long long time.

If that's true (and it's entirely possible), then large scale unrest, if not full on demographic conflict, is inevitable. 

 

How sad that would be.