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The Year Of The Fox

Martí Cifuentes

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STUHILL

STUHILL

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53 minutes ago, dmayne7 said:

I would much rather an English manager personally but MC could be an excellent choice. QPR another club that is a bit of a mess so he's done a great job overall there. Saving them from relegation in the way he did in the first season was super impressive, especially the way they played.

I am not too bothered on nationality, but it does seem we are extra critical of British Managers with success and failures, but are too quick to roll out the red carpet for someone with a foreign name, a short career (at high a level) and a lot of unknowns. 

Some mixed views from QPR fans but considering they finished 18th and 15th and there are still a lot more positive reviews than not, that is undoubtedly a good sign.  

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Scotch

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6 minutes ago, STUHILL said:

Not exactly true, but can you blame me with the names we have been linked with? 

 

I am just not easily taken with someone who has Managed so little so far and not proven much apart from surviving relegation in the Championship with a poor but not one of the three worst squads. 

As with Rohl and as with my first post on Cifuentes, I said I will support him if and when he comes. 

I mean, the guy has managed close to 280 games. By games managed, he will be our most experienced manager since Dean Smith. 

 

Yes, the standard of where he has coached has been varied but for the most part, he's achieved what has been expected of him at every club he's been at, which is why he's one of the only managers that we've been linked with who's career has been on an upward trajectory since it started. 

 

I think you are being somewhat dismissive of his job at QPR. Yes ultimately all he did was "survive relegation" but again, that was what he was tasked with doing. All you have to do is look at the general feeling towards him from QPR fans. He's still held in high regards. That's not very common in football, especially by one's who met the bare minimum like your comments suggest. 

FrankieADZ

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8 minutes ago, STUHILL said:

I am not too bothered on nationality, but it does seem we are extra critical of British Managers with success and failures, but are too quick to roll out the red carpet for someone with a foreign name, a short career and a lot of unknowns. 

Some mixed views from QPR fans but considering they finished 18th and 15th and there are still a lot more positive reviews than not, that is undoubtedly a good sign.  

well the ones linked with us, wanted a crap ton of money, plus the fact the ones linked wouldnt have suited us or what the club has been trying to do for years, and years with the youth teams too,

dont get me wrong Id have loved a British manager, but ones we was linked with honestly didnt suit us what so ever

HitchinFox

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13 minutes ago, dmayne7 said:

If there's no context, then that's true. How many English managers actually get a chance at a big club where success is a near guarantee? Fact is, even most championship clubs are looking abroad for managers. I think that was justified at one stage but now it's more than they're never given the chance. People champion somebody who has done 1 good job overseas but the point is, English managers are never given the same opportunity here.


You could argue that both Frank Lampard and Graham Potter (at Chelsea) were given a chance at a club that should have guaranteed success under them. The managers both before them and after them won things. You could also argue that Eddie Howe at Newcastle, with the resources he has, has been given a chance at a club that should be guaranteed success each season. But he hasn't delivered. 

Show me a club where success should be a "near guarantee", and I bet there is probably a historical list of managers that shows that they only started winning things when they appointed a non-English manager. *Note – non-English doesn't mean non-British. Scottish and Northern Irish managers tend to be much, much more successful than English ones too. 

It's a weird one, it really is. An anomaly. But English managers seem to be disproportionately rubbish at winning things at the very top level. And have been for decades. 

 



 

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STUHILL

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1 minute ago, Scotch said:

I mean, the guy has managed close to 280 games. By games managed, he will be our most experienced manager since Dean Smith. 

 

Yes, the standard of where he has coached has been varied but for the most part, he's achieved what has been expected of him at every club he's been at, which is why he's one of the only managers that we've been linked with who's career has been on an upward trajectory since it started. 

 

I think you are being somewhat dismissive of his job at QPR. Yes ultimately all he did was "survive relegation" but again, that was what he was tasked with doing. All you have to do is look at the general feeling towards him from QPR fans. He's still held in high regards. That's not very common in football, especially by one's who met the bare minimum like your comments suggest. 

I meant managed so little, in terms of what he has achieved so far, not the number of games he has managed at different levels. But, I take your points. 
 

I am not dismissive of his job at QPR, I am just not overly impressed either. As you said, he did what he was tasked with and avoided relegation in his first season, just. Second season was similar, but with some tricky circumstances to Manage under, which will come in handy under Top and Rudkin. 

I am not against this appointment, but I am also not that excited either. It is the roll of a dice with a lot of unknowns, and I understand why fans prefer that, as they can fill those unknowns with their own positives and hopes for what he might be. 

Time will tell, and I will support him and hopefully we get a Maresca type bump!  

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FosseSpark

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Hes never won anything or managed successfully in a decent league. So we can rightly expect that he will continue that form with us. its like signing a striker who scores 8 goals a season over 10yrs of a career and expecting him to bang 20 in for you at a higher level

 

 

 

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Bluetintedspecs

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1 minute ago, FosseSpark said:

Hes never won anything or managed successfully in a decent league. So we can rightly expect that he will continue that form with us. its like signing a striker who scores 8 goals a season over 10yrs of a career and expecting him to bang 20 in for you at a higher level

 

 

 

What had Enzo won or achieved before we appointed him? 

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The_77

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1 hour ago, The_77 said:

I’m withholding judgement until we learn whether or not he’s friends with Guillem Balague. 

 

2 hours ago, moore_94 said:

Ah feck

 

 

So much for that.

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The_77

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2 hours ago, moore_94 said:

Ah feck

 

 

 

 

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MPH

MPH

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28 minutes ago, FosseSpark said:

Hes never won anything or managed successfully in a decent league. So we can rightly expect that he will continue that form with us. its like signing a striker who scores 8 goals a season over 10yrs of a career and expecting him to bang 20 in for you at a higher level

 

 

 


 

Id question the statement that his management of the situation at QPR wasn’t successful but admittedly, that would be a longer conversation..

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18 minutes ago, Pita said:

The real question is has he got the balls to stand up to players and management 


 

Vardy gone. Player power is falling apart at the club,

Deeg67

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This would be an uncharacteristically WTF move from our board. I’m not exactly inspired by his track record, but would certainly prefer him over Gary and Wilder. Young and relatively progressive in approach, seems open to giving the kids a chance to prove themselves.

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cityfanlee23

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He likes to play line breaking passes, so that likely puts Winks back into the starting 11. Cifuentes needs to get his attitude in order, and if he can utilise him to actually pass the ball more than 4 yards and sideways then he will probably dominate. 

Jon the Hat

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6 hours ago, FrankieADZ said:

 

 

No shit.  If you are on gardening leave and accept another job (assuming you are permitted to and are not working out your notice period) the gardening leave stops paying you.  This is how it works.

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Sly

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5 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said:

No shit.  If you are on gardening leave and accept another job (assuming you are permitted to and are not working out your notice period) the gardening leave stops paying you.  This is how it works.

Yep, however he’ll start getting g paid by us, so I’m assuming the media are dramatising this. 
 

I still think King Power will have paid him directly, so he can pay for his own compensation. 

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fox_favourite

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28 minutes ago, CrispinLA in Texas said:

Somethings happening as I can't seem to place a bet on the new Leicester manager as it's suspended on all online betting sites 🙏🏼

I think the Marti rumour is is quite strong with them talking about the fact we're trying to get his assistant. So I'm not surprised. 

 

What I am surprised about is the fact we're not going completely free in terms of recruitment. This may fall apart if QPR don't want to release his assistant as it sounds like they come as a pair, and I'd imagine he wont come without Mr Calm from QPR. 

 

I can imagine it won't be done tomorrow. Overall an interesting link, but I do have my reservations as to whether he'll put up with our board. But he plays right football for our squad, he did well at QPR with what he had and he promoted youth. 

 

I'm intrigued in how he will do. 

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