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4 hours ago, Dan said:

You get what you deserve in the end. We will only continue to slide. Clubs like Norwich, West Brom etc... will be the next to pass us (or we fall past them, whichever applies). There's this institutional delusion at Leicester that it will just magically get better. The penny may drop after it's far too late.

 

It isn't just us. We are very similar to Manchester United - they won't get good any time soon either. Other clubs have gotten smarter and we still have 'Jon Rudkin' as our main football person. You get what you deserve.

Exactly !!! I’ve made that comparison with Man U also

That’s why we let Dumb and Dumber continue to take the club in a downward spiral it’s the quickest way out so give them enough rope and hopefully………. 
it’s our way out ! 
Our club’s foundation are rotten to the core so until that’s resolved nothing will change. 

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I honestly think the fees we were able to generate for players like Maguire, Mahrez, Fofana, Chilwell even Drinkwater suddenly made the club truly believe they could sell at some sort of Leicester tax and created false expectations and valuations. 
 

That is all well and good when you continue to invest in players who have potential and they improve but as soon as you have a couple of average or poor transfer windows you are in the proverbial. 
 

We are very poor at trading, There are very few examples of where we sign a player and then within a couple of years move them on due to not being deemed good enough, too often we retain players and allow them to run their contracts down, we seem to have a boom or bust policy, we either sell for massive money or let them go for free. 
 

We have to start being more savvy and that maybe to accept that every sale cannot be £35m + sometimes we may have to sell a dud like a Soumare or Daka for a lower level of profit but be able to keep operating  in the transfer market. 
 

I bet there will have been interest in Wout Faes but I guarantee rather than sell for £10m which would give us £4m clear profit and circa £16m-20m to play with in the transfer market, we will be holding out for £15m minimum and will lose any chance of doing a deal and he will then stink the place out for the next 24 months waiting to walk away for free and further hamstringing our chances of rebuilding. 

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2 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Let’s start a new topic on the blindingly obvious that’s already been talked to death a million times?

A bit like this sort of post had been posted a million times.  

 

And here's my reply, that's been posted a million times in one form or another.  

 

Nobody is holding a gun to your head.  The thread title is pretty clear about the subject matter.  No need for you to enter and comment.  

 

There is always an element of repetition on a forum dedicated to a particular topic, I really don't know why people give a sh1t.  

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We’re going round in this never ending circle as prospective new players will see what the likes of Coady and Winks are on and will want parity.

 

Once the fat has been trimmed, we need to go back to a strategy of signing young players on the way up with a cap of £30-40k per week. That along with our academy, would build a squad of players on an upward trajectory and we wouldn’t find ourselves in this position again.

 

For this to work we need capable people in charge, that’s the first thing that has to change 

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Yes, the trend unsurprisingly continues with Rudkin/man child at the wheel. It will be desperate loan time soon and another manager with their back up after a slow window. 

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3 minutes ago, Jazzy_Jeff said:

We’re going round in this never ending circle as prospective new players will see what the likes of Coady and Winks are on and will want parity.

 

Once the fat has been trimmed, we need to go back to a strategy of signing young players on the way up with a cap of £30-40k per week. That along with our academy, would build a squad of players on an upward trajectory and we wouldn’t find ourselves in this position again.

 

For this to work we need capable people in charge, that’s the first thing that has to change 

This is it, next summer needs to be the reset that should have happened 2-3 years ago but we maintained the arrogance that we could get straight back up paying daft money and stay up and the decline would be seen as a brief deviation. It clearly isn't and our club should be horrified at the mistakes it has made and the refusal to hold those accountable for it who remain in their senior positions.

 

Or we are just a social experiment which I've long thought we are as there's no explaining the last 20-30 years of us. We are mayhem.

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I think people are thinking that because Cooper and RVN played the same dross week in, week out, Marti is going to do it as well. But I don't think he will. 

 

The analysis videos and what we've seen in pre season show that he likes fast attacking play with quick pressing and we have several players in the squad that don't fit this style and cannot play this way. 

 

I believe (and hope) that Marti will already know the players that aren't going to fit into his system and won't play them. Give the likes of Vestergaard and Soumare a few months of not getting in the squad and see what happens. They won't want to be spending their time just training so will want a move.

 

We might not see much movement now but January could well be the month where we see a lot of movement when players realise they have no future here. 

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I don't see a massive change in the squad until next season when the likes of Coady, Ayew, Soumare, Daka, JJ and Ricardo, Thomas and Wink are out of contract.

 

90m ish million in transfers fees spent on that lot and they will all walk away for free.

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8 minutes ago, Groby_Blue said:

I think people are thinking that because Cooper and RVN played the same dross week in, week out, Marti is going to do it as well. But I don't think he will. 

 

The analysis videos and what we've seen in pre season show that he likes fast attacking play with quick pressing and we have several players in the squad that don't fit this style and cannot play this way. 

 

I believe (and hope) that Marti will already know the players that aren't going to fit into his system and won't play them. Give the likes of Vestergaard and Soumare a few months of not getting in the squad and see what happens. They won't want to be spending their time just training so will want a move.

 

We might not see much movement now but January could well be the month where we see a lot of movement when players realise they have no future here. 

Unfortunately Vestergaard has already proven he's happy to sit on his giraffe sized arse and collect a fat salary.  

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16 minutes ago, Groby_Blue said:

I think people are thinking that because Cooper and RVN played the same dross week in, week out, Marti is going to do it as well. But I don't think he will. 

 

The analysis videos and what we've seen in pre season show that he likes fast attacking play with quick pressing and we have several players in the squad that don't fit this style and cannot play this way. 

 

I believe (and hope) that Marti will already know the players that aren't going to fit into his system and won't play them. Give the likes of Vestergaard and Soumare a few months of not getting in the squad and see what happens. They won't want to be spending their time just training so will want a move.

 

We might not see much movement now but January could well be the month where we see a lot of movement when players realise they have no future here. 

January is an even worse transfer window for us than the summer. Don't be fooled that will happen at all. Those 9 players out of contract next summer will only have a few more months to wait come January to then take advantage of being a free agent and the likely bigger gains in signing on fee than moving in January and our club getting a fee. We've been notoriously poor at moving players on with less than a year to go. Got £1.8m for Demarai Gray and had to agree to a loan for Perez in his last year. 

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1 hour ago, Bordersfox said:

Some argue we arent bad at selling players rather we are bad at buying them which means we're left with assets we can't move on.  But I'm with you on this Ric.  It's definitely more than just that, although that of course is an important part of the problem. Remember this in the Athletic, just one unequivocal example of the clubs terrible decision making when considering offers for players near the end of their contract:

 

"In May, Dennis Praet, who has now left the club as a free agent, told Belgian news outlet Nieuwsblad that Leicester rejected permanent bids for him from Italian side Torino because “they thought I was too good, useful and versatile to let me go on the cheap."

 

I have no doubt this sort of thing has happened numerous times, costing until millions.

In fairness, he was a useful player.

 

Which is why we never used him.

 

We seem to think we're Chelsea and can just let good players fester.

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Posted
11 hours ago, Lineker's Left Foot said:

Well you all know what to do…. Don’t attend games or buy merchandise.. Not One Penny More.

Struggling to correlate how say an attendance of zero home fans against Sheff Wed would encourage someone like Al Hilal to offer us £30m for Patson Daka. Or how zero shirt sales will result in a lucrative move to Italy for Vestergaard tbh.

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The recent Dan Iversen interview highlighted these issues, he's said he'd got moves ready and lined up but didn't take place due to the number of sign offs it took for things to be approved. 

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23 minutes ago, funkyrobot said:

Struggling to correlate how say an attendance of zero home fans against Sheff Wed would encourage someone like Al Hilal to offer us £30m for Patson Daka. Or how zero shirt sales will result in a lucrative move to Italy for Vestergaard tbh.

No but a continuation of abstaining from going or our own ‘investing’ into the club has a greater likelihood of getting rid of KP.

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I thought some of our players (Faes, Vestergaard) had been advised to leave if they wanted to be part of their international sides for upcoming tournaments next year.

It won't help them being part of a bloated squad and maybe not being picked.

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