Patson Daka

[jayfox26]

2 hours ago, deep blue said:

We can only guess at the figures but it seems an opportunity missed to not sell Daka and replace him with Ivanovic.  If, say, we had to cough up 10mill for him but got 5mill for Daka then bringing in Ivanovic for effectively 5mill seems like a worthwhile gamble.  If Ivanovic really could have made a significant difference, and given he has room for improvement, then that seems a good forward-looking move with promotion and next season in the Prem as our ambition.

 

A lot of ifs, admittedly.

Yes especially as the Ivanovic deal could have been amortised over his contract so we wouldn't have had to pay £10m up front, so long as Millwall agreed to it like that. 

[MC Prussian]

29 minutes ago, jayfox26 said:

It's not about motivating Daka. He's just not a very good player. He seems a decent guy and always seems like he works hard and gives his all but he's just not good enough 

As I‘ve stated before, the club were duped by his scoring record with RB Salzburg.
 

27 goals in 28 games in 2020/21 with the Bayern Munich of Austria is a misleading stat, since the rest of their Bundesliga is rather shit.

Pretty much all of Austria‘s pros play abroad, preferrably Germany.

 

Daka seems to be stuck playing on a youth level, and has thus far failed to man up.

[dooflip]

22 minutes ago, MC Prussian said:

As I‘ve stated before, the club were duped by his scoring record with RB Salzburg.
 

27 goals in 28 games in 2020/21 with the Bayern Munich of Austria is a misleading stat, since the rest of their Bundesliga is rather shit.

Pretty much all of Austria‘s pros play abroad, preferrably Germany.

 

Daka seems to be stuck playing on a youth level, and has thus far failed to man up.

Haaland also came from there though. So it is a tricky one mate.

[MC Prussian]

12 minutes ago, dooflip said:

Haaland also came from there though. So it is a tricky one mate.

Not quite the same. Haaland went to Germany and proved himself with Dortmund.

Haaland is also of a different physique, and has bulked up a bit over the years, without sacrificing much of his speed.

 

Daka came straight to the UK, and I think that was the biggest mistake. Then again, hindsight is 20/20.

Edited 3 September 2025 by MC Prussian

[Edingleyfox]

The lesson here is not to pay inflated wages until players are proven in the English game. In fact way too many players have been on big money and it might be why a number have run their contracts down rather than getting moves.  It wouldn't surprise me if Daka goes in January maybe before and perhaps Ivanovic could be re-visited at that stage. Probably finding £10m up front was too much this window particularly after the issues with the Bilal sale.

[Jon the Hat]

36 minutes ago, MC Prussian said:

As I‘ve stated before, the club were duped by his scoring record with RB Salzburg.
 

27 goals in 28 games in 2020/21 with the Bayern Munich of Austria is a misleading stat, since the rest of their Bundesliga is rather shit.

Pretty much all of Austria‘s pros play abroad, preferrably Germany.

 

Daka seems to be stuck playing on a youth level, and has thus far failed to man up.

He was worth a shot, just not at the fee or wages he commanded.

[MC Prussian]

6 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said:

He was worth a shot, just not at the fee or wages he commanded.

I agree. He was unproven at this level and nowhere near worth £23m (and these wages).

If we stick with the Haaland comparison, Dortmund paid about £5-6m less for him than we paid for Daka – and Haaland didn't even play an entire season with RB Salzburg.

Let that sink in.

Edited 3 September 2025 by MC Prussian

[happy85]

Percy confirmed all players had 35% to 50% reduction in wages when we got relegated 2 season ago

 

so expect Daka to be 30/40 a week

[Muzzy_no7]

3 minutes ago, happy85 said:

Percy confirmed all players had 35% to 50% reduction in wages when we got relegated 2 season ago

 

so expect Daka to be 30/40 a week

He was on 80K in prem.

 

Likely around the 50-55K mark in the championship. 

[cropstonfox]

Good idea at the time to pay top money to attract and retain top players.

 

[HankMarvin]

4 hours ago, happy85 said:

Percy confirmed all players had 35% to 50% reduction in wages when we got relegated 2 season ago

 

so expect Daka to be 30/40 a week

The focus also has to be on the players. They are facing wage reductions of a minimum 35 per cent after relegation. Salaries are further reduced if the club spend more seasons outside the Premier League.

 

 

I wonder if that was consecutively  outside the top flight

[dooflip]

6 hours ago, MC Prussian said:

Not quite the same. Haaland went to Germany and proved himself with Dortmund.

Haaland is also of a different physique, and has bulked up a bit over the years, without sacrificing much of his speed.

 

Daka came straight to the UK, and I think that was the biggest mistake. Then again, hindsight is 20/20.

Yes but both tore it up at Salzburg and got big moves off the back of it. By your logic, Dortmund took the same size punt that we did. One worked out, one didn’t.

[dooflip]

7 hours ago, jayfox26 said:

Yes especially as the Ivanovic deal could have been amortised over his contract so we wouldn't have had to pay £10m up front, so long as Millwall agreed to it like that. 

Part of the reason the deal didn’t go through is because millwall wanted a lump sum.

[jayfox26]

Just now, dooflip said:

Part of the reason the deal didn’t go through is because millwall wanted a lump sum.

Ah makes sense 

[MC Prussian]

2 minutes ago, dooflip said:

Yes but both tore it up at Salzburg and got big moves off the back of it. By your logic, Dortmund took the same size punt that we did. One worked out, one didn’t.

Not for the same price, though. And Haaland’s stats in less than one season are much more impressive.

 

Daka should’ve gone to Germany, Italy or France. He was and still is too lightweight of a striker.

[iancognito]

14 hours ago, MC Prussian said:

He does have pace, not as much as when be bought him, mind. Reminds me of the Ahmed Musa situation.

 

What he also has – which we found out pretty early on – is a terrible first touch.

And that scoring records in the Austrian top division don't translate well abroad.

 

With Marti Cifuentes, it's the last straw for me. Either he manages to motivate Daka, or the latter's got to move.

 

There's also still a few transfer windows open for another week or so. There's always hope. And RB Salzburg.

It's not really even final straw time. There's been 4 or 5 permanent managers in Daka's time here and not a single one has given him a run of more than 3 or 4 games. The last couple of seasons have seen a late 30s striker ran into the ground and playing 90 mins on many occasions rather than giving Patson even a 20 minutes impact. It's not a case of bad luck or bad judgement. None of those managers have rated him after seeing him day in, day out in training  or trusted him to start because when he's had his chances in games he's missed sitters and cost us points.  After waiting for Vardy to step aside, he's now behind Ayew and probably Carranza. His bank manager may appreciate him but he's wasted some of his best years here.

[TamuffFox]

14 minutes ago, iancognito said:

It's not really even final straw time. There's been 4 or 5 permanent managers in Daka's time here and not a single one has given him a run of more than 3 or 4 games. The last couple of seasons have seen a late 30s striker ran into the ground and playing 90 mins on many occasions rather than giving Patson even a 20 minutes impact. It's not a case of bad luck or bad judgement. None of those managers have rated him after seeing him day in, day out in training  or trusted him to start because when he's had his chances in games he's missed sitters and cost us points.  After waiting for Vardy to step aside, he's now behind Ayew and probably Carranza. His bank manager may appreciate him but he's wasted some of his best years here.

Absolutely spot on this 

[HankMarvin]

Tbf it must be hard playing in the shadow of Ayew.

[Dahnsouff]

12 hours ago, HankMarvin said:

Tbf it must be hard playing in the shadow of Ayew.

Such disrespect that you cannot spell Vardy after all this time.

[Jon the Hat]

15 hours ago, MC Prussian said:

Not for the same price, though. And Haaland’s stats in less than one season are much more impressive.

 

Daka should’ve gone to Germany, Italy or France. He was and still is too lightweight of a striker.

We paid around 23M pounds, Haaland moved for 20M Euro... so we paid about 50% more.  To be fair Daka had delivered over a longer period.  I think he was in a sweet spot there which he never quite found in the UK.

[Jazzy_Jeff]

14 hours ago, iancognito said:

It's not really even final straw time. There's been 4 or 5 permanent managers in Daka's time here and not a single one has given him a run of more than 3 or 4 games. The last couple of seasons have seen a late 30s striker ran into the ground and playing 90 mins on many occasions rather than giving Patson even a 20 minutes impact. It's not a case of bad luck or bad judgement. None of those managers have rated him after seeing him day in, day out in training  or trusted him to start because when he's had his chances in games he's missed sitters and cost us points.  After waiting for Vardy to step aside, he's now behind Ayew and probably Carranza. His bank manager may appreciate him but he's wasted some of his best years here.

I’m amazed he didn’t get more of a run under RVN.

 

Ruud said that he scouted him whilst at PSV and then he scored a cracker in RVN’s first game before disappearing.

 

I do wonder if there was a “Vardy plays” message from the top. 

[volpeazzurro]

22 hours ago, happy85 said:

Percy confirmed all players had 35% to 50% reduction in wages when we got relegated 2 season ago

 

so expect Daka to be 30/40 a week

£30/£40 per week is fair to be honest.

[volpeazzurro]

2 hours ago, Jon the Hat said:

We paid around 23M pounds, Haaland moved for 20M Euro... so we paid about 50% more.  To be fair Daka had delivered over a longer period.  I think he was in a sweet spot there which he never quite found in the UK.

The sweet spot being playing in a tin pot poor league?

[ithuriel]

Will be gone come the end of the season and quickly forgotten.

[Plastik Man]

2 hours ago, Jon the Hat said:

We paid around 23M pounds, Haaland moved for 20M Euro... so we paid about 50% more.  To be fair Daka had delivered over a longer period.  I think he was in a sweet spot there which he never quite found in the UK.

A sweet spot?

 

Was it icing sugar?