Cifuentes OUT

[whoareyaaa]

Just now, BrilliantFox said:

None of your excuses warrant being 4-0 down at half-time to a bus stop in West London.

Squad is paper thin my son

[winteriscoming]

1 minute ago, whoareyaaa said:

Rudkin and Top would have advised to keep them involved surely you know this by now ?

 

Marti flipped the switch like Ruud 

Not so sure on that. 
I just wish he had more of a backbone if that was the case and backed his convictions. 

You just know after a decent result against Derby we’ll be 2 or 3 down at Sheffield Utd before half time. 

 

[Dahnsouff]

9 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

Anything other than promotion for us is a massive failure, regardless of our current state. So yes, he would have failed, but he in term would have been failed by the board. 
 

So in essence the whole operation would have failed!

Not sure that is justified, and not because he is trading it up as he clearly is not, but early season expectations were more about avoiding relegation than achieving promotion.

Agree he been failed by the board, but I am curious if he, as a manager will have succeeded if we stay in the Championship despite the deduction and shit show above him.

[whoareyaaa]

1 minute ago, winteriscoming said:

Not so sure on that. 
I just wish he had more of a backbone if that was the case and backed his convictions. 

You just know after a decent result against Derby we’ll be 2 or 3 down at Sheffield Utd before half time. 

 

Ruud got sacked for doing that though falling out with players like Winks and Vester

 

Yea Sheff Utd probably beat us as we are going through a rebuild

Edited 30 December 2025 by whoareyaaa

[Pliskin]

1 minute ago, whoareyaaa said:

Squad is paper thin my son

This is a terrible excuse…..

 

Basic coaching skills and team management……

 

Theres players on this team regardless of how “paper thin” it is that have operated at a higher level than this…. They should never be 4-0 down to QPR at HT, never. As fragile as this group is, they’re individually not this bad. Marti isn’t a good coach, he isn’t a good manager….. it’s why we keep getting smashed on the fist halves of football against any team with good press….. it’s not a personnel issue, it’s a coaching and tactical problem. 

[whoareyaaa]

3 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

This is a terrible excuse…..

 

Basic coaching skills and team management……

 

Theres players on this team regardless of how “paper thin” it is that have operated at a higher level than this…. They should never be 4-0 down to QPR at HT, never. As fragile as this group is, they’re individually not this bad. Marti isn’t a good coach, he isn’t a good manager….. it’s why we keep getting smashed on the fist halves of football against any team with good press….. it’s not a personnel issue, it’s a coaching and tactical problem. 

we lost 5 first team players, Winks and Faes have threw there toys out the Pram and we haven't replaced Vardy, what are you expecting really ?

 

Ruud and Cooper had Vardy, Bounto and Bilal to work with plus Hermansen and Justin

Edited 30 December 2025 by whoareyaaa

[Wymsey]

Something happening, with 'Hot' thread?

 

Guess not..

[BrilliantFox]

Just now, Pliskin said:

it’s a coaching and tactical problem

One thing I've noticed is that happy clappers geniunely lack understanding of tactics and coaching.

 

Its an educational issue stemming from a lack of knowledge.

 

They view Leicester City as a "hobby" or a "day out" rather than a professional football club.

[The Doctor]

2 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

we lost 5 first team players, Winks and Faes have threw there toys out the Pram and we haven't replaced Vardy, what are you expecting really ?

even in that case, this squad is comfortably good enough to be playoff contenders, look at the dross in this division 

[whoareyaaa]

Just now, BrilliantFox said:

One thing I've noticed is that happy clappers geniunely lack understanding of tactics and coaching.

 

Its an educational issue stemming from a lack of knowledge.

 

They view Leicester City as a "hobby" or a "day out" rather than a professional football club.

 you're StupidFox surely.

[whoareyaaa]

Just now, The Doctor said:

even in that case, this squad is comfortably good enough to be playoff contenders, look at the dross in this division 

No it's not and we are 4 point's off it so we are where we are.

[Dahnsouff]

Just now, The Doctor said:

even in that case, this squad is comfortably good enough to be playoff contenders, look at the dross in this division 

At full mental capacity sure, but this team is both stale and mentally weakened.

[fox_favourite]

1 minute ago, whoareyaaa said:

No it's not and we are 4 point's off it so we are where we are.

Oh no, you've said it. Head to the bunker....fire in the hole!!!!

Edited 30 December 2025 by fox_favourite

[winteriscoming]

3 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Ruud got sacked for doing that though falling out with players like Winks and Vester

 

Yea Sheff Utd probably beat us as we are going through a rebuild

Ruud got sacked because he was shit. 
17 defeats out of 19 and not scoring in was it was it 9 consecutive home games. 
I’m just not convinced with Cifuentes. 
Someone else would have us higher up the table. 
 

[MGLCFC]

2 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

This is a terrible excuse…..

 

Basic coaching skills and team management……

 

Theres players on this team regardless of how “paper thin” it is that have operated at a higher level than this…. They should never be 4-0 down to QPR at HT, never. As fragile as this group is, they’re individually not this bad. Marti isn’t a good coach, he isn’t a good manager….. it’s why we keep getting smashed on the fist halves of football against any team with good press….. it’s not a personnel issue, it’s a coaching and tactical problem. 

Whether they have played in the Premier League is irrelevant if they are only putting in half hearted performances. This makes them poor team players who impact on the squad morale, confidence and consistency. Whilst I agree that there has been little improvement this season, I'm not sure any realistic managerial appointment could get a tune out of this squad as it stands at the moment. Marti talks about a high press and attacking options but the players who should be able to adopt this style don't seem to put the effort of application in.

[whoareyaaa]

Just now, winteriscoming said:

Ruud got sacked because he was shit. 
17 defeats out of 19 and not scoring in was it was it 9 consecutive home games. 
I’m just not convinced with Cifuentes. 
Someone else would have us higher up the table. 
 

Only MON and even he would struggle

 

We are where we are 

[Pliskin]

3 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Not sure that is justified, and not because he is trading it up as he clearly is not, but early season expectations were more about avoiding relegation than achieving promotion.

Agree he been failed by the board, but I am curious if he, as a manager will have succeeded if we stay in the Championship despite the deduction and shit show above him.

I’d still argue no, purely because regardless of this squads shortcomings it shouldn’t be where it is, we’ve seen no improvement during his time here, but we've seen regression, there’s no real evidence of a plan, and there’s no elements of an obvious style. We either get battered, or cling on to games for dear life, often against extremely poor opponents. 
 

I personally think the team is being mismanaged, being asked to play in a way it isn’t currently comfortable with, and the strengths within the team aren’t being focused on. I think even with this group, Marti is underachieving. My expectation is at the very least this group secured a play off spot, even in the current condition it finds itself in, because, as many managers have proven down the years, even in the most adverse situations you can get a tune out of their squad. 
 

So, even with a points deduction “provided it was so stupid it would put us into negative points) I would expect us to survive. 

[Dahnsouff]

5 minutes ago, BrilliantFox said:

One thing I've noticed is that happy clappers geniunely lack understanding of tactics and coaching.

 

Its an educational issue stemming from a lack of knowledge.

 

They view Leicester City as a "hobby" or a "day out" rather than a professional football club.

You have your badges?

[urban.spaceman]

6 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

Something happening, with 'Hot' thread?

 

Guess not..

Standard 5 page argument making it go hot. 

[Dahnsouff]

1 minute ago, Pliskin said:

I’d still argue no, purely because regardless of this squads shortcomings it shouldn’t be where it is, we’ve seen no improvement during his time here, but we've seen regression, there’s no real evidence of a plan, and there’s no elements of an obvious style. We either get battered, or cling on to games for dear life, often against extremely poor opponents. 
 

I personally think the team is being mismanaged, being asked to play in a way it isn’t currently comfortable with, and the strengths within the team aren’t being focused on. I think even with this group, Marti is underachieving. My expectation is at the very least this group secured a play off spot, even in the current condition it finds itself in, because, as many managers have proven down the years, even in the most adverse situations you can get a tune out of their squad. 
 

So, even with a points deduction “provided it was so stupid it would put us into negative points) I would expect us to survive. 

Fair enough, I am personally undecided. I think the rot, hubris, or even worse, the malaise, is almost ingrained at this club,

Will be content if we stay in this division, but will not hold a parade.  

[Winstonthedog]

4 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

even in that case, this squad is comfortably good enough to be playoff contenders, look at the dross in this division 

This maybe the case as the quality in the division is quite poor .. . however our players seem to lack passion, fight, consistency and a win at all costs mentality... basically to many don't care what the results are as long as they get their over inflated wages.... the whole culture within the club is in a poor state

[kingfox]

7 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

This is a terrible excuse…..

 

Basic coaching skills and team management……

 

Theres players on this team regardless of how “paper thin” it is that have operated at a higher level than this…. They should never be 4-0 down to QPR at HT, never. As fragile as this group is, they’re individually not this bad. Marti isn’t a good coach, he isn’t a good manager….. it’s why we keep getting smashed on the fist halves of football against any team with good press….. it’s not a personnel issue, it’s a coaching and tactical problem. 

Don’t know how anyone can blame our issues on one particular thing, our problems on the pitch come down to a bit of both imo.
 

There’s been plenty of issues with Marti’s coaching and tactics, and it shows up in our statistics. Average attack, shit defence. 
 

But I think you also have to blame personnel issues too. We don’t have a regular goalscorer, our depth at central midfield is crap, both full-back positions have been questioned this season, while we also lack physicality and leadership. 
 

There’s been major red flags with Cifuentes, but he has also been dealt a bad hand. 

[AjcW]

15 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

Something happening, with 'Hot' thread?

 

Guess not..

Whoareyaaa has been tucking in to the rest of the festive booze 

[winteriscoming]

4 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Only MON and even he would struggle

 

We are where we are 

Disagree. 
We have a below average championship manager in charge who we wouldn’t even have considered if he was British. 
But because he’s Spanish and gives the impression he’s inspired by Barcelona Top and Rudkin fall for him. 
I can’t accept this mediocrity. 
Millwall, Preston, Hull and Watford all above us. 
With what we’ve got at our disposal even how shit we have been we should be above those sides. 
Someone like Mowbray would have us higher in the league. 

[Dahnsouff]

2 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

Disagree. 
We have a below average championship manager in charge who we wouldn’t even have considered if he was British. 
But because he’s Spanish and gives the impression he’s inspired by Barcelona Top and Rudkin fall for him. 
I can’t accept this mediocrity. 
Millwall, Preston, Hull and Watford all above us. 
With what we’ve got at our disposal even how shit we have been we should be above those sides. 
Someone like Mowbray would have us higher in the league. 

Have we ever appointed such a short term (I assume) manager?