Can we go down?

[VLC86]

1 minute ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

If 3 bids of £50m can be put in for Sheff Weds a week after going into admin, we can find a buyer. 
 

We are an attractive proposition to someone with the right interest. 

You are probably right, but the only thing I’d say to counter that is the horrendous losses we have baked into the next few years. The Maquary (forgotten how to spell it) loans are surely now only serviceable with external funding meaning you are probably paying £200m for the club and then committing to losing that amount before you’ve even started trying to resolve our squad situation.

 

Its a huge worry, and probably makes other clubs much more attractive than us.

[The Year Of The Fox]

1 minute ago, VLC86 said:

You are probably right, but the only thing I’d say to counter that is the horrendous losses we have baked into the next few years. The Maquary (forgotten how to spell it) loans are surely now only serviceable with external funding meaning you are probably paying £200m for the club and then committing to losing that amount before you’ve even started trying to resolve our squad situation.

 

Its a huge worry, and probably makes other clubs much more attractive than us.

Yes, fair point

 

To be honest, I’d take going into administration if it meant getting rid of Top

[Nolucklcfc]

Could see this happening around late December/January last year. As someone else said, like in 22/23 we have players out of contract who will have no personal consequences to them if we do go. 
 

 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

1 hour ago, Vowels said:

Makes me laugh how many people think its as simple as 'sell the club' as if there is a 'sell the club' button. To sell something, someone needs to want to buy it. And the current owners must be prepared to sell it.

 

I don't think either of those are the case.

 

Does also beg the question why we don't just click the 'score a goal' 'win a match' 'win the cup' 'win the league' buttons more often.

 

 

Sheffield Wednesday had 60 interested parties within days of going into admin. Sixty.

[Nick]

We won’t be relegated this season.

[Thequickbrownfox]

If a limbo dancer says he's setting the bar high, is that saying he's good or bad?

[jv1]

Absolutely yes we could if they don’t make the change now - he has no clue - don’t delay it or things just get worse 

[Number 6]

We could get relegated, but I don't think we will. Probably around mid table.

 

This depends a bit on how big the deduction is and when it hits though. A 10 points hit in a couple of weeks could well drop us onto the relegation zone and we are mentally very very weak. I don't know if we'd be up for the fight. 

[LCFCJohn]

30 minutes ago, Nick said:

We won’t be relegated this season.

Why not? Where’s this confidence coming from? We look every bit one of the 3 worst sides in this league. We won’t get a bounce from a new manager and potential points deduction.

 

I’m thinking it’s more likely with every passing game.

[Clever Fox]

I haven't seen a lot to be honest, But I feel for any Manager that hasn't had a chance to bring any of his own signings into the Team.

 

What we have is a few decent players and a lot of rubbish which is not down to him. All he can do is move the players around looking to find a formula that works. 

 

A few in and out signings in January could change things.

[Terraloon]

20 minutes ago, VLC86 said:

You are probably right, but the only thing I’d say to counter that is the horrendous losses we have baked into the next few years. The Maquary (forgotten how to spell it) loans are surely now only serviceable with external funding meaning you are probably paying £200m for the club and then committing to losing that amount before you’ve even started trying to resolve our squad situation.

 

Its a huge worry, and probably makes other clubs much more attractive than us.

The way in which LCFC have used Macquarie to raise fund isn’t by way of taking loans it’s in effect to “ factor” . What that means is that cash that is due to be paid in  the future in respect of  instalments for players already sold or money due as part of the parachute payments from the PL has already been paid to LCFc by Macquarie ( who will have kept back significant sums as their commission)  who as those instalments become payable will get the payment and not LC. 

What we are seeing is that no matter which way you look at matters the club is in a terrible state.

I somehow doubt that there will be a relegation this season( unless there are two sizeable points deductions) but it’s pretty obvious that the club are spending way above its means, and has done so for some years put all that together and when the parachute payments are reduced( season 26/27)  then there will have a fire sale and once you get into that state it’s a truly downwards spiral

 

 

 

[MattFox]

3 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Sheffield Wednesday had 60 interested parties within days of going into admin. Sixty.

Up, people really want to invest in football at the moment, the Americans especially 

 

Really wouldn’t be hard to sell if they wanted too

[Nick]

2 hours ago, LCFCJohn said:

Why not? Where’s this confidence coming from? We look every bit one of the 3 worst sides in this league. We won’t get a bounce from a new manager and potential points deduction.

 

I’m thinking it’s more likely with every passing game.

Meh, a bit early yet to be reacting like that in my opinion.

[LCFCJohn]

13 minutes ago, Nick said:

Meh, a bit early yet to be reacting like that in my opinion.

I am just asking what positives you are seeing that make you think we can stay up, particularly should we get a deduction. And not things like ‘there will be 3 worse sides’ or ‘we are too good to go down’ as these are based on anything.

 

People said the same in 2022/23 but it was obvious to some of us that we were going down that season.

[Dan]

13 hours ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

We’re 10/1 on Bet365

 

 

Lump

14/1 on Paddy. That's bizarrely gone up from a couple of weeks ago where all we've done is lose.

 

Wonder if that was because of Wednesday's deduction basically meaning there are only two places now.

 

Bookies actually now think Norwich drop which is pretty mad.

[The Year Of The Fox]

8 minutes ago, Dan said:

14/1 on Paddy. That's bizarrely gone up from a couple of weeks ago where all we've done is lose.

 

Wonder if that was because of Wednesday's deduction basically meaning there are only two places now.

 

Bookies actually now think Norwich drop which is pretty mad.

We’ll give them a helping hand next week anyway 

[Ric Flair]

I would not be at all surprised if we fail PSR for 24/25 too which will be known before the end of the season.

[grth2004]

4 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Sheffield Wednesday had 60 interested parties within days of going into admin. Sixty.

I’d say thats more because investors smell a bargain with a club in administration. 
We would be sold for at least four times what Sheffield Wednesday are going for due to ownership putting over 100 million in and wanting profits out, not that I think we’re with that but that’s the value they would want. 
Plus I just can’t see our owners selling unless they have to sell due to their own business issues. 
just my opinions but I think we’re stuck with this ownership unfortunately until it becomes unfeasible. 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

8 minutes ago, grth2004 said:

I’d say thats more because investors smell a bargain with a club in administration. 
We would be sold for at least four times what Sheffield Wednesday are going for due to ownership putting over 100 million in and wanting profits out, not that I think we’re with that but that’s the value they would want. 
Plus I just can’t see our owners selling unless they have to sell due to their own business issues. 
just my opinions but I think we’re stuck with this ownership unfortunately until it becomes unfeasible. 

It was more the point that buyers would come forward if the club went on the market.

[Tommy Fresh]

Anyone think they are less likely to slap up with a big deduction if it could actually relegate us? 

[grth2004]

16 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

It was more the point that buyers would come forward if the club went on the market.

I’d hope so but the awful Shef W owner was trying to sell before administration but it fell through many times due to overvaluation and him being an ass which is probably similar to how it would go for us. 
Maybe administration would be the only way like them to move on. 

Edited 2 November 2025 by grth2004

[Blue ROI]

Too good to go down?

 

Just like in 22/23 eh...

[don_danbury]

1 hour ago, Blue ROI said:

Too good to go down?

 

Just like in 22/23 eh...

That side actually wasn't too good to go down. Shit defence and an even shitter keeper 

[RonnieTodger]

“We were in league one twice!”

[Stadt]

1 hour ago, Tommy Fresh said:

Anyone think they are less likely to slap up with a big deduction if it could actually relegate us? 

No.

 

They want their pound of flesh as we have made them look daft (mostly their own fault).