Michail Antonio.

[Mike Oxlong]

I'm assuming Luke Thomas has a hefty grapple bonus written into his 4 year contract 

[Lambert09]

43 minutes ago, MPH said:

 

I’ve never been a fan of goal bonuses. It can make a striker very selfish and perhaps take a shot when a pass would be the better option.

 

 

 

having said that, there’s probably the majority of strikers in England get some kind of goal bonuses..

That’s why the win bonus should always be far more money 

[Mike Oxlong]

Players must think they're on a bore the crap out of everyone bonus 

[Kasey Keller]

Antonio with a snapped off leg is 10x better than Daka.

[OntarioFox]

49 minutes ago, murphy said:

KDH is absolutely not the exception to the rule.  Didn't we have seven players on the pitch that had come through the academy against Derby.   

 

There are lots of reasons to rant at this club but this idea that keeps being pedalled that we don't give chances to youth is demonstrably not true. 

Honestly, while it's nice to see some new faces getting involved, we've still been cowardly in including them during a season when we had a real opportunity to integrate them. Alves and Braybrooke were both cast aside, the star boy in Monga got a handful of games before becoming a bit-part player, and the rest have drifted in and out. Nelson had a bad game in a shite team performance at Huddersfield and was cast out for months.

 

And on the flipside, I'm not going to take any pride in Thomas and Choudhury continuing to be involved - they're still here because of our board's incompetence and neither improves us - Thomas actively makes us worse and is constantly targetted, as he was yet again on Thursday with predictable results. We had the chance to sell him and instead of doing it, we gave him a massive contract extension. It's madness. The whole point of having academy players is to give them a chance and see if they're good enough. If not, you let them move on. In Thomas' case we've done that, seen he clearly isn't, and decided to persist with him with increasingly embarrassing results for six years. Meanwhile there are others like Aluko behind him in the pecking order who can't get a sniff, but we're supposed to be glad Thomas is proving we trust our academy - surely you see some of the irony?

 

KDH is the only academy lad from the past decade who has genuinely improved us, and he was sold the moment our finances went tits-up. Considering how much money we've thrown at Seagrave, we either trust the academy to be our squad's spine, which we were supposed to be doing this season, or we use it as a conveyor belt to sell talent to fund external aquisitions. The closest we've come to capturing that lightning in a bottle was somehow fooling Ipswich into parting with the wedge end of £10 million for McAteer, but none of that was even invested back into the squad - we got a few loans in return and will now be using it to pay Antonio's wages on a short term deal.

 

We're just run appallingly and have no idea what to do with our academy - if a mediocre mid-table Championship campaign isn't the time to be giving the likes of Aluko, Evans, Alves and Braybrooke first team chances then what chance would any of them ever get if by some miracle we ever did find ourselves in the top flight again? We wasted half a season letting shitheads like Faes, Soumare and Winks clog up the squad and stink out the pitch for god's sake. Let's not pretend we've really trusted the youth this season, certainly not when we've not been forced to through injury and suspension.

Edited 4 January by OntarioFox

[dbtcity]

1 hour ago, Mike Oxlong said:

I'm assuming Luke Thomas has a hefty grapple bonus written into his 4 year contract 

I was thinking a run past the player he’s supposed to be picking up/tackling bonus as I’ve lost count of the amount times he’s done it since bagging a new deal  

Edited 4 January by dbtcity

[Chrysalis]

12 hours ago, scinnell said:

Tbf I'd rather have Antonio on a short term deal as an option over Carranza. We most likely have no money to replace, and if we did I'd rather we spent that money on James. 

 

Plenty of people on here turned their nose up at Bamford, yet he has looked good at Sheffield Utd. Both are better options than anything we currently have. 

Taking an expensive punt which will be against the odds is not the way forward.

Why are people thinking Antonia will be cheap?  

Bamford was on a much lower salary, didnt have recently major injury and wasnt nearly 40.

[ClaphamFox]

5 hours ago, Chrysalis said:

Taking an expensive punt which will be against the odds is not the way forward.

Why are people thinking Antonia will be cheap?  

Bamford was on a much lower salary, didnt have recently major injury and wasnt nearly 40.

Antonio will be cheap because he’s 35 and because he’s coming back from a near-fatal accident in which he broke both of his legs. Not a single club in the country is going to offer him high wages, especially not us given our financial limitations. In fact the only reason we’re even looking at him rather than trying to sign somebody else is because we expect him to cost very little. If the deal ends up not going through, it will be because he’s asking for too much. 
 

None of which means I have much confidence that this move—if it happens—will work. I’m deeply sceptical about it. But anybody suggesting Antonio be expensive is completely missing the point about why we’re even considering him.

[SafewayFox]

46 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

Antonio will be cheap because he’s 35 and because he’s coming back from a near-fatal accident in which he broke both of his legs. Not a single club in the country is going to offer him high wages, especially not us given our financial limitations. In fact the only reason we’re even looking at him rather than trying to sign somebody else is because we expect him to cost very little. If the deal ends up not going through, it will be because he’s asking for too much. 
 

None of which means I have much confidence that this move—if it happens—will work. I’m deeply sceptical about it. But anybody suggesting Antonio be expensive is completely missing the point about why we’re even considering him.

The problem with this logic is that you’re forgetting, that we’re the club who offered Coady and Winks silly money when didn’t have it either.

 

I hope that you’re right btw, just have my doubts as we’ve hardly been run sensibly over recent years have we?

[LVFox]

If we think the answer to a clearly obvious centre forward problem is a 35 year old who’s never been prolific and has his recent medical history, then we ….well we are Leicester City aren’t we, its footballing heritage at this point.

 

He may well be better than Ayew, Carranza or Daka, but he isn’t a solution 

[ClaphamFox]

14 minutes ago, SafewayFox said:

The problem with this logic is that you’re forgetting, that we’re the club who offered Coady and Winks silly money when didn’t have it either.

 

I hope that you’re right btw, just have my doubts as we’ve hardly been run sensibly over recent years have we?

I haven’t forgotten. However we didn’t spend a single penny on a permanent transfer last summer despite the fact that the squad was desperately in need of a refresh. I also don’t expect us to spend any money this transfer window unless we somehow manage to shift Winks, Soumare, Faes, etc. On the balance of evidence I think it’s fair to conclude that financial reality has well and truly bitten and that we are not going to offer Antonio silly money.
 

In fact I suspect the reason he hasn’t signed yet is because we haven’t offered him much and he’s waiting to see if he gets any other offers. If we were offering the amount some people think we’ll offer, he’d have snapped our hand off already. 

[ClaphamFox]

18 minutes ago, LVFox said:

If we think the answer to a clearly obvious centre forward problem is a 35 year old who’s never been prolific and has his recent medical history, then we ….well we are Leicester City aren’t we, its footballing heritage at this point.

 

He may well be better than Ayew, Carranza or Daka, but he isn’t a solution 

‘Solutions’ cost money and we don’t have any. In which case ‘marginally better than our current stable of shite strikers’ might be as good as we can hope for at the moment. 

Edited 5 January by ClaphamFox

[jonny_wright]

This has to be very little a week, with pay as you play - then it’s a no brainer 

[markko]

I would think he is being very carefully assessed. He was in a serious car crash. He has suffered with injuries even before that. On the plus side he is big, quick and strong. If he can play for six months without injury he will be an asset. He seems a really likeable character so will be good around the dressing room. Ideally pay as you play deal until the summer.

[SafewayFox]

56 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

I haven’t forgotten. However we didn’t spend a single penny on a permanent transfer last summer despite the fact that the squad was desperately in need of a refresh. I also don’t expect us to spend any money this transfer window unless we somehow manage to shift Winks, Soumare, Faes, etc. On the balance of evidence I think it’s fair to conclude that financial reality has well and truly bitten and that we are not going to offer Antonio silly money.
 

In fact I suspect the reason he hasn’t signed yet is because we haven’t offered him much and he’s waiting to see if he gets any other offers. If we were offering the amount some people think we’ll offer, he’d have snapped our hand off already. 

Let’s hope that you’re right.

 

I think that I have such little faith in KPFC that I will always look at their decisions from a cynical perspective.

 

Personally, I’d love to have Evans around the match day squads more.

[Pliskin]

2 hours ago, ClaphamFox said:

Not a single club in the country is going to offer him high wages.

There must be a reason he’s training with us? 

[ClaphamFox]

Just now, Pliskin said:

There must be a reason he’s training with us? 

We’re a high-profile club that has recently fallen on bad times and has no money to spend, but is desperately in need of a striker. He’s an ageing striker who has been decent in the past but who suffered a near-fatal car accident and would be a gamble for any club to take on. It’s like a film script—we’re made for each other.

[ElusiveEd]

I can't see a problem with giving him a shot, especially with our predicament right now and the dire playing personnel we've had/have to endure each and every week.

 

I can't imagine he's going to command that higher wages that we can't afford, not in the situation he knows he's in with being post horrific car accident and being a free agent.

 

Don't forget Seagrave has state of the art training, rehab and medical facilities that offer multiple tests on everything needed to perform. I can imagine he's being/been put thro the mill to prove himself back to levels needed.

 

I'd say, come to an agreement on a contract, see how he does and if it doesn't work out for either party then so be it!

 

It really can't be anything worse than we have!

Edited 5 January by ElusiveEd

[scinnell]

8 hours ago, Chrysalis said:

Taking an expensive punt which will be against the odds is not the way forward.

Why are people thinking Antonia will be cheap?  

Bamford was on a much lower salary, didnt have recently major injury and wasnt nearly 40.

And how do you know Antonio is an expensive punt and Bamford was on a much lower salary? 

[Pliskin]

1 hour ago, ClaphamFox said:

We’re a high-profile club that has recently fallen on bad times and has no money to spend, but is desperately in need of a striker. He’s an ageing striker who has been decent in the past but who suffered a near-fatal car accident and would be a gamble for any club to take on. It’s like a film script—we’re made for each other.

I was actually being facetious, implying he’s probably training with us because we’ve indicated that we will be paying him stupid wages. 

[Stadt]

It’s funny that it looks like we will

sign Antonio but we can’t even get a free signing done quickly. Sclerotic club.

 

We barely do anything well, perfunctory at best 

[JimJams]

You've definitely taken a massive shit and use word of the day toilet paper! 

[Stadt]

2 minutes ago, JimJams said:

You've definitely taken a massive shit and use word of the day toilet paper! 

[LCFCCKEANO]

If he is going to be able to function at all this season surely having been training with Brentford for 6 months and then us for a month is more then long enough to sign him and give him 10/20 here and there. Only reasons I can think is-

A) He is not close to the level we need but we may end up signing him as a last resort like Carranza, hedging our bets

B) We can’t afford a 35 year old coming off of a car crash on a free

 

Both feel like terrible planning

[FoxFossil]

2 hours ago, Pliskin said:

There must be a reason he’s training with us? 

Seagrave hotel and spa.