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Posted
36 minutes ago, RoboFox said:

What Aiyawatt thinks is cool. Which just goes to show how out of touch he really is.

 

In reality it's the antithesis of cool. This bloke supposedly watches our games (I'm convinced he doesn't) and still wants to persist with this so-called "identity" is baffling. It's a ****ing atrocious brand of football and fast becoming a philosophy of a bygone era and he really has no idea. 

 

I think half of what he comes out with are just platitudes that he thinks fans want to hear because he's terrifyingly naive. 

 

 

I like to bang on about how much we need to get with the times. I just look at certain statistics and how much we correlate with Southampton, what are Leicester City and Southampton doing so wrong, but a club like Middlesbrough with similar statistics are doing so right.

 

10+ passes

(1) Southampton - 365

(2) Middlesbrough - 344

(4) Leicester - 310

 

Passes per sequence

(1) Southampton - 3.84

(2) Middlesbrough - 3.70

(4) Leicester - 3.51

 

Sequence time

(1) Southampton - 10.24

(2) Middlesbrough - 9.87

(3) Leicester - 9.02

 

Build ups

(1) Middlesbrough - 79

(2) Southampton - 77

(3) Leicester - 62

 

Middlesbrough have shown that playing in a certain possession based way can still bring success, but for us and Southampton why has it become so messy? 
 

Maybe it just boils down to have the right culture, successful recruitment and actually having the ability to defend, which Middlesbrough have been very successful at this season, while Leicester and Southampton have sucked. 

Posted
6 minutes ago, kingfox said:

I like to bang on about how much we need to get with the times. I just look at certain statistics and how much we correlate with Southampton, what are Leicester City and Southampton doing so wrong, but a club like Middlesbrough with similar statistics are doing so right.

 

10+ passes

(1) Southampton - 365

(2) Middlesbrough - 344

(4) Leicester - 310

 

Passes per sequence

(1) Southampton - 3.84

(2) Middlesbrough - 3.70

(4) Leicester - 3.51

 

Sequence time

(1) Southampton - 10.24

(2) Middlesbrough - 9.87

(3) Leicester - 9.02

 

Build ups

(1) Middlesbrough - 79

(2) Southampton - 77

(3) Leicester - 62

 

Middlesbrough have shown that playing in a certain possession based way can still bring success, but for us and Southampton why has it become so messy? 
 

Maybe it just boils down to have the right culture, successful recruitment and actually having the ability to defend, which Middlesbrough have been very successful at this season, while Leicester and Southampton have sucked. 

Few points there I guess:

 

Middlesbrough at the top end of the league so naturally you'd expect them to have more of the ball so that adds up.

 

How many forward passes, passes in the opposition half/final third are included here. I'd also imagine it's a lot more than us/Southampton. Can certainly guarantee there is more movement and positional rotation in the Boro team than us.

 

Off the top of my head, Southampton are probably bottom of the expected points Vs actual points table which suggests that their style of play is working to an extent, just they their execution in each box is letting them down. Whereas we're overachieving in that regard (depressing to type that).

 

I think this is the point you were sort of making but it shows that this statistics are super limited as they're not showing the intent/full outcomes. Also that the overarching style of play is not the most important thing, but more about what you're using that to achieve.

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Posted
26 minutes ago, kingfox said:

I like to bang on about how much we need to get with the times. I just look at certain statistics and how much we correlate with Southampton, what are Leicester City and Southampton doing so wrong, but a club like Middlesbrough with similar statistics are doing so right.

 

10+ passes

(1) Southampton - 365

(2) Middlesbrough - 344

(4) Leicester - 310

 

Passes per sequence

(1) Southampton - 3.84

(2) Middlesbrough - 3.70

(4) Leicester - 3.51

 

Sequence time

(1) Southampton - 10.24

(2) Middlesbrough - 9.87

(3) Leicester - 9.02

 

Build ups

(1) Middlesbrough - 79

(2) Southampton - 77

(3) Leicester - 62

 

Middlesbrough have shown that playing in a certain possession based way can still bring success, but for us and Southampton why has it become so messy? 
 

Maybe it just boils down to have the right culture, successful recruitment and actually having the ability to defend, which Middlesbrough have been very successful at this season, while Leicester and Southampton have sucked. 

Very valid point this. People want us to play fast direct football, do you actually think any of the current bunch are capable of that? 
 

Sure we could definitely be quicker but the quality of players available certainly wouldn’t be able to play similar football to the title winning side. Too much running. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Ron Judkin said:

Very valid point this. People want us to play fast direct football, do you actually think any of the current bunch are capable of that? 
 

Sure we could definitely be quicker but the quality of players available certainly wouldn’t be able to play similar football to the title winning side. Too much running. 

Yes we could, but would have to be the younger players, midfield, attack wise

Posted
7 minutes ago, Ron Judkin said:

Very valid point this. People want us to play fast direct football, do you actually think any of the current bunch are capable of that? 
 

Sure we could definitely be quicker but the quality of players available certainly wouldn’t be able to play similar football to the title winning side. Too much running. 

They aren't capable of playing the slow, possession based style that we currently play so we are losing absolutely nothing by giving it a bash. 

Posted
1 hour ago, ramboacdc said:

I am one of those who backs the BBC, so I would say they have never had to bend over to an interviewee before. Stringer got his marching orders from Pearson, but that was mostly personal and the BBC weren't banned. 

If they say it wasn't staged or edited, I am going to be that person in the camp that believes that. I know others won't though. 

You are correct. Hardly any media outlet would agree to share questions in advance or allow the club to edit the interview afterwards, and the BBC definitely wouldn’t. It’s the kind of thing some people outside of the media imagine happens but almost never does in reality.

Posted
23 minutes ago, Ron Judkin said:

Very valid point this. People want us to play fast direct football, do you actually think any of the current bunch are capable of that? 

Just imagine the full majesty of Ayew, finally unleashed from his shackles, marauding up the pitch like a whippet on red bull. 

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Posted
37 minutes ago, dmayne7 said:

Few points there I guess:

 

Middlesbrough at the top end of the league so naturally you'd expect them to have more of the ball so that adds up.

 

How many forward passes, passes in the opposition half/final third are included here. I'd also imagine it's a lot more than us/Southampton. Can certainly guarantee there is more movement and positional rotation in the Boro team than us.

 

Off the top of my head, Southampton are probably bottom of the expected points Vs actual points table which suggests that their style of play is working to an extent, just they their execution in each box is letting them down. Whereas we're overachieving in that regard (depressing to type that).

 

I think this is the point you were sort of making but it shows that this statistics are super limited as they're not showing the intent/full outcomes. Also that the overarching style of play is not the most important thing, but more about what you're using that to achieve.

But you have teams like West Brom and Swansea who favour a more possession based approach, both struggling in the bottom half with us and Southampton. Middlesbrough are clearly doing something right in their approach, while certain other teams aren’t. 
 

In terms of forward passes & final third passes, there’s separate stats for them…

 

Forward Pass%

Southampton - 24th

Middlesbrough - 23rd

Leicester - 18th

 

Final third passes

Middlesbrough - 1st

Southampton - 5th

Leicester - 10th


Southampton rank 2nd for xG, which they are underperforming on, but very much like ourselves, their defensive stats are just as shit.

 

Have teams just worked out the likes of Leicester and Southampton, to the point where we’re just too predictable in our approach.

 

There’s been many calls for us to ditch our laboured style of play, something’s not working somewhere and the stats prove it. 

Posted
51 minutes ago, Scotch said:

They aren't capable of playing the slow, possession based style that we currently play so we are losing absolutely nothing by giving it a bash. 

Never said they are, but let’s not pretend you’d suddenly get Ayew making runs like Vardy and Skipp pinging balls like Drinkwater. 

Posted (edited)
8 hours ago, dmayne7 said:

Of course that's ok? I was simply asking why you've come to that conclusion. You don't owe me an answer at all but you're reasoning is basically 'because'. 

 

If we're being really kind to Top, he's just incredibly naïve, ignorant and gullible. But the reality is, there are countless examples over the past few years where he's shown that he is not interested or it's all about his ego, and next to nothing that shows he actually cares. The fact you can't substantiate why you think he does care is testament to that.

He is utterly incompetent and all the evidence shows he is incapable of running King Power and Leicester City Football Club.
 

Whilst I agree he is naive and gullible the rest is speculation, much like my reading of his intentions and motivations from the brief excerpt of his interview with OPA. I may of course revise my view once I’ve listened to the full interview tomorrow.

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Posted
58 minutes ago, Blueman1967 said:

Yes we could, but would have to be the younger players, midfield, attack wise

The same young players that will be physically outmatched and bullied? People love to say play the youth, but fail to understand why no U-21 team has ever and will ever win the EFL Trophy or whatever it’s called. 

Posted
2 hours ago, Jackubu said:

Not sure people's conspiracy theories about the BBC run as deep as Owynn but the conflation did make me laugh. 

They don't. I like Owynn. But the post generalised about the BBC as a whole and how trustworthy they supposedly are.

Posted
2 hours ago, ramboacdc said:


If they are pissing off people on both sides I say that means they are being impartial as they can be. I always sit politically that they favour the side I don't, but the other side also claim the same, so there is always a middle ground and if you were pleasing everyone, you are doing something wrong. 

They piss people off because they cover up for Paedophiles 

Posted
43 minutes ago, Ron Judkin said:

Very valid point this. People want us to play fast direct football, do you actually think any of the current bunch are capable of that? 
 

Sure we could definitely be quicker but the quality of players available certainly wouldn’t be able to play similar football to the title winning side. Too much running. 

But on the other hand, you could easily say where is our current approach getting us?

 

I’ve been calling for a more fast direct approach myself, because more teams are adopting it and having success in doing so. 
 

Coventry, Millwall and Ipswich all rank in the top 8 for direct speed. 
 

If you’re going to persist with a possession based style approach, something needs tweaking somewhere. Getting our defence fixed would also help matters lol 

Posted
46 minutes ago, kingfox said:

But on the other hand, you could easily say where is our current approach getting us?

 

I’ve been calling for a more fast direct approach myself, because more teams are adopting it and having success in doing so. 
 

Coventry, Millwall and Ipswich all rank in the top 8 for direct speed. 
 

If you’re going to persist with a possession based style approach, something needs tweaking somewhere. Getting our defence fixed would also help matters lol 

I’m not saying it’s wrong in the slightest, although Cov and Ipswich still very much play possession based. 
 

I’m simply saying the players can’t do it. 

Posted
4 hours ago, Legend_in_blue said:

I cannot understand and get my head around how he thinks promotion is still on the cards.

 

And if that doesn't work out, laugh, shrug it off and get promotion next year instead.

 

He'll be lucky to see us get promoted in League 1 the way things are at present.

 

Read the room!!!

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DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR 

Posted

Yeah I caved in and listened. The full thing is a corker apparently. Absolutely guaranteed to come out of it looking ridiculous.

 

Just go. Idiot.

Posted
On 25/01/2026 at 19:28, Trev3939 said:

The thing that annoyed me was Top’s arrogant laugh after he was asked what the plan would be for next year if we weren’t promoted this year, where he answered “promotion” with that cocky laugh. He just does not understand the situation 

He's totally delusional. The entire thing will be a self-own.

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Posted
51 minutes ago, Dmitry said:

Vichai had four children. It's about time to give another one a go at the club. 

Yeah we got the one who Vichai sent to the mountains to train as a monk… clearly it was done as a response to this fellas idiocy 

Posted
2 hours ago, KFS said:

Yeah we got the one who Vichai sent to the mountains to train as a monk… clearly it was done as a response to this fellas idiocy 

Some might say the runt of the litter.

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