Bilal El Khannouss to Stuttgart Permanent - Confirmed by Stuttgart

[CornwallFox]

4 hours ago, AKCJ said:

Made a loss on a player with £50-60m potential.

 

 

Just Leicester things.

He wouldn't be at stutgart if we were overrun with teams thinking he'll be worth £60m 

[Lambert09]

34 minutes ago, Stadt said:

Because we're losing money hand over fist, we've lost a player that we need to replace (amongst lots of other players). He cost us £21m and Stuttgart said they've bought him for £17m (less any loan fee, don't know what that was). How is the shortfall funded? I'd wager Stuttgart haven't been paying 100% of his wages either.

I think you would be right in what you’re saying if we were a prem club or just in a good spot financially. But we couldn’t afford to keep him unless he was fully committed to the cause.  Because keeping him would have meant no incomings as well as putting us in a worse financial spot. 
 

As soon as we learnt he wasn’t happy to stay the best thing we could do was get him out for as much as possible. If they were the only club to come to the table, that he’d be willing to join, then simply they had all the power.  I don’t think we can be too harsh on the club on this one, as we were actively trying to sell him but other clubs wouldn’t come in at the price we wanted. So we ended up having to take what we could. 
 

It’s easy to say it’s a bad deal, but if nobody is paying more what can you do?  If this had been done a week earlier… yes give the club hell. But it was a last minute deal and whether or not we could have got them higher is something only they know the answer to. 
 

With the wide scout networks, if you push a club who value your player at 20m to pay 25, more often than not, they just move to a player on their list that they do value at 25m 

[Stadt]

1 hour ago, moore_94 said:

Pretty sure it was meant to be the loan fee and future fee would equal what we paid for him, which gives us a good profit for PSR as well

 

51 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

But we were relegated, he didn’t want to be here, no one met his release. They left it to the last minute to organise a deal, if no one came in for him and we got him off the wages this season that’s a plus.

I’m not sure what else the club could do, if they turned down the offer and payed 6 months of wages why he sits around doing nothing with his value dwindling even more plus minus over a million in wages from the original negotiation.

Plus there was a chance that the other club would’ve moved on to another target.

I guess the club also thought they safeguarded themselves by adding a low release clause upon signing him to mitigate risk.

I find it difficult to believe we couldn’t have turned a £3m or so profit and that Stuttgart had hard red line at £17m rather than paying £20m. They were flush with cash, they chanced their arm and we went along with it.

If he did just go on strike it wouldn’t have done his reputation any favours and I can’t blame the club for not taking the risk - but why weren’t trying to sort this earlier? 

 

[PaulW]

5 hours ago, AKCJ said:

Made a loss on a player with £50-60m potential.

 

 

Just Leicester things.

Can't use potential to balance PSR requirements, plus he didn't want to play for us, and was sulking eventually to engineer a move.

Edited 25 March by PaulW

[moore_94]

22 minutes ago, Stadt said:

 

I find it difficult to believe we couldn’t have turned a £3m or so profit and that Stuttgart had hard red line at £17m rather than paying £20m. They were flush with cash, they chanced their arm and we went along with it.

If he did just go on strike it wouldn’t have done his reputation any favours and I can’t blame the club for not taking the risk - but why weren’t trying to sort this earlier? 

 

Probably says a lot about the value seen in him last summer by other clubs if that was the best deal we could get and Stuttgart seemingly had a straight shot at him with no competition

 

No one was willing to pay his release clause and Palace chose to pay £26m for Pino instead

[Dan]

Even when they sign the right profile they somehow manage to see literally zero benefit. The most incompetent people in football.

[AKCJ]

12 minutes ago, PaulW said:

Can't use potential to balance PSR requirements, plus he didn't want to play for us, and was sulking eventually to engineer a move.

You can't always have a go at the player. Need to look at why so many talented players here down tools.

 

El Khannouss was brought here because of his potential. We saw his potential after one season in the Premier League and immediately accepted a poor offer for him because the club had backed itself into a corner financially.

 

It's all in keeping with life under Aiyawatt and Rudkin. They have hand crafted this toxic atmosphere and culture at the club in which talented players cannot thrive here and untalented players rule the roost. We are completely unable to retain players we'd prefer to keep or sell players we'd like to be shot of.

 

Sick of the club acting in the best interests of whatever is easiest as opposed to having some proper conversations about why the club is in such a mess. The problem is that the only two men seemingly with the authority to start those conversations are precisely the two that know it would end up with them having to leave.

 

This club doesn't make reliable and sound decisions consistently until Rudkin and Aiyawatt leave. For every player we bring in like Fatawu or James (genuine 10/10 transfers for clubs at this level) we sign 15 Harry Winks, Connor Coadys, Joe Aribos etc. We will not move on until Jon and Aiyawatt do.

 

We are only in PSR problems because of those two. We were the envy of every club outside of the traditional big 6 (you could even make a case that Arsenal and Spurs would have swapped positions with us) and we completely pissed it up the wall. Nothing to do with having to worry about PSR and entirely because we're being run by two ****wits of the highest order who couldn't run a bath.

[Stadt]

20 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Probably says a lot about the value seen in him last summer by other clubs if that was the best deal we could get and Stuttgart seemingly had a straight shot at him with no competition

 

No one was willing to pay his release clause and Palace chose to pay £26m for Pino instead

Pino isn’t a 10 so not like for like.

 

I think we’re bad at actually drumming up interest. He wouldn’t have been on a massive wage - reading between the lines I don’t think we sure of notify that player X is for sale well.

 

I just refuse to believe we couldn’t eke out say £3m more from Stuttgart

[AjcW]

1 hour ago, CornwallFox said:

He wouldn't be at stutgart if we were overrun with teams thinking he'll be worth £60m 

I mean he's literally gone to Stuttgart to show he's worth that, and had a really good first season, particularly in Europe. They'll sell him for that much in a few years i've no doubt.

[Mike Oxlong]

Shame. Would have liked to see him grace League One with his talent 

[CornwallFox]

10 minutes ago, AjcW said:

I mean he's literally gone to Stuttgart to show he's worth that, and had a really good first season, particularly in Europe. They'll sell him for that much in a few years i've no doubt.

Don't even know what "he's literally gone Stuttgart to show he's worth that" even means. 

No he hasn't. 

He's gone to Stuttgart to play football as the only team offering what we got for him. 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

I wonder when this will be confirmed by LCFC. November maybe?

[Stadt]

2 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

I wonder when this will be confirmed by LCFC. November maybe?

He'll be the face of September in the EFL League 1 Leicester City 2026/2027 Season 

[DezFox]

5 hours ago, Stadt said:

Inb4

 

Well we got relegated, we’re not going to get [market value] loads for him!

 

No end product last season anyway 
 

Good riddance, willy puller.

 

 

But it’s another fumble and unforced error because Rudkin just can’t negotiate at all. The one player we have sold for way over his market value in the last 10 years was Maguire, when Whelan stepped in ffs 

Dibbling, Hutchinson, Fernandez….. why can WE not get market value? 

[moore_94]

23 minutes ago, Stadt said:

Pino isn’t a 10 so not like for like.

 

I think we’re bad at actually drumming up interest. He wouldn’t have been on a massive wage - reading between the lines I don’t think we sure of notify that player X is for sale well.

 

I just refuse to believe we couldn’t eke out say £3m more from Stuttgart

Been playing as a 10 but drifting wide, which is what Bilal has been doing this season for Stuttgart

 

If Palace had signed Bilal, they wouldn’t have then signed Pino as well

[GLC]

[filbertway]

If only there was some bloody evidence of players going to German teams that play in Europe who are used as a platform for a bigger move...

 

I mean if you don't rate him and don't think he'll amount to much then that's fine. Saying that he won't be worth a lot more in future because Stuttgart have signed him now is just absurd haha.

 

Not even used Dortmund.

 

Leipzig

 

 

 

 

Stuttgart

 

 

 

Frankfurt

 

 

[AjcW]

31 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

Don't even know what "he's literally gone Stuttgart to show he's worth that" even means. 

No he hasn't. 

He's gone to Stuttgart to play football as the only team offering what we got for him. 

It means he was meant to show it with us, but wasn't about to try and do that in the Championship. So he moved to a similar sized Bundesliga team (in relation to if he'd got a prem move to Palace etc) to start again. What I mean is he'll get that big money move from Stuttgart now that he's showing what he's capable of.

Edited 25 March by AjcW

[Stadt]

...and if Stuttgart were so adamant they couldn't cough up £25m so we just actually made a profit, structure a deal with add-ons so they would be happy to pay any additional.

 

He's on 12 G+A from about 25 nineties, I'm sure right now they'd be happy to pay £30m+ for him.

[OntarioFox]

I'm gonna be controversial here - we overpaid for him in the first place and, unless a Prem club was daft enough to go in for him, this was the best we were going to get.

 

He had a few good games in a historically shit relegated squad. Nothing more. Any club would be mad to throw more than £20 million at that, even with the insane inflation in the English game. He's been okay at Stuttgart, not world-beating or EPL-level. He's young but it's highly questionable what his ceiling actually is. As it stands, a mid-table club in a European league is about right, and none in that bracket would pay us more than what we're getting.

 

Factor in that we're an absolute basket case, he was refusing to play for us in the second tier and, if he had come back with his tail between his legs he might find himself getting chunks hacked out of him in the third, and he's never going to gain value again while on our books unless we kept loaning him out and hoping someone blinked first. Yes it's a f*** up from Dudkin once again, but only inasmuch as us paying money we didn't have gambling on a young player we arguably never needed with Buonanotte already loaned for that position. It's more brainless transfer business at a time when we were supposed to be cutting the wage bill and relying on lawyers to avoid penalties. The rest is history.

 

Oh and he wants to play for a national side who steal towels and trophies, not a good look. 

[Stadt]

2 minutes ago, OntarioFox said:

I'm gonna be controversial here - we overpaid for him in the first place and, unless a Prem club was daft enough to go in for him, this was the best we were going to get.

 

He had a few good games in a historically shit relegated squad. Nothing more. Any club would be mad to throw more than £20 million at that, even with the insane inflation in the English game. He's been okay at Stuttgart, not world-beating or EPL-level. He's young but it's highly questionable what his ceiling actually is. As it stands, a mid-table club in a European league is about right, and none in that bracket would pay us more than what we're getting.

 

Factor in that we're an absolute basket case, he was refusing to play for us in the second tier and, if he had come back with his tail between his legs he might find himself getting chunks hacked out of him in the third, and he's never going to gain value again while on our books unless we kept loaning him out and hoping someone blinked first. Yes it's a f*** up from Dudkin once again, but only inasmuch as us paying money we didn't have gambling on a young player we arguably never needed with Buonanotte already loaned for that position. It's more brainless transfer business at a time when we were supposed to be cutting the wage bill and relying on lawyers to avoid penalties. The rest is history.

 

Oh and he wants to play for a national side who steal towels and trophies, not a good look. 

We paid c. £20m for him in 2024, we paid about £17m for Ndidi 7 years prior - completely the going rate for a promising AM in Belgium. Sunderland paid similar for two players from there this summer jus gone.

 

Stuttgart are 3rd atm btw and he has 12 G+A in about 25 nineties so he's doing more than okay. Although I agree on the Buonanotte point.

[adam1]

3 hours ago, PaulW said:

Can't use potential to balance PSR requirements, plus he didn't want to play for us, and was sulking eventually to engineer a move.

Can't use his sale to balance PSR because apparantly we already took a loan/downpayment of the expected amount with % of that amount going to the bank. 

 

Geniuses at this club.

[Andrew]

Waste of space who was desperate to leave. Self obsessed knob who will do the same to Stuttgart before the end of next season. 

 

Glad to see the back of him.

[AyewJoking]

farewell sweet prince

[Pita]

Goodbye to the sulky twat