Toxic club - an inconvenient truth about our fans

[CosbehFox]

56 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

Norwich lost a few games in a row and their fans barricaded the board in the stadium. They sacked their manager and promised change (which they delivered on).

 

In the same game we sang a few hurty words about Rudkin and Aiyawatt and the club put out statements saying how out of order we were.

 

 

There are levels to how cucked most Leicester fans are.

Tbf the Norwich game the chant about Rudkin went way over a line 

Edited 3 hours ago by CosbehFox

[It'sblueupnorth]

14 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

Tbf the Norwich fame the chant about Rudkin went way over a line 

But it was accurate

[AKCJ]

17 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

Tbf the Norwich fame the chant about Rudkin went way over a line 

Which one?

[Foxin_Mad]

17 minutes ago, hackneyfox said:

Stop booing players?

Im no fan of booing but I get why people do it. Some of the performances from our players over the past 18 months have been disgusting, darn right disrespectful if I am honest. I am not really sure what fans can offer when the players offer nothing. If there was some fight the fans would get behind that, its the way there were certain games where they just went through the motions, did the bare minimum they needed. 

[Foxin_Mad]

18 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

Tbf the Norwich fame the chant about Rudkin went way over a line 

I'm not actually sure it was. Its just hurty words. Rudkin can remove himself at anytime. Instead he has basically stood up this week and said **** you to the entire fan base, he is a toxic vile creature and vile get vile back. 

[CosbehFox]

13 minutes ago, It'sblueupnorth said:

But it was accurate

 

8 minutes ago, Foxin_Mad said:

I'm not actually sure it was. Its just hurty words. Rudkin can remove himself at anytime. Instead he has basically stood up this week and said **** you to the entire fan base, he is a toxic vile creature and vile get vile back. 

The song at Norwich included the lines ‘How we kill him, I don’t know. Chop him up from head to toe’ 

 

Are you both advocating that? 

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[hackneyfox]

9 minutes ago, Foxin_Mad said:

Im no fan of booing but I get why people do it. Some of the performances from our players over the past 18 months have been disgusting, darn right disrespectful if I am honest. I am not really sure what fans can offer when the players offer nothing. If there was some fight the fans would get behind that, its the way there were certain games where they just went through the motions, did the bare minimum they needed. 

Reading some of the comments on here it sounds like some are determined to carry on booing. My take is that it’s time to cut that out and actually support the team on the pitch at least until people know for sure that some individuals still don’t care and the football is rancid to watch.

[hackneyfox]

10 minutes ago, Foxin_Mad said:

I'm not actually sure it was. Its just hurty words. Rudkin can remove himself at anytime. Instead he has basically stood up this week and said **** you to the entire fan base, he is a toxic vile creature and vile get vile back. 

How has he said **** you to the fans this week?

[hackneyfox]

4 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

 

The song at Norwich included the lines ‘:How we kill him, I don’t know. Chop him up from head to toe’ 

There is no excuse for that.

[Foxin_Mad]

17 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

 

The song at Norwich included the lines ‘How we kill him, I don’t know. Chop him up from head to toe’ 

 

Are you both advocating that? 

I have personally never heard that song and obviously dont advocate it. That said he makes a choice to put himself continually in the limelight in football (rightly or wrongly), where chants like that happen (Glazers, Woodword, Ashley etc). People will make those chants. Certainly in British football I am not aware that a chant has been carried out. He can remove himself at any point. 

 

14 minutes ago, hackneyfox said:

Reading some of the comments on here it sounds like some are determined to carry on booing. My take is that it’s time to cut that out and actually support the team on the pitch at least until people know for sure that some individuals still don’t care and the football is rancid to watch.

I agree, I will certainly hope Martin proves me wrong and that he can produce a young side that shows some fight,  maybe scores a few goals, wins a few. That would be a start

 

13 minutes ago, hackneyfox said:

How has he said **** you to the fans this week?

He has employed the bloke the majority of the fan base didnt want, persisting with a style of football the majority of fans dont want, takes no accountability, comes out with a word salad about 'high standards' which is something we havent actually seen for some time. Then stands in the press conference grinning. The optics arent great for the fella, he doesnt make himself likeable. He could come out with a proper statement, addressing the errors, explaining lessons learnt and explaining how what he has done is going to rectify it. Of course he instead doubles down because that is who he is. He is toxic and toxicity and failure comes with him. I think while he remains it unlikely anything changes, He is the only one who cant see that. 

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[Phil Mitchell]

 

[murphy]

If only the passengers on The Titanic had been more positive, it probably wouldn't have sunk.  Its all their fault!

[adejo92]

Its not nearly toxic enough.

 

We've rolled over and watched our club be destroyed.

 

Not many other fan bases are as weak as us.

[CosbehFox]

34 minutes ago, Foxin_Mad said:

I have personally never heard that song and obviously dont advocate it. That said he makes a choice to put himself continually in the limelight in football (rightly or wrongly), where chants like that happen (Glazers, Woodword, Ashley etc). People will make those chants. Certainly in British football I am not aware that a chant has been carried out. He can remove himself at any point. 

That was the chant at Norwich away game (mentioned here) and it was after that game the club released the statement hence the discussion. The Top chant was far more subjective in my opinion rather than claims it was racism. 

 

To aside the lost irony of that whole episode was that it was coked up young lads at half time singing it. Not the idea of what our fanbase thinks the 'Toxic Corner' is. Yet Union FS and by extension that corner got the blame for toxicity - the chanting never got to that level but the old BS happy to ignore young lads who might actually swing back at Norwich but happy to pick on a couple of lads at Sheffield United and a fan group what have to be diplomatic to maintain a presence. Much like the club really - why tackle the epidemic of heavy drug abuse in our ends ? When you can hard armed at others instead? 

 

The problem at LCFC now is on all sides, there's too much history and it needs a sweep. Over the summer though, it's only the fanbase which looks like it's done that. 

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[Corky]

If you don't like the fans behaviour, go and follow another club.

[murphy]

This club has been run into the ground by the most epic and continuous series of management failures that just keep coming.  Rudkin is now a parody of himself.   These failures and decisions are far too numerous to list.

 

The playing squad has disgraced itself.  The most expensively assembled squad in championship history with the biggest wage bill in championship history has just got itself relegated to league one with barely a murmur.  They have showed a complete absence of professional pride.

 

We should be up in arms about it.  For the op to apportion blame to the fans for this dereliction of duty is an absolute insult.  That can f*** the f*** off!

[Blueman1967]

Alot of work to be done by the club, and a manager, who the jury is out on, but lets hope we as a club, have level out

[21st Century Fox]

“Thank you for my free Chang” *pulls down pants to present anus”.

[Foxin_Mad]

 

 

35 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

That was the chant at Norwich away game (mentioned here) and it was after that game the club released the statement hence the discussion. The Top chant was far more subjective in my opinion rather than claims it was racism. 

 

To aside the lost irony of that whole episode was that it was coked up young lads at half time singing it. Not the idea of what our fanbase thinks the 'Toxic Corner' is. Yet Union FS and by extension that corner got the blame for toxicity - the chanting never got to that level but the old BS happy to ignore young lads who might actually swing back at Norwich but happy to pick on a couple of lads at Sheffield United and a fan group what have to be diplomatic to maintain a presence. Much like the club really - why tackle the epidemic of heavy drug abuse in our ends ? When you can hard armed at others instead? 

 

The problem at LCFC now is on all sides, there's too much history and it needs a sweep. Over the summer though, it's only the fanbase which looks like it's done that. 

One of the reasons I stopped going to away games was the coked up lads, its not my bag and id rather be away from that. I personally find UFS largely positive, they try to back the team but my god its been hard to back some of the crap the last few years. We cant just have bots clapping because they feel they ought to 'back the lads blindly'. I am all for backing the lads but the lads need to give something I can back. I agree there is a lot of division amongst the fans, we all essentially want the same thing but have different views on what the problems are and how to solve them. I suppose people have to do what suits them. Ill listen to anyones reason and debate and I will try and give a new manager some time, I think most will, I just feel maybe enough hasnt changed to make a difference but maybe Martin is the right man and the right time, that can happen and it may fix some of the issues.

 

40 minutes ago, Corky said:

If you don't like the fans behaviour, go and follow another club.

If only it were that easy! 

[Manwell Pablo]

5 hours ago, LeePhilpottsBaldSpot said:

Yes - we’re shit. The board avoid accountability, plenty of players are bellends and the club is a mess. On top of that, the atmosphere online and in the ground has become properly toxic. I find this really quite sad because the club has pulled me out of some dark places in my life.

 

For about five years I've thought there are three warring camps at Leicester City:

 

• the board
• the players
• the fans

 

Each camp blames the other two and thinks they don’t need to change themselves - it's the other guys' fault. If they changed, we'd be fine. Each mindset feeds the spiral. Every 4 months we sack a manager as a sacrificial lamb, and the three camps continue. I'm not saying each camp is equally to blame - I'd say 50% board, 35% players, 15% fans. The maddening thing is that if any camp improved, the others would too - but no camp is willing to change.

 

Just look at this place: months/years of posting hate threads on Ayew (103 pages), Winks (171), Rowett (179), Kristiansen (49), King Power (338). Be honest - how much new is being said now? Will posting a 339th page find a billionaire to buy out King Power? Will a 172nd page on Harry Winks find a club to take on his wages. There’s already multiple negative threads about Russell Martin and the poor sod's been in post for about two days.

 

I’m not saying stop criticising, just that endlessly piling on the same targets creates a circle of toxicity that clearly hinders the club. We’re still Leicester City fans, and we’ve seen plenty of times when we've pulled out of dire situations with a bit of unity. I don't think it will happen when we're just relentlessly moaning - especially about things that can't be changed or players / managers that have already left the club.

 

This thread will probably die on its arse after a few laughing emojis and snippy replies, and maybe I'm wrong and that's the 'right' way to support the club these days. But personally, I’d rather try to reset the tone more to the club I fell in love with as a child than keep adding pages and pages to the same old hate threads.

 

Anyone else up for that?

 

Oh, mate.

 

You've answered your own question in a way. Yes there is nothing we can do, apart from push for change at the top, not try and "unite" and drag the club out of the hole it is in.

 

I will say again, shit flows down hill, when you've got incompetents at the top they make stupid footballing decisions, stupid footballing decisions lead to frustrated players, poorly appointed player, over paid players, unsuitable managers, incorrect club setup, money being spent borrowed and invested in the wrong area's, I could go on.

 

This then finally filters down to the fans, who literally just have to watch this shit storm, and they have a right to.

 

Problem is any fanbase contains a wide demographic, a few of them don't understand where it all goes wrong and moan about the wrong things (what you are alluding to)  a few do and want to try and make a few quid complaining about it, a lot seem to think the answer to this very serious problem is to just "pull together" like yourself. None of this will work.

 

If we are to pull together it needs to be in a complete objection to King Power, at least, selling shares to another major owner who have a say in what goes on, and get's rid of Jon Rudkin. 

 

I mean the appointment or Martin sums Rudkin up. We will hold the ball and win most games by a narrow margin next season imo, he will have everyone of his back for a bit, but the minute we go up we will be lower mid table at best for a few years and the club has gone nowhere, and Jon Rudkin has another 3/4 years stealing a living of us before he retires.

 

 

[Ian Nacho]

Park life. 

[Percy Thrower]

1 hour ago, Phil Mitchell said:

 

Tune!

[LeePhilpottsBaldSpot]

56 minutes ago, murphy said:

If only the passengers on The Titanic had been more positive, it probably wouldn't have sunk.  Its all their fault!

Classic internet response - mocking a point I didn't make. I’ve said the club’s a shambles, and most of the blame sits with the board and players. But relentless fan negativity plays a part too - and elements of this thread proves it 

 

I'm not sure fans hate posting in a Jordan Ayew thread all summer will avoid any icebergs.

There's a difference between holding the club to account and having an addiction to moaning. Our 'fans' are spending a summer adding to a 100+ page hate thread for an ex-player and a 300+ page 'King Power Out' thread that won't generate a new billionaire owner. Same mentality as booing a player coming on as a sub, chanting about murdering Rudkin and going on GB News saying you want us to get relegated because you hate the board.

 

My point remains: the board have overseen failure after failure. The players have performed below their pay grade. As a result, the fan atmosphere is toxic.

 

Yet it feels to me like:

• the board think it's the players and fans' fault - so don't change
• the players think it's the board and fans' fault - so don't change
• the fans think it's he board and players' fault - so don't change

Rinse and repeat. A culture where nobody recognises fault brings no change, and the downward spiral continues.

[Manwell Pablo]

9 minutes ago, LeePhilpottsBaldSpot said:

Classic internet response - mocking a point I didn't make. I’ve said the club’s a shambles, and most of the blame sits with the board and players. But relentless fan negativity plays a part too - and elements of this thread proves it 

 

I'm not sure fans hate posting in a Jordan Ayew thread all summer will avoid any icebergs.

There's a difference between holding the club to account and having an addiction to moaning. Our 'fans' are spending a summer adding to a 100+ page hate thread for an ex-player and a 300+ page 'King Power Out' thread that won't generate a new billionaire owner. Same mentality as booing a player coming on as a sub, chanting about murdering Rudkin and going on GB News saying you want us to get relegated because you hate the board.

 

My point remains: the board have overseen failure after failure. The players have performed below their pay grade. As a result, the fan atmosphere is toxic.

 

Yet it feels to me like:

• the board think it's the players and fans' fault - so don't change
• the players think it's the board and fans' fault - so don't change
• the fans think it's he board and players' fault - so don't change

Rinse and repeat. A culture where nobody recognises fault brings no change, and the downward spiral continues.

 

Don't accuse other people of being typically internet oreintatated when you have been passive aggressive as f*ck in your OP with your "I'm sure I'll only get snipey remarks and laughing emojis" but then decide to ignore every decent reply you've got and then focus on the ones that are fulfilling your expectations. 

 

Smacks of someone who wants a arguement as opposed to a converstation and if there is one critiscsm I'll have of our fanbase it's we do that far to much so you are just being the very thing you are complaining about.

[The whole world smiles]

The frustrating thing about our toxic fans is not only are they utterly toxic but they are also unbelievably useless and lazy as fuch to boot. 

 

Making zero progress in applying pressure to force the Thais out. They can't even get Rudkin out. The so called "protests" are an absolute embarrassment with a few cretins holding soggy miss spelt signs. And several failed go fund me's. They cant even get themselves into a organised group with a name. 

 

They are fickle as fuch too with the Rudkin out chanting completely grinding to halt for the Maresca season. 

 

They are also incabeable of understanding nuance other City fans are in their minds either as toxic as them or some kind of King Power fan boys. The idea that you can think the club is a shit show but not agree with their ineffective, self destructive toxicity is totally alien to them. 

 

All they have succeeded in achieving is turning foxes talk into a boring miserable echo chamber contributing negatively to the clubs chances of success. 

 

I will end my rant with a question to the toxic boys how close out of 10 do you think King Power is to selling up due to fan pressure? And has that number changed over the last 4 years?