Guest ttfn Posted 23 February 2008 Posted 23 February 2008 This football club is now rotten to its core. The players don't want to play with any heart, the chairman's in it to make a fast buck (fine, as long as it works out for everyone) and fans who have turned the Walkers into an intimidating place not for opponents, but for Leicester. Ok, we've had little positive to shout about so it's not the fans' fault but the negativity helps nobody. So start again. Get rid of ALL the first team squad except young Mattock, who hopefully is yet to be corrupted by the cynicism. For me, I'd be sad to see Kisnorbo and Fryatt leave. In the right circumstances they'd be quality players for the club (in a way, Kisnorbo has been regardless of the chaos). I literally could not care less about the rest of them. Start again by buying up a load of players who actually want to play for this football club. At least when we had no money it meant that players were coming here because they wanted to play for Leicester City and not because they wanted more money. It may seem like a very radical solution but its the only way to cure this club of its negativity. All the players are infected by it. I'd rather have Gradel and Beswick playing for this team than a load of mercenaries who are at Leicester for one last pay day. Poor Ian Holloway's going to lose his job at this rate because his players are motivated more by money than the badge. Stoke and Bristol City have shown what can be achieved through pride in the shirt, and Leicester have shown what a reckless disregard for the time and money spent by their supporters can do to a club.
danny. Posted 23 February 2008 Posted 23 February 2008 another stupid kneejerk post this forum is pathetic sometimes
Bezzanator89 Posted 23 February 2008 Posted 23 February 2008 The players don't get much money as it is! The team selection's a bit OTT though, Mattock's not the only player I would keep.
Manwell Pablo Posted 23 February 2008 Posted 23 February 2008 another stupid kneejerk postthis forum is pathetic sometimes Bad aint it, it never used to be like this.
Guest ttfn Posted 23 February 2008 Posted 23 February 2008 I'm sorry but if I'm not allowed to express a radical viewpoint what is the point in having a forum at all? It's not kneejerk, I've been putting up with rubbish for years, it's something I've said many times in the past. Why not play devil's advocate? Obviously it's never going to happen, but we've tried both keeping the same underperforming players one year and then bringing in half a new squad the next but why not? All that has happened in response to my original post is people being negative. I'd like a constructive reason as to why, given that all else has failed, this isn't an idea which should at least be open to debate. EDIT: And if you're telling me that £15k/week benchwarmer Bruno N'Gotty isn't getting paid much you're having a laugh
danny. Posted 23 February 2008 Posted 23 February 2008 I'm sorry but if I'm not allowed to express a radical viewpoint what is the point in having a forum at all?It's not kneejerk, I've been putting up with rubbish for years, it's something I've said many times in the past. Why not play devil's advocate? Obviously it's never going to happen, but we've tried both keeping the same underperforming players one year and then bringing in half a new squad the next but why not? All that has happened in response to my original post is people being negative. I'd like a constructive reason as to why, given that all else has failed, this isn't an idea which should at least be open to debate. if we had won today you wouldn't have posted this, so yes - along with all the 'ollie out', 'fryatt should have played', 'hume sucks' threads we have every time e lose - this is a kneejerk thread
Guest ttfn Posted 23 February 2008 Posted 23 February 2008 It's not kneejerk, now is an appropriate time to post. If someone said 'Hume's a good player' after a good game, would that be kneejerk? No because he is often good. We have been rotten for a while and we need to sort it out. I reiterate, why should I be derided for leaving such a comment open to discussion on a forum which is open to debate? Anybody can shout someone else down, it's not big or clever, what is big and clever is reason. My post is in the large part unreasonable but it's there to get people thinking.
danny. Posted 23 February 2008 Posted 23 February 2008 We have this after every loss. don't worry, we might win next week, then we can have 73 "playoffs!!!!!!!!!!11111!!" threads
Daggers Posted 23 February 2008 Posted 23 February 2008 It's not kneejerk Let's settle on just plain old 'jerk' then
CaptainClemence Posted 23 February 2008 Posted 23 February 2008 We have already 'started again' quite a few times this season. I like that picture daggers.
filbertway Posted 23 February 2008 Posted 23 February 2008 This football club is now rotten to its core. NOW? After that result it suddenly became rotten to the core?
STUHILL Posted 23 February 2008 Posted 23 February 2008 I'm sorry but if I'm not allowed to express a radical viewpoint what is the point in having a forum at all?It's not kneejerk, I've been putting up with rubbish for years, it's something I've said many times in the past. Why not play devil's advocate? Obviously it's never going to happen, but we've tried both keeping the same underperforming players one year and then bringing in half a new squad the next but why not? All that has happened in response to my original post is people being negative. I'd like a constructive reason as to why, given that all else has failed, this isn't an idea which should at least be open to debate. EDIT: And if you're telling me that £15k/week benchwarmer Bruno N'Gotty isn't getting paid much you're having a laugh That is why I said what a crap. pointless post!! There is my justification.
Guest ttfn Posted 23 February 2008 Posted 23 February 2008 That is why I said what a crap. pointless post!! There is my justification. So I'm not allowed to stimulate debate? People start 'Rivaldo to Leicester' posts and they don't get derided in such a way. It is not going to happen, true. Why not throw out the idea of 'start again'? I am yet to hear a convincing reason as to why this shouldn't be discussed - all the posts on here are 'pointless'. Nobody listens to what we've got to say. We're little people, why can't we debate it? And as for my 'now' comment, I appreciate that it was a poor choice of word. 'Currently' would have been better. This club has been rotten since the middle of last season. The only time I believed the club had any soul was in the three games of Birmingham at home and Preston and Barnsley away last season.
Simi Posted 23 February 2008 Posted 23 February 2008 What the hell has Fryatt done this season to justify any sort of role in the first team?
Suffolk_fox Posted 23 February 2008 Posted 23 February 2008 I'm sorry but if I'm not allowed to express a radical viewpoint what is the point in having a forum at all? Hardly fooking radical mate - there are lots of idiots on this board spouting the same shite. Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. Cock.
Mark Posted 24 February 2008 Posted 24 February 2008 We have this after every loss. We have this because we've had 4 years of rubbish and nothing ever gets better despite a sign that it will every 9/10 games.
Monk Posted 24 February 2008 Posted 24 February 2008 I can understand your frustration but I don't agree with you. We've started from scratch on enough occasions in the past 4 years, we don't need another one. I've said it many a time but what we need is stability. We're evidently capable of winning games. I say stick with Ollie and build, although I do agree that brings a risk of relegation, I dont think that changing manager AGAIN could possibly bring any benefits.
DanTheFoxBhoy Posted 24 February 2008 Posted 24 February 2008 This football club is now rotten to its core. The players don't want to play with any heart, the chairman's in it to make a fast buck (fine, as long as it works out for everyone) and fans who have turned the Walkers into an intimidating place not for opponents, but for Leicester. Ok, we've had little positive to shout about so it's not the fans' fault but the negativity helps nobody.So start again. Get rid of ALL the first team squad except young Mattock, who hopefully is yet to be corrupted by the cynicism. For me, I'd be sad to see Kisnorbo and Fryatt leave. In the right circumstances they'd be quality players for the club (in a way, Kisnorbo has been regardless of the chaos). I literally could not care less about the rest of them. Start again by buying up a load of players who actually want to play for this football club. At least when we had no money it meant that players were coming here because they wanted to play for Leicester City and not because they wanted more money. It may seem like a very radical solution but its the only way to cure this club of its negativity. All the players are infected by it. I'd rather have Gradel and Beswick playing for this team than a load of mercenaries who are at Leicester for one last pay day. Poor Ian Holloway's going to lose his job at this rate because his players are motivated more by money than the badge. Stoke and Bristol City have shown what can be achieved through pride in the shirt, and Leicester have shown what a reckless disregard for the time and money spent by their supporters can do to a club.
leicesterseddon Posted 24 February 2008 Posted 24 February 2008 i would like to get rid of the chairman, the manager, the whole squad, the youth academy, the ticket ladies, the stewards, the women's team, the board, the rezzies, the stadium and move to bogner
MikeyT Posted 24 February 2008 Posted 24 February 2008 This football club is now rotten to its core. The players don't want to play with any heart, the chairman's in it to make a fast buck (fine, as long as it works out for everyone) and fans who have turned the Walkers into an intimidating place not for opponents, but for Leicester. Ok, we've had little positive to shout about so it's not the fans' fault but the negativity helps nobody.So start again. Get rid of ALL the first team squad except young Mattock, who hopefully is yet to be corrupted by the cynicism. For me, I'd be sad to see Kisnorbo and Fryatt leave. In the right circumstances they'd be quality players for the club (in a way, Kisnorbo has been regardless of the chaos). I literally could not care less about the rest of them. Start again by buying up a load of players who actually want to play for this football club. At least when we had no money it meant that players were coming here because they wanted to play for Leicester City and not because they wanted more money. It may seem like a very radical solution but its the only way to cure this club of its negativity. All the players are infected by it. I'd rather have Gradel and Beswick playing for this team than a load of mercenaries who are at Leicester for one last pay day. Poor Ian Holloway's going to lose his job at this rate because his players are motivated more by money than the badge. Stoke and Bristol City have shown what can be achieved through pride in the shirt, and Leicester have shown what a reckless disregard for the time and money spent by their supporters can do to a club. One word....BOLLOCKS!!!!!!
Fat Ron Posted 25 February 2008 Posted 25 February 2008 To "start Again" would leave the club in a serious state of "what the **** do we do now??" Ollie IS attempting to start again and change the things that are wrong about the club. If anyone believed that it was going to happen over night and that we would be in the play offs or any where near, they need help! We are playing crap at the moment, unfortunatly the Transfer window is closed so there is nothing we can do about it. If we sacked Ollie now we would only be able to bring someone in to work with the current squad anyway so whats the point? If we are relegated then its becasue we have not been good enough in 46 games, not just since Ollie has been here. Whatever happens one thing is for certain, too many changes have already happened this season and that has led to deflated confidence and confused/bewildered players. By changing the Manager again this season it would effectivly end the campaign and leave relegation as a certainty. Nobody is knocking you for having an opinion but to publicly air it with a thread title "Start Again" is only going to get backs up, we all want the best for Leicester City and that means having patience and letting the people at the Club do thier jobs. EDIT : How you can say that Milan is only after making a quick buck is beyond me.. the guy has spent a fortune on us??
hackneyfox Posted 25 February 2008 Posted 25 February 2008 'if we had won today you wouldn't have posted this' But the point is that we didn't win, we didn't even look like winning, and as we had won last week we weren't likely to, and once we went 1-0 down we were NEVER going to win. I don't know what the answer is, the problem is that Holloway doesn't appear to know either and gobbing off about the ref is poor, it was a penalty. Goalie was poor Now you see why Chambers isn't played regularly. Kisnorbo was wank. Neither centre-half can pass Midfield was poor Hume was fooking awful (considering that according to many he is our best player) DJ, well he was woeful
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