lou Posted 15 April 2009 Posted 15 April 2009 Did the guy doing the memorial just say that the South Yorks Chief Constable has admitted full responsibility??? I thought thats what hed said but wasnt sure?
Fox in a Box Posted 15 April 2009 Posted 15 April 2009 Did the guy doing the memorial just say that the South Yorks Chief Constable has admitted full responsibility??? I thought thats what hed said but wasnt sure? I hope so.
Daggers Posted 15 April 2009 Posted 15 April 2009 So I'm not really sure what justice a new inquiry can bring, or what it will tell us that we don't already know. It's about bringing justice to those who died, who's relations have shouldered the partial blame attributed to their deaths - from police and newspaper lies. It's about being fair not uncovering the truth.
Sparky Posted 15 April 2009 Posted 15 April 2009 Did the guy doing the memorial just say that the South Yorks Chief Constable has admitted full responsibility??? I thought thats what hed said but wasnt sure? Yeh thats true
Aleksz Posted 15 April 2009 Posted 15 April 2009 its nice to see some everton scarves there. it just shows that football can be put a side for a day R.I.P to the 96.
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 15 April 2009 Posted 15 April 2009 That rendition of You'll Never Walk Alone just made me shiver.
breadandcheese Posted 15 April 2009 Posted 15 April 2009 It's about bringing justice to those who died, who's relations have shouldered the partial blame attributed to their deaths - from police and newspaper lies.It's about being fair not uncovering the truth. That's not really answered my question though. The calls for an inquiry seem to want to pin blame and possibly prosecutions onto somebody. The fact is that it could have been any football stadium in the country, so effectively, we're blaming the whole of football in the 1980s from the football authorities, to the footballng culture, to 1980s policing in general. I'm not going to criticise those relatives who are calling for the inquiry as it strikes me more to do with the grieving process than anything else and I would probably be reacting in the same way. As I say, in my eyes, justice has been served in that a tragedy like Hillsborough will thankfully never be seen in the UK again. I think we have to remember it as a tragic accident rather than look at it as an issue of inquiry and criminal investigation. The only area we should attach guilt is, if anything, to our modern day football authorities for not pressing FIFA to ensure the lessons are applied globally, rather than seeing similar tragedies in the Ivory Coast. RIP to the 96.
Simi Posted 15 April 2009 Posted 15 April 2009 No such thing as safe standing and people must sit down in seated stadia .This is a memorial service for the 96 , not a platform to discuss these issues Who bought that up?
Sparky Posted 15 April 2009 Posted 15 April 2009 Who bought that up? Chairman for Hillsboro families i belive Trevor Hicks , Regardless of his views i just thought it would have been best left out . It was pretty much having a pop at the kop for persistant standing and also saying there is no such thing as safe standing . For such a moving memorial i thought it would have been best left out
Daggers Posted 15 April 2009 Posted 15 April 2009 Who bought that up? Trevor Hicks. Overstepping the mark I felt. He stated that the OHFS's position is oppose all standing in stadia* and he knocked the German model as well as standing in seated areas. It played no part in what was meant to be a service for the 96. He went on to say that people said seating was not popular, "can you get a ticket for a game these days? No, exactly - seating is not unpopular" he added in possibly one of the stupidest defences of all-seater stadia I've ever heard. *there is no mention of this on their website
Simi Posted 15 April 2009 Posted 15 April 2009 Chairman for Hillsboro families i belive Trevor Hicks , Regardless of his views i just thought it would have been best left out . It was pretty much having a pop at the kop for persistant standing and also saying there is no such thing as safe standing .For such a moving memorial i thought it would have been best left out I agree, I'm not going to comment further on it though, it's not the right time.
Matt Posted 15 April 2009 Posted 15 April 2009 That rendition of You'll Never Walk Alone just made me shiver. Love it. Emotional that was, puts football into perspective.
Milky Posted 15 April 2009 Posted 15 April 2009 Hicks lost two daughters on that day, so i won't slate him for his views, though i don't agree with them.
Mickey O'Neil Posted 15 April 2009 Posted 15 April 2009 Can't believe it's that long ago. I couldn't get a ticket for the Chelsea game so I went to the Scarborough vs Scunnthorpe game instead. We saw loads of Liverpool fans in Sheffield but didn't know what had happened I remember walking down Uppingham Road past a 2nd hand shop and seeing the Bradford fire as well.
C-man Posted 15 April 2009 Posted 15 April 2009 Chairman for Hillsboro families i belive Trevor Hicks , Regardless of his views i just thought it would have been best left out . It was pretty much having a pop at the kop for persistant standing and also saying there is no such thing as safe standing .For such a moving memorial i thought it would have been best left out Yeah he told everyone to stay seated towards the end because 'safety was paramount'. I didn't think he was right to air those views today of all days, but who am I to question a man who lost two daughters (partly) because of standing?
Daggers Posted 15 April 2009 Posted 15 April 2009 BBC24 just carried interviews with ex-players, Phil Thompson was passionate about getting an inquiry to put the matter to bed...and Grobbelaar brought a massive lump to my throat.
Sparky Posted 15 April 2009 Posted 15 April 2009 Yeah he told everyone to stay seated towards the end because 'safety was paramount'. I didn't think he was right to air those views today of all days, but who am I to question a man who lost two daughters (partly) because of standing? Yeh i agree ,i didnt know that he lost 2 daughters . This convo best for another day RIP The 96
Master Fox Posted 15 April 2009 Posted 15 April 2009 I remember this happening as a kid and being absolutely horrified. I think it was the way people died that was so awful. Tragic. And this image is truly shocking of what it was like.
purpleronnie Posted 15 April 2009 Posted 15 April 2009 Oh my thats a truely shocking picture, especially considering some pictured there wouldnt make it home. So terribly sad.
BlueSi13 Posted 15 April 2009 Posted 15 April 2009 I remember this happening as a kid and being absolutely horrified. I think it was the way people died that was so awful. Tragic.And this image is truly shocking of what it was like. That picture is simply heartbreaking, i've never seen it before, truly heart stopping, rest in peace 96
C-man Posted 15 April 2009 Posted 15 April 2009 Oh my lord that picture is sickening. Who's to say some of those people weren't already dead?
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