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Matty Fryatt will score 20+ this season!

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Listening to the Moan In and reading through posts on here, a lot of people seems to be on his balls for this, that and the other. The lad has 7 goals so far and we're not in October yet.

Everybody unanimously agreed that he was an utter failure last season and the one before. But this a new beginning, a clean slate for everybody.

He's a poor mans Adebayor - needs a lot of chances to score, but I will put my neck on the line and bet that he'll score 20 or more this season. If he fail to dos so, the beers are on me at the FT game in May/June.

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Listening to the Moan In and reading through posts on here, a lot of people seems to be on his balls for this, that and the other. The lad has 7 goals so far and we're not in October yet.

Everybody unanimously agreed that he was an utter failure last season and the one before. But this a new beginning, a clean slate for everybody.

He's a poor mans Adebayor - needs a lot of chances to score, but I will put my neck on the line and bet that he'll score 20 or more this season. If he fail to dos so, the beers are on me at the FT game in May/June.

I don't remember everyone agreeing he was an utter failure. Fryatt had his fans all along - whatever he did.

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I don't remember evryone agreeing he was an utter failure. Fryatt had his fans all along - whatever he did.

Even the most biased Fryatt fan boys will admit he was disaster.

I've never warmed to Fryatt. Always believed he had some talent, but was never his biggest fan. Iain Hume is twice the player Fryatt is, but he never had this many fan boys.

I was a massive critic of him in previous seasons, but I've no problems with him now. By some people's comments, you would think the lad was a liability rather than an asset. He has seven goals so far; who are we to argue?

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Even the most biased Fryatt fan boys will admit he was disaster.

I've never warmed to Fryatt. Always believed he had some talent, but was never his biggest fan. Iain Hume is twice the player Fryatt is, but he never had this many fan boys.

I was a massive critic of him in previous seasons, but I've no problems with him now. By some people's comments, you would think the lad was a liability rather than an asset. He has seven goals so far; who are we to argue?

to be honest i've not heard anyone knocking him this season, I'm surprised there'e so much debate on the lad. He's a league 1 striker. We're in league 1. simple.

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I was a big Fryatt advocate in his early Leicester days but was well and truelly put in my place over the next few seasons. This year however, I think he's re-discovering his ability and it's food and drink for him at this level.

He's far from the finished article and it is infuriating when you see him miss easy chances and not pass to others when in the box, but that's what strikers do. If a player averages nearly a goal every league game, then does it really matter how many chances they miss? I certainly don't think so.

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I was a big Fryatt advocate in his early Leicester days but was well and truelly put in my place over the next few seasons. This year however, I think he's re-discovering his ability and it's food and drink for him at this level.

He's far from the finished article and it is infuriating when you see him miss easy chances and not pass to others when in the box, but that's what strikers do. If a player averages nearly a goal every league game, then does it really matter how many chances they miss? I certainly don't think so.

I don't think it would matter if we were firing in loads of goals but the fact is we're not scoring enough and Fryatt, in spite of his personal tally is seen as part of the problem because he's not passing to other potential scorers.

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I don't think it would matter if we were firing in loads of goals but the fact is we're not scoring enough and Fryatt, in spite of his personal tally is seen as part of the problem because he's not passing to other potential scorers.

13 goals in 7 league games hardly suggests we are struggling for goals. Over the course of the season that is nearly 90 league goals.

I do share the concern that we might struggle for goals if things don't go our own way as we seem to lack ideas when teams sit back.

Strikers miss chances, as Kareem says, Adebayor misses a shit load of chances but you play him because he still scores at a good rate. Fryatt is doing the same right now and although it's never nice to see your team miss lots of chances, if Fryatt is taken out of the equation I honestly don't think we'd have 13 goals from our 7 league games so far.

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13 goals in 7 league games hardly suggests we are struggling for goals. Over the course of the season that is nearly 90 league goals.

I do share the concern that we might struggle for goals if things don't go our own way as we seem to lack ideas when teams sit back.

Strikers miss chances, as Kareem says, Adebayor misses a shit load of chances but you play him because he still scores at a good rate. Fryatt is doing the same right now and although it's never nice to see your team miss lots of chances, if Fryatt is taken out of the equation I honestly don't think we'd have 13 goals from our 7 league games so far.

No it's not bad, specially not with our recent history but it's the consistency and conversion ratio that sticks in peoples' minds with the Hartlepool game being a good example.

I think people are also concerned that we've been sussed out and that we need greater variety in order to maintain the current level.

It'll be interesting to see if Fryatt can maintain his scoring rate or whether the opposition have worked out that if you smother him and steer him away from the goal you'll be relatively safe knowing he rarely passes. If it does drop significantly then we could be in real trouble.

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Listening to the Moan In and reading through posts on here, a lot of people seems to be on his balls for this, that and the other. The lad has 7 goals so far and we're not in October yet.

Everybody unanimously agreed that he was an utter failure last season and the one before. But this a new beginning, a clean slate for everybody.

He's a poor mans Adebayor - needs a lot of chances to score, but I will put my neck on the line and bet that he'll score 20 or more this season. If he fail to dos so, the beers are on me at the FT game in May/June.

That could cost you if he breaks his leg in the next match. I can only see him not scoring 20+ if he has a long injury layoff

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I don't think we'll lack goals this year. Fryatt doesn't score for a game and there's a panic. Last game I was at (Leyton Orient) he scored once and hit the bar twice. He will score goals this season. Same with Howard. How many goals has he had disallowed this season (one against Hartlepool I couldn't understand from watching the highlights). They are playing well together and I like how Howard is looking better this season and is playing some intelligent through balls (particularly to Dyer). If we can get some confidence into DJ and get Dickov banging in a couple of the bench, we'll have no problems scoring this season. We just need to dominate the midfield battles to create the chances and the goals will flow. 4-0 away, 3-1 away, 3-1 at home... problem scoring???

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Listening to the Moan In and reading through posts on here, a lot of people seems to be on his balls for this, that and the other. The lad has 7 goals so far and we're not in October yet.

Everybody unanimously agreed that he was an utter failure last season and the one before. But this a new beginning, a clean slate for everybody.

He's a poor mans Adebayor - needs a lot of chances to score, but I will put my neck on the line and bet that he'll score 20 or more this season. If he fail to dos so, the beers are on me at the FT game in May/June.

I don't think Fryatt has hit 20+ league goals in his career to date, has he? I may well be wrong, not sure.. Though if he doesn't do it this season based on his start to the campaign, then something is seriously wrong.

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No it's not bad, specially not with our recent history but it's the consistency and conversion ratio that sticks in peoples' minds with the Hartlepool game being a good example.

I think people are also concerned that we've been sussed out and that we need greater variety in order to maintain the current level.

It'll be interesting to see if Fryatt can maintain his scoring rate or whether the opposition have worked out that if you smother him and steer him away from the goal you'll be relatively safe knowing he rarely passes. If it does drop significantly then we could be in real trouble.

Some very valid points there, some that I most certainly share. Let's hope these concerns are unfounded over the season, as it stands, Fryatt's scoring record this season is impressive and if he converted the majority of the chances he has, he'd be scoring at a rate of 2/3 goals a game, which is unheard of in professional football.

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I don't think Fryatt has hit 20+ league goals in his career to date, has he? I may well be wrong, not sure.. Though if he doesn't do it this season based on his start to the campaign, then something is seriously wrong.

The season we signed him, he had 14 goals for Walsall and then went on to score 6 for us, totalling 20 goals. Whether all of those 14 were in the league for Walsall i'm not sure, but the 6 for us definitely were.

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Some very valid points there, some that I most certainly share. Let's hope these concerns are unfounded over the season, as it stands, Fryatt's scoring record this season is impressive and if he converted the majority of the chances he has, he'd be scoring at a rate of 2/3 goals a game, which is unheard of in professional football.

At the present time I have no serious problems with him and I'm confident that Pearson will take appropriate action if standards fall, judging from his and Mandaric's comments pre-season I'm sure he still has options in terms of 'emergency' type loans if there are problems with the current strikers.

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I don't think we'll lack goals this year. Fryatt doesn't score for a game and there's a panic. Last game I was at (Leyton Orient) he scored once and hit the bar twice. He will score goals this season. Same with Howard. How many goals has he had disallowed this season (one against Hartlepool I couldn't understand from watching the highlights). They are playing well together and I like how Howard is looking better this season and is playing some intelligent through balls (particularly to Dyer). If we can get some confidence into DJ and get Dickov banging in a couple of the bench, we'll have no problems scoring this season. We just need to dominate the midfield battles to create the chances and the goals will flow. 4-0 away, 3-1 away, 3-1 at home... problem scoring???

Win the midfield battles? Nothing's perfect but we're creating stacks of chances and you youself have mentiond near misses and the goals that have been disallowed.

We scored three and hit the woodwork twice playing spasmodically at Orient and on Saturday the ball was constantly being played into the Hartlepool box. At Stockport away we pounded them second half without a morsel of luck.

Yes, we might have had more support into the area Saturday but I don't think it was the central midfielders who were primarily to blame for us not scoring more. I've long thought that Howard, while he's been okay, needs to do more of his work in the box instead of on the fringes.

As far as midfield generally is concerned people might remember that some teams pack midfield to try and stiffle our attacks and we have two wingers who are genuinely attacking and just help out as defenders rather than being essentially operated as defensive extras as so often with previous managers - remember Mattock, Newton, Sheehan, Maybury and Hughes on the wing in recent times?

Being fair Gradel and Dyer have surprised me with their defensive contribution but the number of times our wingers break into the box means our two central midfielders can have quite a lot to deal with immediately after the ball is lost and Pearson clearly likes them to pay regard to that, especially when the game is tight.

Considering all that and the fact I'd much sooner have those attacking wingers than defensive alternatives, I don't see any serious problems with chance creation especially considering the resilience of our defence so far.

The more this City team plays together the better it should perform.

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You all know my opinion of crappy Fryatt.

I refuse to rise to the bait. :innocent:

Mine's a pint of real ale please. :beer:

Hhhmmm.....s'pose your another one who's in love with goal machine Stevie Howard!!! <_<

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The season we signed him, he had 14 goals for Walsall and then went on to score 6 for us, totalling 20 goals. Whether all of those 14 were in the league for Walsall i'm not sure, but the 6 for us definitely were.

Just had a brief look, apparently 2 were scored in the FA Cup and 1 in the Football League Trophy. Still, that'd have been 17 league goals, though I suppose if he'd have played the entire season at League One level he could well have surpassed 20 league goals that season. Hopefully he's in that mindset and in that form and it'll show this season.

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They always used to say about Andy Cole that he missed loads of chances before scoring - didn't stop him banging in more than most, though, did it?

Personally, I think it's good we have a striker taking on responsibility to shoot. They are in the team to get goals and that means being a bit "greedy" at times. As long as Fryatt's got faith in his own ability to score, I have no problem with him having a pop when he gets half a chance.

As said above, his goals-to-games ratio is good so far this season. If he has ten shots and puts just one away every game, I don't think you can ask much more of him. I have no doubt he'd be criticised if he wasn't shooting.

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