breadandcheese Posted 13 August 2010 Posted 13 August 2010 i cannot believe some people call them leicester supporters. milan saved leicester from becoming nothing! yes we got relegated but that was the best thing for us... we re-grouped and came back massively stronger! he saved our club.. wether he bought the club for 25 mill or 25p i do not care he saved us thats end of the story . if he had not come along i`d hate to think were we would be right now. i for one will be forever gratefull to him for coming along and saving leicester. . yes he has tried signing davids and pires behind managers backs but if you think buissness minded having players like that here would of bought in more money on shirt sales sponsership I love a bit of hyperbole but how exactly has he saved the club, when it was in no danger of going into administration? We are in exactly the same position we were when he took the club over. The reason we escaped League 1 at the first attempt and made the play-offs last year was down to the manager, not the chairman.
Ric Flair Posted 13 August 2010 Posted 13 August 2010 Sorry nick, must just have that friday feeling! Any news? When's the first Thai player signing?
hackneyfox Posted 13 August 2010 Posted 13 August 2010 i cannot believe some people call them leicester supporters. milan saved leicester from becoming nothing! yes we got relegated but that was the best thing for us... we re-grouped and came back massively stronger! he saved our club.. wether he bought the club for 25 mill or 25p i do not care he saved us thats end of the story . if he had not come along i`d hate to think were we would be right now. i for one will be forever gratefull to him for coming along and saving leicester. . yes he has tried signing davids and pires behind managers backs but if you think buissness minded having players like that here would of bought in more money on shirt sales sponsership So you can only be a Leicester fan if you're easily fooled?
James. Posted 13 August 2010 Posted 13 August 2010 Agree with Bert here. Before Mandaric we had a shit few years as a below average Championship team going absolutely nowhere. Since Mandaric we've had two of the best seasons of recent times (I don't give a sh*t that one of them was in League One, it was still a great season) and within touching distance of a shot at the Premiership. And now we're a top 6 Championship team with secure finances, an up and coming young manager and a seemingly very bright future. Whether you thank Pearson or Mandaric or whoever doesn't really matter, just enjoy the ride.
Alexikokopops Posted 13 August 2010 Posted 13 August 2010 Agree with Bert here. Before Mandaric we had a shit few years as a below average Championship team going absolutely nowhere. Since Mandaric we've had two of the best seasons of recent times (I don't give a sh*t that one of them was in League One, it was still a great season) and within touching distance of a shot at the Premiership. And now we're a top 6 Championship team with secure finances, an up and coming young manager and a seemingly very bright future. Whether you thank Pearson or Mandaric or whoever doesn't really matter, just enjoy the ride. I agree with everything, except the bit about having secure finances. I'd argue that they're in a similar state to when he arrived. Can't argue that it's not been fun on the pitch though.
The People's Hero Posted 13 August 2010 Posted 13 August 2010 I agree with everything, except the bit about having secure finances. I'd argue that they're in a similar state to when he arrived. Can't argue that it's not been fun on the pitch though. I think we're reasonably secure. We've got a bit of an advantage over a lot of clubs now too, since the consortium will cough up a few quid to strengthen the playing side (they have to be seen to be doing so)... and everywhere else, club's are struggling and money is no longer cheap. MM has definitely been a good thing for this club. Hope he sticks with Paolo for a bit though. Any news? When's the first Thai player signing? Thai-rone Mears is on his way.
filbertway Posted 13 August 2010 Posted 13 August 2010 Thai-nee tempah is the new half time entertainment!
Alexikokopops Posted 13 August 2010 Posted 13 August 2010 I think we're reasonably secure. We've got a bit of an advantage over a lot of clubs now too, since the consortium will cough up a few quid to strengthen the playing side (they have to be seen to be doing so)... and everywhere else, club's are struggling and money is no longer cheap. MM has definitely been a good thing for this club. Hope he sticks with Paolo for a bit though. I'd say we're comparatively secure as oppose to reasonably secure. From what I understand we're going to losing money until we pay off the stadium debt or get into the Premiership (when we can afford the repayments a lot more). I'd class us as reasonably secure when our £26 million of debt is steady and manageable without outside investment, rather than increasing. I think I aspire for us to be debt free, or at least not be losing money, more than I aspire for Premiership football. I could be totally wrong mind. I usually am.
Pete_foxes Posted 13 August 2010 Posted 13 August 2010 I love a bit of hyperbole but how exactly has he saved the club, when it was in no danger of going into administration? We are in exactly the same position we were when he took the club over. The reason we escaped League 1 at the first attempt and made the play-offs last year was down to the manager, not the chairman. We were definatly in the shit before Mandaric came in, how much money did we spend on players before Mandaric came in? did we have a million or so to spend on Richie Wellens or a million or so to spend on DJ Campbell? No we didn't we bought McAuley and Paddy McCarthy on frees.The team was in a mess long before Mandaric came to the club. Milan has also pumped alot of cash in to cover our losses for the relegation season to league one.
fleckneymike Posted 13 August 2010 Posted 13 August 2010 We were definatly in the shit before Mandaric came in, how much money did we spend on players before Mandaric came in? did we have a million or so to spend on Richie Wellens or a million or so to spend on DJ Campbell? No we didn't we bought McAuley and Paddy McCarthy on frees.The team was in a mess long before Mandaric came to the club. Milan has also pumped alot of cash in to cover our losses for the relegation season to league one. The relegation to league one he was directly responsible for, I'm very glad we never had 1m+ to spend on DJ Campbell because 1m is a rip off for a mediocre player who has been somehow turned into a superstar following a good loan spell at an over achieving minnow.
STUHILL Posted 13 August 2010 Posted 13 August 2010 People can't complain about MM. He really has transformed us from a team on the slide, to a team on the up and up!! It may have taken relegation to League 1, but looking back now, it was the best thing that could have happened to our club. Pearson also played a big part in getting us where we are today but without a dedicated chairman, it wouldn't have happened. I understand peoples frustrations with MM but one way or another he has got us right back up there fighting for a place in the Prem and I will always be grateful for that. People forget we were a poor championship side, with equally poor players and no money to spend. We now have new investment and a talented young manager playing attractive football. Milan, I for one thank you!!
hackneyfox Posted 13 August 2010 Posted 13 August 2010 The relegation to league one he was directly responsible for, I'm very glad we never had 1m+ to spend on DJ Campbell because 1m is a rip off for a mediocre player who has been somehow turned into a superstar following a good loan spell at an over achieving minnow. What he said
breadandcheese Posted 13 August 2010 Posted 13 August 2010 We were definatly in the shit before Mandaric came in, how much money did we spend on players before Mandaric came in? did we have a million or so to spend on Richie Wellens or a million or so to spend on DJ Campbell? No we didn't we bought McAuley and Paddy McCarthy on frees.The team was in a mess long before Mandaric came to the club. Milan has also pumped alot of cash in to cover our losses for the relegation season to league one. McAuley, Hume, McCarthy and Stearman we sold for a reported combined total £4.5 million. We also got £1.4 million from the sale of Mattock so that's combined sales of £5.9 million. We've spent about the same on our big signings (DJ, Oakley, Howard, Wellens, Gallagher). All I'm saying is that Milan is not the saviour he likes to present himself as. The club was not going into administration when he took over. He chose bad managers, who signed bad players and this led to our relegation. He then got lucky choosing a great manager in Pearson, who reversed the fortunes of the team. He then got rid of Pearson and replaced him with Sousa. The credit for the resurgence of the club has more to do with the new manager at Hull.
Houdini Logic Posted 13 August 2010 Posted 13 August 2010 Don't care how much that troll nose crook has made or lost as long as we're not going into administration and we can compete with transfers/purchases
Bert Posted 13 August 2010 Posted 13 August 2010 Milan may not have been totally honest in what he's been saying all the time, but I can guarantee everyone now he saved the club from being more in the shit than the first time we were in admin. For all we know we could be where luton are now, who were beating us five years ago. Just be thankful that we've still got a club and it's getting back on the right track, i'm sure you'd all be much more annoyed if we'd not be where are now, and where we could be possibly going.
Babylon Posted 13 August 2010 Posted 13 August 2010 Stringer said something yesterday about Milan buying the training ground outright... since when did we not own the training ground?!?! Wouldn't be surprised is he now owns the training ground in return for one of the loans he gave the club. He will probably rent it back to the club at some stupid rate or sell it off for housing and take the £££'s. That's presuming it's his now and not the clubs of course... some digging would be needed, wouldn't expect our local rag or radio station to bother though.
STUHILL Posted 13 August 2010 Posted 13 August 2010 To me it's simple. Are we in a better position now, than we were before he took over? I think yes. End of for me.
clare Posted 13 August 2010 Posted 13 August 2010 I agree wholeheartedly with Bert's statements. Given where the club was a few seasons ago, we can now look to the future positively and aim for the Premier League. Obviously credit must go to Nigel Pearson, but Milan Mandaric backed Pearson all the way as manager during his tenure. So without either of them, the club could have been in a much worse position. And for that MM, I thank you! Here's to an exciting future
hackneyfox Posted 13 August 2010 Posted 13 August 2010 Milan may not have been totally honest in what he's been saying all the time, but I can guarantee everyone now he saved the club from being more in the shit than the first time we were in admin. For all we know we could be where luton are now, who were beating us five years ago. Just be thankful that we've still got a club and it's getting back on the right track, i'm sure you'd all be much more annoyed if we'd not be where are now, and where we could be possibly going. I can guarantee everyone now that he didn't save the club from administration.
accessory Posted 13 August 2010 Posted 13 August 2010 I agree wholeheartedly with Bert's statements. Given where the club was a few seasons ago, we can now look to the future positively and aim for the Premier League. Obviously credit must go to Nigel Pearson, but Milan Mandaric backed Pearson all the way as manager during his tenure. So without either of them, the club could have been in a much worse position. And for that MM, I thank you! Here's to an exciting future Erm, so why did Milan promise Pearson money to spend in the transfer market in January, and then not give it him? And why did Pearson feel that Hull, a team playing in the fourth division less than ten years ago, offer better prospects than we do?
Pete_foxes Posted 13 August 2010 Posted 13 August 2010 McAuley, Hume, McCarthy and Stearman we sold for a reported combined total £4.5 million. We also got £1.4 million from the sale of Mattock so that's combined sales of £5.9 million. We've spent about the same on our big signings (DJ, Oakley, Howard, Wellens, Gallagher). All I'm saying is that Milan is not the saviour he likes to present himself as. The club was not going into administration when he took over. He chose bad managers, who signed bad players and this led to our relegation. He then got lucky choosing a great manager in Pearson, who reversed the fortunes of the team. He then got rid of Pearson and replaced him with Sousa. The credit for the resurgence of the club has more to do with the new manager at Hull. True the values of DJ, Oakley, Howard, Wellens and Gallagher are similar to those sold that you mentioned I'll give you that but club finances are not just based on the sale and purchase of players. Milan is putting money into the club. I don't know how you can be sure we would not of gone into adminstration had Milan not come on board. In 2009 we reported losses of 6 Million and the previous year was 14million for which he has covered personally. Yes, his time here has been filled with turmoil and controversy but without him we'd be alot worse of.
Ashley Posted 13 August 2010 Posted 13 August 2010 I can guarantee everyone now that he didn't save the club from administration. I can guarantee everyone Bert knows a lot more of the on goings of Leicester City than you do.
accessory Posted 13 August 2010 Posted 13 August 2010 But there are folk around that know more about the state of the club than Bert (unless he's MM himself, which I doubt). Before MM took over, the club was not in a good way, but administration was never a possibility, partly because the club was still under the constraints of the rescue deal from 2003.
artursteppe Posted 13 August 2010 Posted 13 August 2010 Erm, so why did Milan promise Pearson money to spend in the transfer market in January, and then not give it him? And why did Pearson feel that Hull, a team playing in the fourth division less than ten years ago, offer better prospects than we do? What are you no? Pearson didn't choose Hull because they were a better option, for one thing cos they ain't! When Pearson saw Paulo Sousa at the home semi-final against Cardiff the message to Pearson was 'WE DON'T WANT YOU ANY MORE, WE WANT THIS BLOKE!' Also the reason Gerry Taggart was sacked was because Paulo didn't want him. Pearson took these and no doubt other hints ( including no money in January ), that his job was finishing and found another job. It happens in all walks of life. Simple!
Houdini Logic Posted 13 August 2010 Posted 13 August 2010 What are you no? Pearson didn't choose Hull because they were a better option, for one thing cos they ain't! When Pearson saw Paulo Sousa at the home semi-final against Cardiff the message to Pearson was 'WE DON'T WANT YOU ANY MORE, WE WANT THIS BLOKE!' Also the reason Gerry Taggart was sacked was because Paulo didn't want him. Pearson took these and no doubt other hints ( including no money in January ), that his job was finishing and found another job. It happens in all walks of life. Simple! Taggart made the smart move to step up to assistant manager - don't think there was any pushing there...
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