Edmund Posted 20 August 2010 Posted 20 August 2010 I don't see Morerno being as good as Heskey as a centre-back Quote of the year.
davieG Posted 20 August 2010 Posted 20 August 2010 Quote of the year. It was only one game but purely from a CB perspective I thought Moreno was quite poor. That's not to say he didn't have certain skills but the key CB skill of heading was blatantly missing I really don't see him in that position at all.
Tommeh Posted 20 August 2010 Posted 20 August 2010 Centre half Let's not forget Big Steve, the guy's currently as good as he ever has been in a City shirt. My head even say's we don't need Emile, BUT it is Emile and my heart takes over....I'd love it if he returned.
Edmund Posted 20 August 2010 Posted 20 August 2010 It was only one game but purely from a CB perspective I thought Moreno was quite poor. That's not to say he didn't have certain skills but the key CB skill of heading was blatantly missing I really don't see him in that position at all. Maybe so but I refuse to even enter debate about wether Heskey would do the job at CB Why don't we try and sign Peter Crouch as a goalkeeper? He's tall enough.
MPH Posted 20 August 2010 Posted 20 August 2010 I'm not yet convinced that Tunchev will ever re-establish himself in the City team and have yet to see Vitor play either cos he's forever injured. Of the other three I don't see Morerno being as good as Heskey as a centre-back depite his fairly cultured control and, despite Hobbs's excellence against Middlesbrough I see both him and Morrison as slow-turning and ulnerable, particularly on the floor and against pace. It is, of course, easy for dissenters to enjoy their name-calling given that Heskey is not here to prove whether he can play centre-back or not. But he's never been what I'd call a natural centre-forward and at 32 I cannot see that changing despite all and sundry presumably believing that he's suddenly going to change. So he has played as a striker/forward all his career, yet at the age of 32 he can not change at be anatural forward. Hmm.. Yet you think at 32 he can learn to play a completly new position? You really do make yourself look silly sometimes.
StanSP Posted 20 August 2010 Posted 20 August 2010 Keep him a legend at the club by keeping him away from the club.
davieG Posted 20 August 2010 Posted 20 August 2010 I don't personally advocate it but he wouldn't be the first to do a swap Dublin did it for start and there have been others. The idea is not outrageous even if you think Heskey doing it is
Hitesh Posted 20 August 2010 Posted 20 August 2010 I can't see this happening and if Heskey has any sense he will make sure it doesnt! Can't see this being successful at all if it does come through and it could tarnish a good name he has here at City!
haraven Posted 20 August 2010 Posted 20 August 2010 What is this Heskey comparison with Dublin? Yes they are both from Leicester. Dion Dublin never played for Leicester untill his last year or so, and I seem to remember people saying he had never really been a fan of Leicester - even though he grew up here. Emile Heskey was our very first "wonderkid" in many decades, one of whom other fans spoke of in awe. He played a good number of matches for us before he was sold for what must be the record high in this club (10 or 11 mill £ if my memory serves me correct). He was later on several occasions spotted as still a Leicester City fan, which he really showed when paying 100 000 £ to the Lineker consortium. An act of showing responsibility for your boyhood club. I am pretty sure he would love to come back in give it one long-lasting dance for _his_ club - and trust me, he would ravish this division. 2 months ago he played in the World Cup. We don't live on past glory - we live on getting promoted, and one man who can help us to that with his heart thundering under the LCFC badge is Emil Heskey. Even if he came here, and it turned out to be a mistake (it won't), he would not tarnish his reputation among the fans of Leicester City. And as a real fan, I really doubt he would care one bit - he would probably relish the chance to play for us again. I am apalled at how some fans on here don't want him back for various muppetish reasons.
Joe. Posted 20 August 2010 Posted 20 August 2010 Jesus christ, people bringing up his goal-scoring record again. He's never scored goals consistently anywhere, so why use that as an argument against him now? It's never been his predominant role in a team, yet it's always used against him. He's been first team material at every single Premier League club he's been at so far, until now at the age of 32 - it's never been a problem for them. I'd absolutely love seeing him back here, I just find it unbelievable that some wouldn't.
Leicester_Loyal Posted 20 August 2010 Posted 20 August 2010 If you think failing to score 20 goals in three seasons at a top 4 team is acceptable for a striker clearly you and I have very different opinions on football. To make it a bit easier for you to understand I mean the three seasons combined. I.e less than 7 goals a season on average. Oh right mate, thought you meant 40+ goals a season, i.e double 20.
DeclanMC Posted 20 August 2010 Posted 20 August 2010 Steve Howard, who some people seem to think is the team's main playmaker is 34. Heskey is 32. 3 year contract for heskey, why not?
fleckneymike Posted 20 August 2010 Posted 20 August 2010 I don't personally advocate it but he wouldn't be the first to do a swap Dublin did it for start and there have been others. The idea is not outrageous even if you think Heskey doing it is There have been an infinitesimal number of players convert from centre forward to centre back. Dion Dublin is NOT one of them. Dion began as a centre back and was converted to a centre forward, not the other way round. To claim a player can switch positions so dramatically is outrageous, to suggest Heskey do so is either stupid or an attempt to seem knowledgeable about football safe in the knowledge that probability means that you can never be disproved. To claim that he'd make a better centre back than Moreno does more to dispel the theory than support it seeing as Moreno is a defensive midfielder by trade. Being able to head a ball doesn't qualify you to be a centre back, without positional sense any ability to head is wasted as you'll never be anywhere near the ball.
skegness fox Posted 20 August 2010 Posted 20 August 2010 legend, i would have him back in a shot. He would piss the championship, get a statue up now!
Aumski Posted 20 August 2010 Posted 20 August 2010 i love leicester fans, no i love england fans. we(england) would have lost if it wasn't for Heskey; against the USA. Also why do people talk about USA like there shite? jay demerit is one person 01 Howard 03 Bocanegra Captain 05 Onyewu 06 Cherundolo 15 DeMerit 04 Bradley 08 Dempsey 13 Clark 10 Donovan 17 Altidore 20 Findley he also played against Donovan, Dempsey, Howard, 3 of the top players in the world. Demps seems to score crucial goals for fulham, Donovan; i'm suprised he's not playing for chelsea, and howard is one of the most solid keepers in the prem, he (Heskey) recived a higher match rating then any of these 3 players. and when some1 calls him shit, rooney hasnt scored for 8 england games or something, gerrard saved england agianst Hungury. and the rest of the team did didly jack in the world cup! Heskey was a solid player, and Capello is a world class manager, he's won things you can't dream to even go watch live. so heskey 2-4m 20k-30k wages. i dont care yes please. (dj is on around 20k! even though i do like him ) BRING THE BOY HOME... so i can go have a pint with him in the holiday inn ;D
fleckneymike Posted 20 August 2010 Posted 20 August 2010 Consistant form, he went on to play another 3 seasons and failed to double that figure. He hasn't shown really good form for nearly 10 years. He'll do a job in this league and our other strikers will cerainly benefit from him being here but take the piss and score a hat full of goals I can't see There's a very nice breakdown of his performances on the AVFC site AVFC
Spiritwalker Posted 20 August 2010 Posted 20 August 2010 What is this Heskey comparison with Dublin? Yes they are both from Leicester. Dion Dublin never played for Leicester untill his last year or so, and I seem to remember people saying he had never really been a fan of Leicester - even though he grew up here. Emile Heskey was our very first "wonderkid" in many decades, one of whom other fans spoke of in awe. He played a good number of matches for us before he was sold for what must be the record high in this club (10 or 11 mill £ if my memory serves me correct). He was later on several occasions spotted as still a Leicester City fan, which he really showed when paying 100 000 £ to the Lineker consortium. An act of showing responsibility for your boyhood club. I am pretty sure he would love to come back in give it one long-lasting dance for _his_ club - and trust me, he would ravish this division. 2 months ago he played in the World Cup. We don't live on past glory - we live on getting promoted, and one man who can help us to that with his heart thundering under the LCFC badge is Emil Heskey. Even if he came here, and it turned out to be a mistake (it won't), he would not tarnish his reputation among the fans of Leicester City. And as a real fan, I really doubt he would care one bit - he would probably relish the chance to play for us again. I am apalled at how some fans on here don't want him back for various muppetish reasons. Just for the record Hesky grew up as a Liverpool fan.
davieG Posted 20 August 2010 Posted 20 August 2010 There have been an infinitesimal number of players convert from centre forward to centre back. Dion Dublin is NOT one of them. Dion began as a centre back and was converted to a centre forward, not the other way round. To claim a player can switch positions so dramatically is outrageous, to suggest Heskey do so is either stupid or an attempt to seem knowledgeable about football safe in the knowledge that probability means that you can never be disproved. To claim that he'd make a better centre back than Moreno does more to dispel the theory than support it seeing as Moreno is a defensive midfielder by trade. Being able to head a ball doesn't qualify you to be a centre back, without positional sense any ability to head is wasted as you'll never be anywhere near the ball. I'm not sure why you directed that tirade at me as I didn't say half of that and as for Heskey I believe he started of as CB. Players do change positions so my claim that it's not an outrageous idea in principle still stands. Of course you need other skills besides heading to be CB but if you miss every header in a game like Moreno did I hardly think that makes you likely material for the position.
fleckneymike Posted 20 August 2010 Posted 20 August 2010 I'm not sure why you directed that tirade at me as I didn't say half of that and as for Heskey I believe he started of as CB. Players do change positions so my claim that it's not an outrageous idea in principle still stands. Of course you need other skills besides heading to be CB but if you miss every header in a game like Moreno did I hardly think that makes you likely material for the position. It was directed at everyone who thinks he can play CB but I quoted you because yours was the most recent post (plus you made the Dion Dublin link which is a fallacy). Heskey started as a striker for City (that's where he debuted against QPR), played up front for City Of Leicester throughout his school career, he played a few games out wide in the first division and has played 5 games in defence according AVFC in his career. During that time the defence conceded over a goal a game so in my eyes (and I suggest most rational peoples) bringing back an England international striker on what would most likely be the highest wage at the club only to play him at centre back is stupid and any support of that idea is equally stupid. Believing Moreno can play at CB is not such a stupid idea because he's played one season in Portugal's top flight in that very position, I do however agree that he probably isn't a long term solution in that position but he's certainly better equipped than Emile.
Salieri Posted 20 August 2010 Posted 20 August 2010 Jesus christ, people bringing up his goal-scoring record again. He's never scored goals consistently anywhere, so why use that as an argument against him now? It's never been his predominant role in a team, yet it's always used against him. He's been first team material at every single Premier League club he's been at so far, until now at the age of 32 - it's never been a problem for them. I'd absolutely love seeing him back here, I just find it unbelievable that some wouldn't. Totally agree. +1
cambridgefox Posted 20 August 2010 Posted 20 August 2010 They never come back as good either, take Steve Guppy, a shadow of the player that he was under MON. Even back in 96/97 Emile divided the city support, I remember him getting some stick off the kop and a few shouting "10 grand a week for him to sit on his arse on a saturday afternoon" Might aswell chuck the money at Waghorn and develop the lad, Heskey at 32 with a goal ratio of 1 in 5 isnt the answer I think its me .what is so great about waghorn,he tries hard thats it,everyone thinks he is so great.Why? i would take Heskey every time.
davieG Posted 20 August 2010 Posted 20 August 2010 It was directed at everyone who thinks he can play CB but I quoted you because yours was the most recent post (plus you made the Dion Dublin link which is a fallacy). Heskey started as a striker for City (that's where he debuted against QPR), played up front for City Of Leicester throughout his school career, he played a few games out wide in the first division and has played 5 games in defence according AVFC in his career. During that time the defence conceded over a goal a game so in my eyes (and I suggest most rational peoples) bringing back an England international striker on what would most likely be the highest wage at the club only to play him at centre back is stupid and any support of that idea is equally stupid. Believing Moreno can play at CB is not such a stupid idea because he's played one season in Portugal's top flight in that very position, I do however agree that he probably isn't a long term solution in that position but he's certainly better equipped than Emile. As I've not put forward one argument re Heskey playing CB only that it's not impossible for players to change positions I'm still not sure why you're aiming all this Heskey stuff at me. But hey I'm out of here people are getting to uptight over this whole Heskey idea and I don't even think he should come back.
fleckneymike Posted 20 August 2010 Posted 20 August 2010 As I've not put forward one argument re Heskey playing CB only that it's not impossible for players to change positions I'm still not sure why you're aiming all this Heskey stuff at me. But hey I'm out of here people are getting to uptight over this whole Heskey idea and I don't even think he should come back. Like I said, it's not aimed at you, it's aimed at those who believe he can play CB. The etiquette on here is slightly more genteel than 'other' boards, Sam Tyler to Gene Hunt shall we say so you may have to excuse my slightly more robust style. Have a nice evening.
Legend_in_blue Posted 20 August 2010 Posted 20 August 2010 I think its me .what is so great about waghorn,he tries hard thats it,everyone thinks he is so great.Why? i would take Heskey every time. It's this Leicester fan mentality. It's as though if you run around like a madman, not necessarily doing an awful lot, but just running around and chasing down everything you become untouchable. Waghorn did it, so did Hume, as did Dickov and Savage etc etc. Players who don't do it, Gallagher is a prime example, get stick. I agree I would take Heskey on, there's absolutely no gamble there whatsoever and you know exactly what to expect.
tetly Posted 20 August 2010 Posted 20 August 2010 just sing him on loan untill the jan window opens, if he doin well do a deal and bring him home. gotta be in it to win it.
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