Osama Bin Laden Dead!

[BoneDog]

The bloke is a puppet to the banking cartels and the big powerful financiers. The guy is an absolute disaster in every sense of the word. The polices represented by Obama is more aggressive, more militaristic and more imperialistic than anything the neo-cons had.

But hey, when there's a clear unanimous consensus across "the ‘respectable" media, ranging from CNN, BBC, Al Jazeera, ABC, CBS, WWF, DDT to NYT, The Times and so forth, and yet you’re refusing to digest the information being force-fed, well, you’re at the edge of society and I'd question your mental stability, mate.

True about Obama and I think that one of the reasons they seem to have become even more aggressive, is because behind the scenes, some of the same neo-cons are still pulling the strings but without the public responsibility. Some of the people who Obama brought in to his administration have ties to the old lot and are basically Republicans and I am sure he is indebted to them sonehow.

And the second paragraph is a great depiction of how people who ask questions will be looked upon in the near future! I saw these quotes earlier on another forum....."It looks like those of us who ask questions are about to be demonized AGAIN". The response was...."What do you expect? Questions are bad!".

One day, everyone who can see through the official lies and questions things will be carted off to camps and the sheep population will stand at the side of the road cheering as they go! The world has gone insane, I tell thee

[ACF]

You can laugh, but now Osama's gone, the next massive threat to us all IS going to be from outer space!! But it will be fake (using CGI and hologram technology - piece of piss). Plans started on this is 1917 fo' real. So, in a year or two, when you see that big fack off ship in the sky, don't fret, just think "F*%k me - Empty was right" and go about your normal business. It'll just be a shit-hot hologram.

But let's get back to more provable business! I don't really think you love Ob by the way, was just messin about. You make a couple of good points there and your last sentence made me think of another obvious reason why you don't see the guys I mentioned on mainstream TV. Who owns most of the visual / audio media and even print media? Murdoch and Berlusconi are two of the major owners and their wings are spread far in that business. Those two guys are not going to want people like Fisk, Hersh or Pilger getting too much promotion as they would cause trouble for governments and corporations that they themselves are involved with.

Berlusconi is the most shifty person in politics, how the Italians can vote for him no one will know. I have respect for Murdoch for his achievements, how he went from something so small, to what he is, but the consequence is that there will be the element of control, which is the main problem with this whole issue. Bribe Murdoch, and you have got most of the world's media saying what you want to say.

[ACF]

One day, everyone who can see through the official lies and questions things will be carted off to camps and the sheep population will stand at the side of the road cheering as they go! The world has gone insane, I tell thee

And this is why Guantanamo Bay was created.

[BoneDog]

And this is why Guantanamo Bay was created.

And the FEMA camps in the USA that are ready and waiting empty. I feel sorry for the real patriots in the USA as they will be the first to be rounded up when the excrement hits the artificial wind generator.

[Steven]

The bullshit gets worse by the moment.

[Steven]

A witness to Bin Laden's 'death' says it's bullshit

[Finnegan]

You can laugh, but now Osama's gone, the next massive threat to us all IS going to be from outer space!! But it will be fake (using CGI and hologram technology - piece of piss). Plans started on this is 1917 fo' real. So, in a year or two, when you see that big fack off ship in the sky, don't fret, just think "F*%k me - Empty was right" and go about your normal business. It'll just be a shit-hot hologram.

... uhm, hello?

If you actually buy in to the Canadian Bacon theory then there are far easier targets existing in the world then faking space aliens.

[Steven]

"They Can Do DNA In Less Than 24 Hours! This Was In Less Than 5 Hours!"

[MikeyT]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13263270

Pakistan's President Asif Ali Zardari has denied that the killing of Osama Bin Laden in his country is a sign of its failure to tackle terrorism.

In an opinion piece in the Washington Post, Mr Zardari said his country was "perhaps the world's greatest victim of terrorism".

Bin Laden was shot dead by US forces in the Pakistani city of Abbottabad - Pakistan was not involved in the raid.

US officials said Bin Laden must have had a support system in Pakistan.

Bin Laden, 54, was the founder and leader of al-Qaeda. He is believed to have ordered the attacks on New York and Washington on 11 September 2001, as well as a number of other deadly bombings.

He was America's most wanted man but had eluded them for more than a decade.

But US officials say they are "99.9%" sure that the man they shot and killed in a raid on a secure compound in Abbottabad and later buried at sea was Bin Laden.

They said a video had been made of Bin Laden's burial but have not said yet whether it, or any photographs of Bin Laden's body, will be released.

'Enormous price'

The compound in Abbottabad is just a few hundred metres from the Pakistan Military Academy - the country's equivalent of West Point or Sandhurst

White House counter-terrorism chief John Brennan said it was "inconceivable that Bin Laden did not have a support system" in Pakistan.

But in his opinion piece, Mr Zardari said Pakistan had "never been and never will be the hotbed of fanaticism that is often described by the media".

"Such baseless speculation may make exciting cable news, but it doesn't reflect fact," he said.

The early morning serenity makes it all more extraordinary that the world's most wanted man was hiding here and ultimately killed here. People are still stunned by the news he was living among them.

President Zardari has said he could not possibly have known he was there, but the Pakistanis are going to have a very tough time deflecting that criticism.

Mr Zardari - and other officials including the prime minister - have talked about security co-operation with the US over years, ultimately leading to this point. But they have had to concede that this was solely a US operation.

It is interesting they are stressing so much that the Pakistanis were not involved, because they are worried about a militant backlash.

There are thousands of Islamist militants still living in the tribal areas - for them Bin Laden was a hero. So it is not just the authorities but the public that is worried about the repercussions on the streets. It is civilians that have borne the brunt of the war on terror and they are really fearful that Osama Bin Laden's death is not going to bring an end to that at all.

"Pakistan had as much reason to despise al-Qaeda as any nation. The war on terrorism is as much Pakistan's war as it is America's."

He said Pakistan, which has suffered repeated terror attacks on its civilians and security services, had "paid an enormous price for its stand against terrorism".

"More of our soldiers have died than all of Nato's casualties combined. Two thousand police officers, as many as 30,000 innocent civilians and a generation of social progress for our people have been lost. "

Mr Zardari added that Pakistan would not be intimidated by threats from al-Qaeda.

US officials have said Pakistan was not involved in the operation to kill Bin Laden.

But Mr Zardari said that although the two countries had not worked together on the operation, "a decade of co-operation and partnership between the United States and Pakistan led up to the elimination of Osama Bin Laden as a continuing threat to the civilised world".

Mr Zardari gave no explanation as to how Bin Laden had been able to live in relative comfort in Pakistan, but simply said he "was not anywhere we had anticipated he would be".

The BBC's Syed Shoaib Hasan in Islamabad says the Pakistani government is in a very difficult position - domestically the public are angry, while the US now wants to know whether any other wanted figures have found sanctuary there.

The silence from Pakistan's security service is perhaps the most surprising aspect so far, says our correspondent.

'Geronimo'

US President Barack Obama watched the entire operation in real time in the White House with his national security team.

Mr Brennan said: "The minutes passed like days."

President Obama: "We were reminded again that there is a pride in what this nation stands for"

CIA director Leon Panetta narrated via a video screen from a separate Washington office, with Bin Laden given the code name Geronimo.

Mr Panetta's narration lasted several minutes. "They've reached the target... We have a visual on Geronimo... Geronimo EKIA (enemy killed in action)."

Mr Obama said: "We got him."

Bin Laden, his son Khalid, trusted personal courier Sheikh Abu Ahmed and the courier's brother were all killed, along with an unidentified woman.

Bin Laden was shot above his left eye, blowing away a section of his skull, and was also shot in the chest.

Bin Laden's wife was shot in the calf and was one of nine women taken into custody by Pakistani authorities, along with 23 children, a US official quoted by Associated Press said.

Mr Obama hailed the death of Bin Laden as "good day for America", and said the world was now a safer and a better place.

He also praised the "heroes" who carried out the operations and, in a speech to congressional leaders, called for them to show "the same sense of unity that prevailed on 9/11".

After Mr Obama announced the news on Sunday night, there were jubilant scenes in Washington, New York and around the US.

But the US said the threat of terror attacks was not over, warning Americans of the possibility of al-Qaeda reprisal attacks.

Security has been increased at embassies and airports.

The US has closed its consulates in Lahore and Peshawar in Pakistan, but the embassy in Islamabad and consulate in Karachi have been reopened.

[Babylon]

But US officials say they are "99.9%" sure that the man they shot and killed in a raid on a secure compound in Abbottabad and later buried at sea was Bin Laden.

DNA is always 1 in a million, one in a billion territory. All convictions in this country are based on the same kind of percentages.

[Babylon]

A witness to Bin Laden's 'death' says it's bullshit

A witness? He wasn't in the house was he.

Just because someone hasn't seen him, doesn't mean he's not there. He's not exactly going to be popping down the shops for a pint of milk or taking the dog for a walk. And post isn't going to be arriving for O. Bin Laden.

Fair enough ask the US for evidence, but to come up with this bullshit as reasons for it being untrue is very weak.

[Babylon]

The bullshit gets worse by the moment.

That image was not released by the US. It was the pakistan TV that were fooled into using it and it spread from there.

If the US were going to make a fake image do you think they would use a picture from google, and then get the YTS lad to play around in photoshop?

[FoxyPV]

Hell has actually frozen over!!

Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck: 'Thank God for President Obama'Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck are among those heaping praise on Barack Obama. But Sarah Palin isn't easily swayed

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Rush Limbaugh: 'Thank god for President Obama.' Photograph: Eric Risberg/AP

Osama bin Laden was a divisive figure in life but in death he brought together an unholy trinity of Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and Barack Obama – with Limbaugh and Beck, two of Obama's harshest critics, uniting in praise of Obama's action.

"We need to open the programme today by congratulating President Obama," Limbaugh declared on his daily syndicated radio show on Monday. "President Obama has done something extremely effective, and when he does, this needs to be pointed out."

As always with Limbaugh, his words were laden with sarcasm, poking fun at the idea that Obama single-handedly executed the mission:

Thank God for President Obama. If he had not been there, who knows what would have happened. It was only Obama who understood the need to get DNA, to prove that this was Bin Laden that we had assassinated.

And there were backhanded compliments from Limbaugh as well: "We need to never forget that President Obama deserves praise for continuing the policies established by George W Bush which led to the acquisition of this intel that led us to the enlarged hut in Pakistan that led to the assassination of Bin Laden last night."

Glenn Beck was even more effusive than Limbaugh in his radio talk show on Monday, saying: "First of all, congratulations to President Obama. He got him."

Beck's praise echoed Limbaugh in thanking god for Obama, although without Limbaugh's trademark tongue-in-cheek note:

Thank God we have a president who actually authorized the shoot to kill. That is a surprising shock to me. And I think that deserves to be said, that I didn't think that this president would actually pull the trigger – well, he didn't, but have somebody pull the trigger – and he did. Congratulations, President Obama. Thank you for doing the right thing on this.

Other Republican and conservative commentators also praised Obama in a rare outbreak of bipartisanship. Bill Kristol, editor of the Weekly Standard, blogged:

Congratulations to all those, from the president on down, who are responsible for the achievement of tracking down and killing Osama bin Laden. The wheels of justice may sometimes turn slowly, but turn they do – with the help of the United States armed forces and intelligence personnel. Justice has been done.

Today's Guardian.

[Webbo]

DNA evidence supposedly verified? From what, a potato chip he ate in 1983?

The US took DNA from members of his family after 9/11, this has been announced on the news many times, it's hardly rocket science.

[breadandcheese]

The US took DNA from members of his family after 9/11, this has been announced on the news many times, it's hardly rocket science.

I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that the US could broadcast the video of his killing, spread photos of his dead body, show DNA evidence, pull his dead corpse out of the sea and parade it round on a humvee. It still wouldn't stop the conspiracy theorists. It would all be fake.

[purpleronnie]

He's a gonna. But most won't be happy until is body is paraded through london town with a stick up his arse.

[Samilktray]

Asking for a bit of proof that 1 of the worlds deadliest terrorists is actually dead, isnt too much to ask for really.

[cambridgefox]

i think he is dead,like the way the Americans like to take all the credit,they were not too loud when he slipped by them a few years back from under their noses.

One thing baffles me,when there was a reward of £15 million,how on earth was he not grassed up earlier?

Heard on the news last night,he was behind way more Muslim killings than westerners and was popular with only a small minority,so just do not understand why he was free for so long.

[Webbo]

Asking for a bit of proof that 1 of the worlds deadliest terrorists is actually dead, isnt too much to ask for really.

The people that don't believe it now won't believe it no matter what proof is offered up.

[purpleronnie]

People still think elvis presley is alive.

[cambridgefox]

Should make Deadliest catch more interesting next season."on board the North Western, after bringing up Bin Laden with a crab on his bollocks,the crew get to share the £15mill reward"

[Darkon84]

Not buying it

[Babylon]

I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that the US could broadcast the video of his killing, spread photos of his dead body, show DNA evidence, pull his dead corpse out of the sea and parade it round on a humvee. It still wouldn't stop the conspiracy theorists. It would all be fake.

Exactly, a bit sad really.

[Samilktray]

Bahhhh

[MPH]

I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that the US could broadcast the video of his killing, spread photos of his dead body, show DNA evidence, pull his dead corpse out of the sea and parade it round on a humvee. It still wouldn't stop the conspiracy theorists. It would all be fake.

agreed.