Finnegan Posted 12 October 2011 Posted 12 October 2011 Apology accepted finnegan But you're all talking about doing NVQs and further qualifications, learning at colleges and the like. It's not surprising that, as part of their course, they'd want to make sure you've got a good standard of literacy and numeracy. In fact, it's admirable. They'll be used to people fobbing them off and telling them they've got GCSEs, so it's a good filter to make sure they keep it mandatory. It's not how it's going to work in the real world. The point remains. Say James, for example, spots an opening at a rival banking firm and sends them his CV, aye? They're not going to look at the wealth of experience he's got and go "Sorry, mate, you're brilliantly qualified but your GCSEs are more than five years old" are they? Though, as a few of us have said, the older you get and the more work experience is on your CV, the less they really become relevant anyway.
Fox92 Posted 12 October 2011 Posted 12 October 2011 If you're one of those people who can learn straight from a book its possible to absolutely hit some CSS, HTML, PHP, Java books up and then offer to work on some websites for charities and small businesses. I know someone from my degree who went of on a complete tangent and started css'ing the myspace pages of some small music artists and managed to build up a portfolio and contacts and now he works for major record labels and big artists (some of the small artists he started with made it big too). Its definitely possible to do it that way if you're that kind of person. Yeah. I learnt CSS and HTML very quick, and now I like to sit and code on Dreamweaver at home. I just need to learn PHP and Java, so I think I will buy a book.
Rincewind Posted 12 October 2011 Posted 12 October 2011 I have a book on HTML. Don't really understand it. Never really understood the significance of the hidden characters before my IT course. Well too be honest didn't know how to acces them. I got frustrated when I was typing something and the paragraphs printed out wrong. Now I see it may have been because am extra line brea or paragraph break. Not sure how it works on messageboards. Lord_Sugar Lord Sugar Seem BB's still down. Massive damage to their image. Corporate users must be going bananas Lord_Sugar Lord Sugar In all my years in IT biz, I have never seen such a outage as experienced by Blackberry. I can't understand why it's taking so long to fix Even those in the business need technology. BTW HM Queen Liz is now following me. I tweeted asking her and Phil to come to the pub for a pint but she never turned up.
FoxyPV Posted 12 October 2011 Posted 12 October 2011 Just in case anyone on here has been told that key skills are the same as GCSEs - they're not, especially in education. Get out working as soon as you can and try to vary the work that you actually do.
Head Honcho Posted 12 October 2011 Posted 12 October 2011 Want any aged shelf fillers, cleaners warehouse tockists etc? I am willing to do anything and reliable for turning up on time. No sick days due to not being bothered to get out of bed. Live local close to the City Centre so no excue with transport delays. As I said doing an It course and Journalist course and have an appointment with an advisor at VAL next week re voluntary work. Would rather do some paid work though even part time. So far these credentials have not been good enough. Sorry Nightguard I forgot to mention the store was in Cardiff. Believe it or not last years snow is still affecting recruitment. Most retail firms have just revised their budgets for the year to compensate for the downturn in sales due to last years snow and this in turn means less to spend on wages.
Jon the Hat Posted 12 October 2011 Posted 12 October 2011 When I did my CV I never put my nightschool GSCE English down because I thopught I should have done better. May have been a D. Anyway I was told by an advisor to put everything down. I have not updated my CV yet. Its only one page long. 30 years in the hosiery and 3 jobs in security. One page? Have you not done different roles in your 30 years? Learned skills, done training, trained others, worked as part of a team, led a team, something which shows you have skills which you can transfer to different industries? I work in finance, and I see CVs which list a role without giving me any idea as to what they actually did in that role. Don't assume that the reader has a clue what you were actually responsible for. I think a one page CV would most likely end up in the bin, just like a 5 pager. A good CV is a synopsis of a story, not a list, and not the whole text.
Head Honcho Posted 12 October 2011 Posted 12 October 2011 One page? Have you not done different roles in your 30 years? Learned skills, done training, trained others, worked as part of a team, led a team, something which shows you have skills which you can transfer to different industries? I work in finance, and I see CVs which list a role without giving me any idea as to what they actually did in that role. Don't assume that the reader has a clue what you were actually responsible for. I think a one page CV would most likely end up in the bin, just like a 5 pager. A good CV is a synopsis of a story, not a list, and not the whole text. It might also be worth adapting your CV to the job you are applying for. Some of the things on your current CV might not be relevant to a particular job you are applying for.
Jon the Hat Posted 12 October 2011 Posted 12 October 2011 It might also be worth adapting your CV to the job you are applying for. Some of the things on your current CV might not be relevant to a particular job you are applying for. Very true. Many people see a CV as something fixed, when it isn't. I change mine for every job. Use the advert and tailor the wording to sell the particular skills they are looking for.
Bert Posted 12 October 2011 Posted 12 October 2011 But you're all talking about doing NVQs and further qualifications, learning at colleges and the like. It's not surprising that, as part of their course, they'd want to make sure you've got a good standard of literacy and numeracy. In fact, it's admirable. They'll be used to people fobbing them off and telling them they've got GCSEs, so it's a good filter to make sure they keep it mandatory. It's not how it's going to work in the real world. The point remains. Say James, for example, spots an opening at a rival banking firm and sends them his CV, aye? They're not going to look at the wealth of experience he's got and go "Sorry, mate, you're brilliantly qualified but your GCSEs are more than five years old" are they? Though, as a few of us have said, the older you get and the more work experience is on your CV, the less they really become relevant anyway. It's more aimed at the building industry then anything else. I was told I wouldn't be able to pass my first year without passing my KS again.
Steven Posted 12 October 2011 Posted 12 October 2011 Good luck to everyone looking for work against the backdrop of today's jobless figures. A bright spot though is "East Midlands 183,000 minus 1,000 7.9% " http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/uk-unemployment-hits-highest-level-for-17-years-2369313.html
Fox92 Posted 12 October 2011 Posted 12 October 2011 http://www.independe...rs-2369313.html I think I'm in the 'lost generation' because there is no work.
The Year Of The Fox Posted 12 October 2011 Posted 12 October 2011 But you're all talking about doing NVQs and further qualifications, learning at colleges and the like. It's not surprising that, as part of their course, they'd want to make sure you've got a good standard of literacy and numeracy. In fact, it's admirable. They'll be used to people fobbing them off and telling them they've got GCSEs, so it's a good filter to make sure they keep it mandatory. It's not how it's going to work in the real world. The point remains. Say James, for example, spots an opening at a rival banking firm and sends them his CV, aye? They're not going to look at the wealth of experience he's got and go "Sorry, mate, you're brilliantly qualified but your GCSEs are more than five years old" are they? Though, as a few of us have said, the older you get and the more work experience is on your CV, the less they really become relevant anyway. I've never said GCSEs are as important as life and work experience. But I do wonder what the point is in taking them if they're irrelevant
The Year Of The Fox Posted 12 October 2011 Posted 12 October 2011 Caterpillar ate recruiting. Just heard it on the radio. Tigers ground Tuesday n Thursday evenings. My mates son just got on with them as an apprentice. 1st weekly salary 195, and if you are not late or sick every 3 months a 500 bonus. Starting wage after qualification 28k.
Simmo86 Posted 12 October 2011 Posted 12 October 2011 I think I'm in the 'lost generation' because there is no work. There's work if you want it, just might not be what your after. I started off at the place Im working now filling glue bottles in a freezing cold shed and I ****ing hated it. But I just sucked it up, kept my head down and worked hard, progressed through different jobs, now 5 and half years later I'm on course for a middle management job. Your very unlikely to walk into a job you really like, just get in somewhere, get your head down, be enthusiastic and things will come good for you.
ajthefox Posted 12 October 2011 Posted 12 October 2011 I think I'm in the 'lost generation' because there is no work. http://jobseekers.direct.gov.uk/homepage.aspx?sessionid=aed0fad6-fa01-4442-852e-7c227446d4d9&pid=4
Rincewind Posted 12 October 2011 Posted 12 October 2011 One page? Have you not done different roles in your 30 years? Learned skills, done training, trained others, worked as part of a team, led a team, something which shows you have skills which you can transfer to different industries? I work in finance, and I see CVs which list a role without giving me any idea as to what they actually did in that role. Don't assume that the reader has a clue what you were actually responsible for. I think a one page CV would most likely end up in the bin, just like a 5 pager. A good CV is a synopsis of a story, not a list, and not the whole text. I worked 30 years in a hosiery factory. Started off as a cob boy going to a local shop for sandwiches, worked in the packing area of a warehouse then on a production line matching socks up. There was not much call for leadership or training for new skills etc. I just followed orders and took home a monthly salary from a job I thought I would have for life. Then tried security on the suggestion of someone I knew. Same thing I was told how to do the job and I did it to the best of my ablity. I was over fifty then so I was happy to bide my time. Now I am unemployed 5 or 6 years from retirement unless I am told I have to work longer and trying out things I was unable or did not need to take for the work that I did. But I do the job and tasks I am given to the best of my ability. I do not take 'sickies' and I am reliable to see a job through. And all that only fills one page. I may get another half a page by doing voluntary work and an IT course but it may be 30 years too late. I will get in touch with the advisor I saw at a help Centre to update my CV though once I have more to put down.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 15 October 2011 Posted 15 October 2011 I worked 30 years in a hosiery factory. Started off as a cob boy going to a local shop for sandwiches, worked in the packing area of a warehouse then on a production line matching socks up. There was not much call for leadership or training for new skills etc. I just followed orders and took home a monthly salary from a job I thought I would have for life. Then tried security on the suggestion of someone I knew. Same thing I was told how to do the job and I did it to the best of my ablity. I was over fifty then so I was happy to bide my time. Now I am unemployed 5 or 6 years from retirement unless I am told I have to work longer and trying out things I was unable or did not need to take for the work that I did. But I do the job and tasks I am given to the best of my ability. I do not take 'sickies' and I am reliable to see a job through. And all that only fills one page. I may get another half a page by doing voluntary work and an IT course but it may be 30 years too late. I will get in touch with the advisor I saw at a help Centre to update my CV though once I have more to put down. Good luck for the future, and hope you find something soon.
Fox92 Posted 25 January 2012 Posted 25 January 2012 So, I've been struggling for work since I left college - as my previous posts read. Anyway, I saw this really good job today, applied for it this morning and the company phoned me up for an interview which will take place tomorow at 10am. Really pleased to be fair. It's a web design job, something I want to do, so if I can get in with a local company and work me way up, who knows.
Webbo Posted 25 January 2012 Posted 25 January 2012 So, I've been struggling for work since I left college - as my previous posts read. Anyway, I saw this really good job today, applied for it this morning and the company phoned me up for an interview which will take place tomorow at 10am. Really pleased to be fair. It's a web design job, something I want to do, so if I can get in with a local company and work me way up, who knows. Best of luck.
Saxondale Posted 25 January 2012 Posted 25 January 2012 I've been out of work since September. Not claiming JSA as I'm living off (rapidly dwindling) redundancy money for now. The job market is ridiculously tough at the moment and I've been getting to final stage interviews and losing out to people with more experience. I wish I'd done an apprenticeship at 16 to be honest, rather than the degree route. I would have liked to start an apprenticeship now but as a graduate, while it's technically possible to get an apprenticeship, it's effectively impossible as the employer wouldn't receive funding for your training.
Rincewind Posted 25 January 2012 Posted 25 January 2012 What are you looking to do? I posted a link to a free Office Skills course. It includes management IT and communication. It could lead to something and something for your CV. I have my first interview in 7 months tomorrow and its only a 1st interview. My savings have gone already but kindly propped up by family members. Overspent at start thinking a tribunal would be resolved and a job would come along. The job market is pretty bad atm. Employers are swamped with CV's for few vacancies.
Fox92 Posted 25 January 2012 Posted 25 January 2012 I have my first interview in 7 months tomorrow Good luck. I also have an interview tomorow.
Rincewind Posted 25 January 2012 Posted 25 January 2012 Went by the office where the interview and the block of flats where the job is was adverising in the window (Elizabeth House) Set up 24 hr security now rent around £74 a week. A long time ago I knew someone who lived on about the 14th floor. Fell or jumped to his death. Used to work with him. They found unpaid bills and demands in a flat. He did like his drink though and one theory was that he tried to open a window cuz of the heat and fell after being on the booze all day. A week or so before he came round my flat wanting to borrow money. I said I never had it to lend. One thing he did say once was he was worried about going blind but if he decided to end it he would use the pills and bottle of whiskey method.
Webbo Posted 25 January 2012 Posted 25 January 2012 I have my first interview in 7 months tomorrow and its only a 1st interview. Best of luck Ken.
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