Vardinhio Posted 4 September 2011 Posted 4 September 2011 Thracian, one word to describe you sometimes... Deluded. You complain about previous regimes. A manager who guided us to promotion and had the foresight to introduce Cleverley and Davies, two prominent attacking midfielders now playing in the premiership. But no, he was too boring and straight laced?!? But wait... obviously Pearson's profesionalism was too much for you so now you also criticise Sven's less defensively disciplined approach, an approach which led us to be one of the highest scoring teams last year. When will you realise we are not Barcelona or Man Utd and therefore we can not play like them. So just to confirm, we do not have the players to play how you would ideally like.... no manager can solve that.
Toffee_Fox Posted 4 September 2011 Posted 4 September 2011 The twitter doing the rounds is fake, hes not on twitter. @MartynWaghorn
lcfc_sam_p Posted 5 September 2011 Posted 5 September 2011 Have to agree with most of what thracian says here. The football under Pearson was very negative. However he achieved results, and I certainly wasn't complaining when we won the league 1 title. IF we did go up though I would have feared the results we would inevitably get. In the premiership you have to keep the ball and make the most of your posession. Too often the 'hoofball' tactics gave away the ball and invited pressure on to us. With the higher quality players in the prem we would have been punished a hell of a lot. In sven we have somebody who does like to pass the ball, and use more technically gifted players. We are going the right way IMO. Waghorn is clearly a confidence player. He has very little of that at Leicester at the moment. The loan move was the best situation for everyone. He has an ability to muster up chances for himself, although once in the position he frustratingly misses the target. He has been given chances this season and last season, and if Sven sees him in training everyday and he's performing like he does when we see him then he's definitely making the right decision.
Guest shearfox Posted 5 September 2011 Posted 5 September 2011 Scored again for the u21's Sign him up!!!!
The Year Of The Fox Posted 5 September 2011 Posted 5 September 2011 Good for him. Be interesting to see how the football 'experts' on here criticise that finish.
adam95581 Posted 5 September 2011 Posted 5 September 2011 Good header, any decent striker should score it to be fair.
yorkie1999 Posted 5 September 2011 Posted 5 September 2011 whatever happens, sven, please dont sell waggy!!!!
Leicester Bob Posted 5 September 2011 Posted 5 September 2011 I love the kid cracking attitude, seems a lovely lad and a top footballer (in his first year at least) great to see him doing well, even if we sell him will be keeping an eye on his career hoping he kicks on.
Leicester Bob Posted 5 September 2011 Posted 5 September 2011 I love the kid cracking attitude, seems a lovely lad and a top footballer (in his first year at least) great to see him doing well, even if we sell him will be keeping an eye on his career hoping he kicks on.
accessory Posted 5 September 2011 Posted 5 September 2011 I love the kid cracking attitude, seems a lovely lad and a top footballer (in his first year at least) great to see him doing well, even if we sell him will be keeping an eye on his career hoping he kicks on. I'm sure he'll return to the Premier League in due course - probably not with us though. Can't see how, other than through injuries, he'd be able to displace Nugent or Beckford in our side.
thybluefox Posted 5 September 2011 Posted 5 September 2011 Just because he's playing well for the u21s doesn't change the fact he's been rubbish for the last 9 months. And before anyone says it, I'm really pleased for him, just can't be doing with all the "I told you so"'s on here.
Jimmy Posted 5 September 2011 Posted 5 September 2011 he was also playing on the wing, so all the people saying he can't play there going to take that back now?
liamsm Posted 6 September 2011 Posted 6 September 2011 Good header, any decent striker should score it to be fair. Glad you said that "any decent striker should score" are people on here finally admiting that Waggy is a decent striker?
funkyrobot Posted 6 September 2011 Posted 6 September 2011 It's sven's gradel moment. Good enough for England u21's not good enough for city. Sven was that desperate for him to leave that he'd rather compromise and reduce his options up front than keep the lad. We have very few goalscoring options now. Nugent out for a good spell and we are relying on beckford not getting injured with a very young schlupp as the only other front man who can hit a donkey's arse with a banjo.
lestajigs Posted 6 September 2011 Posted 6 September 2011 **** sake I'm a waghorn fan, but it he was terrible for us for the last few months, why can't most people on here see that
Mack Posted 6 September 2011 Author Posted 6 September 2011 I think Waghorn's failure to show the form he did on loan since he signed is for a number of reasons. Pearson played a different system that suited Waghorn more. He's been played wide most of the time. Sven maybe does'nt fancy Waggy as a player the same way Pearson did. We could go on and on but the facts are that some players dont suit some Manager's systems or styles and I think this is the case with Waghorn and Sven. He will probably go on to do well back in a system under Pearson that worked well for him before. I hope he does and we get a decent fee for him in January because a fresh start for him looks best for all involved.
lcfc_sam_p Posted 6 September 2011 Posted 6 September 2011 Did anyone actually watch the game? He took his header well but was crap all I game. Falling over at every opportunity, couple of setpieces wasted (suprise suprise). I think he has potential but he wasn't 'playing well'. Before somebody says 'but he scored, that's all he needs to do' yakubu got slated on here last year..
Corky Posted 6 September 2011 Posted 6 September 2011 It's sven's gradel moment. Good enough for England u21's not good enough for city. Sven was that desperate for him to leave that he'd rather compromise and reduce his options up front than keep the lad. We have very few goalscoring options now. Nugent out for a good spell and we are relying on beckford not getting injured with a very young schlupp as the only other front man who can hit a donkey's arse with a banjo. What is this Gradel moment? Did he take Leeds into the Premier League? I would've liked him to stay, but it's not as though he's leading another club merrily in the top flight while we're left behind. We will see what happens with Waghorn, but saying it's a mistake before he's even pulled on a Hull shirt is a bit premature.
MC Prussian Posted 6 September 2011 Posted 6 September 2011 It's sven's gradel moment. Good enough for England u21's not good enough for city. Sven was that desperate for him to leave that he'd rather compromise and reduce his options up front than keep the lad. We have very few goalscoring options now. Nugent out for a good spell and we are relying on beckford not getting injured with a very young schlupp as the only other front man who can hit a donkey's arse with a banjo. It's always a gamble. At least Sven has shown that he still sees something in Waghorn by only letting him go out on loan. As for the "striker crisis", no one could really foresee that Nugent's injury was worse than first thought and that he would be out an additional three weeks. I bet the loan deal was lined up quite early, but SGE and Andrew Neville wanted to wait and see whether they'd get Beckford or not. You also forgot to mention Howard, who's still with the club. Now, I'm not saying he's the answer, but he can still offer something up front.
funkyrobot Posted 6 September 2011 Posted 6 September 2011 Corky, the gradel moment was when we got rid of a player with clear ability and sold them for peanuts to a rival club. Waghorn fits this description. Dumped by Sven and double goalscorer for England u21's says it all. Mc Prussian . Didn't forsee a striker crisis? Injuries are very common, Sven seems to collect midfielders for these instances but is keen to offload players with striking ability. First fryatt and now waghorn. I didn't forget Howard. He fits into leicester's group of strikers that couldn't hit a donkey's arse with a banjo. You admit yourself that he's not the answer.
MC Prussian Posted 6 September 2011 Posted 6 September 2011 Corky, the gradel moment was when we got rid of a player with clear ability and sold them for peanuts to a rival club. Waghorn fits this description. Dumped by Sven and double goalscorer for England u21's says it all. Mc Prussian . Didn't forsee a striker crisis? Injuries are very common, Sven seems to collect midfielders for these instances but is keen to offload players with striking ability. First fryatt and now waghorn. I didn't forget Howard. He fits into leicester's group of strikers that couldn't hit a donkey's arse with a banjo. You admit yourself that he's not the answer. No, they're not. Or else us and any other team in the FL would be short in every department. Besides, football squads usually consist of more midfielders than strikers. I think you know why that is. So claiming that Sven is "collecting" midfielders is simply wrong. In addition, if you want to compete for a long season, you need cover in all areas. Or would you rather see Leicester come up with a threadbare squad of 19, 20, 21 players? It's time you let Fryatt go yourself. The guy's a decent striker, but hasn't set the world alight at Hull (yet). He's not playing any better up there than he was when in Leicester colours. And how convenient that you quote only half of my previous comment about Steve Howard. It says "Now I'm not saying he's the answer, but he still has something to offer up front". How about that? On a sidenote, we could (yes, could) still get a striker in on loan if needed.
RowlattsFox Posted 6 September 2011 Posted 6 September 2011 Waghorn wanted to go, Sven has said numerous times that he wanted to keep him but understands he needs games.
Fox92 Posted 6 September 2011 Posted 6 September 2011 Mc Prussian . Didn't forsee a striker crisis? Injuries are very common, Sven seems to collect midfielders for these instances but is keen to offload players with striking ability. First fryatt and now waghorn. I didn't forget Howard. He fits into leicester's group of strikers that couldn't hit a donkey's arse with a banjo. You admit yourself that he's not the answer. I know Fryatt is a natural finisher but Waghorn isn't. Ok, he's score two goals for England but I still don't rate him. You watch him the next time you see him play, he has no control in his shots what so ever, he just seems to hit them as hard as he can all the time, hence, the ball always goes over the bar. Pearson will have the ability to give him confidence though, but, Waghorn still wouldn't be the option for me.
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