FuriousFox46 Posted 20 September 2011 Posted 20 September 2011 What do we think? Joint 20th? http://www.aboutaball.co.uk/aboutaball-historical-football-rankings/historical-ranking-of-english-football-clubs Points system included, perhaps should add something for away attendance and home support too Top 20 for the lazy ones 1. Liverpool 2. Manchester United 3. Arsenal 4. Aston Villa 5. Everton 6. Tottenham Hotspur 7. Newcastle United 8. Sunderland 9. Chelsea 10. Manchester City 11. Blackburn 12. Sheffield Wednesday 13. Wolves 14. Nottingham Forest 15. WBA 16. Derby 17. Bolton 18= Leeds 18= Sheffield United 20= Burnley 20= Leicester 20= Preston
Guest Bilo Posted 20 September 2011 Posted 20 September 2011 Leeds higher surely? Preston!? Won the league and cup double when dinosaurs roamed the earth. I could be wrong but they could have won an FA Cup or two since as well, we probably are talking 50 or more years since they troubled any trophy engraver though.
FuriousFox46 Posted 20 September 2011 Author Posted 20 September 2011 Leeds United Domestic competition League titles [72] First Division Winners (3) 1968–69, 1973–74, 1991–92 Runners Up (5) 1964–65, 1965–66, 1969– 70, 1970–71, 1971–72 Second Division Winners (3) 1923–24, 1963–64, 1989–90 Runners Up (3) 1927–28, 1931–32, 1955–56 Football League One Runners Up (1) 2009–10 Football League play-offs Second Division Play off Final Runners Up (1) 1986–87 Championship Play off Final Runners Up (1) 2005–06 League 1 Play off Final Runners Up (1) 2007–08 Cups FA Cup Winners (1) 1972 Runners Up (3) 1965, 1970, 1973 League Cup Winners (1) 1968 Runners Up (1) 1996 FA Charity Shield Winners (2) 1969, 1992 Runners Up (1) 1974 FA Youth Cup Winners (2) 1993, 1997 European competition European Cup Runners Up (1) 1975 Cup Winners' Cup Runners Up (1) 1973 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup/UEFA Cup Winners (2) 1968, 1971 Runners Up (1) 1967 Inter Cities Fairs Cup – the play-off Runners Up (1) 1971
Trav Le Bleu Posted 20 September 2011 Posted 20 September 2011 Despite their recent languishing in lower leagues, Leeds are surely, historically at least, one of the biggest teams in the country. Blackburn are only in there cos Jack Walker bought them the league.
Libertine Dream Posted 20 September 2011 Posted 20 September 2011 Did this on talksport the other day. Not too disimilar
Raj Posted 20 September 2011 Posted 20 September 2011 How ar Liverpool top when they aint even won the League in most teenagers life time?? Gotta be MAnure top
Yojoe36 Posted 20 September 2011 Posted 20 September 2011 I'm alright with that. Hopefully shuts Cov fans up. As they say "We were in the Premier League for 30 years straight"
m00nie Posted 20 September 2011 Posted 20 September 2011 How ar Liverpool top when they aint even won the League in most teenagers life time?? Gotta be MAnure top most of the teams on there success hasnt been in most teenagers life time though...
accessory Posted 20 September 2011 Posted 20 September 2011 Tables like this are total BS. The number of trophies won by Preston, Blackburn and others during the Victorian era bear no relation to those clubs' size now.
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 21 September 2011 Posted 21 September 2011 Blackburn, 11th?! The fuck is that about.
THFC6061 Posted 21 September 2011 Posted 21 September 2011 All-Time English Football Trophy Winners 1871-72 to 2010-11
The Doctor Posted 21 September 2011 Posted 21 September 2011 When the **** did Newcastle win anything?
Alexikokopops Posted 21 September 2011 Posted 21 September 2011 How ar Liverpool top when they aint even won the League in most teenagers life time?? Gotta be MAnure top That table in the first link was last updated over two seasons ago, so Liverpool had more titles than Man Utd. Anyway, the table's a bit stupid because it's heavily skewed by earlier events that no one alive today remembers. It would be more interesting to see it done on the past, say, 50 years. It's always such a subjective thing too, despite the attempts, because you have to work out how points are divided between the various aspects (to which there is no right or wrong answer). Not that I think we should necessarily be any higher up the list mind.
Fox92 Posted 21 September 2011 Posted 21 September 2011 How ar Liverpool top when they aint even won the League in most teenagers life time?? Liverpool have 22 League trophies (when they have won the league), or is it more? I know they have more than Man Utd though. I think Liverpool are the biggest in the country. Huddersfield not up there? Suprised to see that. Big club, massive fan base with a fair amount of trophies.
Tom17LCFC Posted 21 September 2011 Posted 21 September 2011 Liverpool have 22 League trophies (when they have won the league), or is it more? I know they have more than Man Utd though. I think Liverpool are the biggest in the country. Huddersfield not up there? Suprised to see that. Big club, massive fan base with a fair amount of trophies. Haven't Liverpool got 19 league titles with Man Utd? Agree with Huddersfield though, thought surely if Preston & Burnley are up there then Huddersfield should be too.
Fox92 Posted 21 September 2011 Posted 21 September 2011 Haven't Liverpool got 19 league titles with Man Utd? Agree with Huddersfield though, thought surely if Preston & Burnley are up there then Huddersfield should be too. I don't know what this is based on. Liverpool have got 18 Division 1 league titles (prem) I think, but they also have another 4 league titles or something from Divison 2 (championship) which makes them have the most out of every team in England. I didn't know about that untill I read it in a book just the other month actually.
Tom17LCFC Posted 21 September 2011 Posted 21 September 2011 I don't know what this is based on. Liverpool have got 18 Division 1 league titles (prem) I think, but they also have another 4 league titles or something from Divison 2 (championship) which makes them have the most out of every team in England. I didn't know about that untill I read it in a book just the other month actually. Ah right, sorry... Didn't consider titles from the 2nd tier. I think you're right in saying Liverpool are the biggest historically though!
Fox92 Posted 21 September 2011 Posted 21 September 2011 Ah right, sorry... Didn't consider titles from the 2nd tier. I think you're right in saying Liverpool are the biggest historically though! Just looking on wikipedia now, they have 23 all together if you count the Lancashire League. But, yeah, I rekon they are the biggest club in the Country and most certainly one of the biggest in the World. 7 FA Cup, 5 European Cups, 3 UEFA cups, 3 supercups etc
Corky Posted 21 September 2011 Posted 21 September 2011 When the **** did Newcastle win anything? They've won four league titles and six FA Cups.
accessory Posted 21 September 2011 Posted 21 September 2011 Just looking on wikipedia now, they have 23 all together if you count the Lancashire League. But, yeah, I rekon they are the biggest club in the Country and most certainly one of the biggest in the World. 7 FA Cup, 5 European Cups, 3 UEFA cups, 3 supercups etc Really? Man Utd - 12 Premier League titles, average home crowd 75k Liverpool - 0 Premier League titles, average home crowd 42k
Fox92 Posted 21 September 2011 Posted 21 September 2011 Really? Man Utd - 12 Premier League titles, average home crowd 75k Liverpool - 0 Premier League titles, average home crowd 42k In my opinion yes. Although Manchester United have more Premier League titles, and they get a bigger gate (how many fans actually in there are from Manchester?) I still think Liverpool are bigger. Theres just something about Liverpool for me. Old Trafford can hold more than what Anfield can anyway.
The Year Of The Fox Posted 23 September 2011 Posted 23 September 2011 In my opinion yes. Although Manchester United have more Premier League titles, and they get a bigger gate (how many fans actually in there are from Manchester?) I still think Liverpool are bigger. Theres just something about Liverpool for me. Old Trafford can hold more than what Anfield can anyway. Liverpool are only called a big club by their own fans nowadays. They're a shocking club. It's alright going on about attendance but you won't hear the media report back about one of their 19k crowds last season.
Fox92 Posted 23 September 2011 Posted 23 September 2011 Liverpool are only called a big club by their own fans nowadays. They're a shocking club. It's alright going on about attendance but you won't hear the media report back about one of their 19k crowds last season. I think Liverpool are the biggest club in the league. What makes a club big though? It's the history of the club isn't it? In that case, Liverpool are the most successful in the country. Look at the players they have had, and look at what they have won. They had abit of a knock within the last few seasons, when was the last time they won something? 2005? They were poorly owned as well. They top that table on page 1 - what can't speak, can't lie.
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