He's not bald Posted 18 December 2011 Posted 18 December 2011 Fernandes came on twice as sub and showed more energy and passion than the rest of the midfield put together. He asked to play in a stiffs game and scored 4 goals. He then has to sit on the bench and watch the same FNP midfield show no skill, imagination or passion for the 3rd game running and still doesn't even get on as a sub. Why the fook would he want to stop? We're forcing probably the best midfield player we have out the club. Danns and Beckford are probably thinking the same as well. How does Howard get picked? It's beyond me. Most on here were glad to see the back of Sven due to him not having a plan b, does FNP, I'm yet to see one. He and his team knew a lot of the squad and this division, allegedly, I'm yet to see proof of it. This team is getting worse. I expect to see Weale played before much longer and Waghorn brought back in the new year. If we seriously have 10m to spend then Sharp and a decent wide player will take most of that. It won't leave much to replace the rest of the midfield if you've pissed off Danns and Fernandes, who if played in their correct positions, could potentially turn this season around. The lack of imagination and risk taking shown by FNP so far makes me shudder at what would hapen to us should he ever get us promoted. Plan B? that's a laugh, there was never a plan A and from what I saw yesterday from certain "top drawer" players, we are a joke and if it's not sorted soon we will be in trouble! Fook the transfer window let's sort out who actually want's to play for Leicester and give them a chance to make sure we are not relegated, blow out the expensive passengers and then Pearson can get together a squad to go for it next season. He's still the right the man for the job...just look at Hull...(that ain't Nick Barmies team!)
Corky Posted 18 December 2011 Posted 18 December 2011 I lost interest the day Pearson returned. It's fair to say that my early optimism has started to erode after the last two performances and results.
hackneyfox Posted 18 December 2011 Posted 18 December 2011 Plan B? that's a laugh, there was never a plan A from what I saw yesterday from certain "top drawer" players, we are a joke and if it's not sorted soon we will be in trouble! Fook the transfer window let's sort out who actually want's to play for Leicester and give them a chance to make sure we are not relegated, blow out the expensive passengers and then Pearson can get together a squad to go for it next season. He's still the right the man for the job...just look at Hull...(that ain't Nick Barmies team!) Yet strangely even though it is FNP's team they are performing and achieving more than they did under Pearson. Strange? Probably not
Happy Fox Posted 18 December 2011 Posted 18 December 2011 I agree with Hackney it is going to take far more than £10m to sort us out with revamping the whole midfield and possibly getting another striker in, then getting rid of the deadwood. This season is a write off imo, as far as promotion is concerned we will be lucky to scrape into the playoffs and we know how much of a lottery that is. I am not criticizing NP but I am somewhat bemused at him persisting with the same ineffective midfield.
Kitchandro Posted 18 December 2011 Posted 18 December 2011 Yet strangely even though it is FNP's team they are performing and achieving more than they did under Pearson. Strange? Probably not Lets give it longer than 6 games before we label Pearson a failure and hail Barmby a genius. No? Ok forget it then.
Guest DavidJCW Posted 18 December 2011 Posted 18 December 2011 Hey, Pearson sorted this team out when he was here last, give him his dues and time this time round to sort it out again! If he is playing those players he knows, he'll be doing it for a reason.
NeilyBoy Posted 18 December 2011 Posted 18 December 2011 Having a reason isn't the same as being right... Personally, despite the uninspiring start, I'm gonna hold out hope a bit longer - it's not like he'll be gone tomorrow so I may as well support him while he's managing my team.
hackneyfox Posted 19 December 2011 Posted 19 December 2011 Lets give it longer than 6 games before we label Pearson a failure and hail Barmby a genius. No? Ok forget it then. Are you happy thaty Howard got picked ahead of Beckford? Are you happy that Howard even got picked? Try Schlupp instead, surely we all know Howard is a lump who shouldn't start a game. Are you happy that Fernandes and Danns seem to be being forced out the club? Why does he persist with his old midfield who let's be honest we all know are not5 going to get us promoted. After the last few games where they have achieved fook all why would you not be trying out Abe, Fernandes and Danns in their correct positions. He has a few games before he needs to be signing new players, how can he do that if he hasn't tried players he doesn't know in their correct positions. I wan't best pleased at us signing FNP but was willing to give him another chance, something he seems unwilling to do with players who aren't his signings. Sven got slated on here for only 'loving' the players he'd signed. You have mentioned in other threads that you think Fernandes has potential. I tend to agree with you that Abe is too lightweight but as the midfield is currently doing the square root of fookall surely he should try anyone and everyone. I think this season is already screwed, I'd like us to try players we currently have before spending money on players that may be no better.
mustapha_teabreak Posted 19 December 2011 Posted 19 December 2011 Why would you want players here who clearly don't want to be here? Johnson is a fat has-been who will very soon find his level (the dole queue) and Fernandes lost interest as soon as Svennis was shown the door. Glad to see the back of the pair of them. We can do better in January. being a fat has-been hasn't stopped 1-touch richie from getting game time?
ozleicester Posted 19 December 2011 Posted 19 December 2011 Perhaps Gelson is really a true city fan... lets be honest, hes not the only fan to be disapointed.
accessory Posted 19 December 2011 Posted 19 December 2011 No doubt when he's back at St Etienne he'll be able to swap stories with Maxi about how Pearson fcuked them over. The fact he was unable to get on with them and preferred to indulge a certain clique of players with far less ability says more about him than it does about them.
lcfcsnow Posted 19 December 2011 Posted 19 December 2011 Did anyone see him prematch against Peterborough? I just remembered he wasn't taking part in any of the warm up, he was just stood to the side on his own for 10-15 minutes watching the players shooting practice. Felt quite sorry for him actually. No doubt when he's back at St Etienne he'll be able to swap stories with Maxi about how Pearson fcuked them over. The fact he was unable to get on with them and preferred to indulge a certain clique of players with far less ability says more about him than it does about them. Agreed, it's clearly still a problem and which I was fed up with last time he was here. We will continue to lose decent players because of our managers flawed personality.
Kitchandro Posted 19 December 2011 Posted 19 December 2011 Are you happy thaty Howard got picked ahead of Beckford? Are you happy that Howard even got picked? Try Schlupp instead, surely we all know Howard is a lump who shouldn't start a game. Are you happy that Fernandes and Danns seem to be being forced out the club? Why does he persist with his old midfield who let's be honest we all know are not5 going to get us promoted. After the last few games where they have achieved fook all why would you not be trying out Abe, Fernandes and Danns in their correct positions. He has a few games before he needs to be signing new players, how can he do that if he hasn't tried players he doesn't know in their correct positions. I wan't best pleased at us signing FNP but was willing to give him another chance, something he seems unwilling to do with players who aren't his signings. Sven got slated on here for only 'loving' the players he'd signed. You have mentioned in other threads that you think Fernandes has potential. I tend to agree with you that Abe is too lightweight but as the midfield is currently doing the square root of fookall surely he should try anyone and everyone. I think this season is already screwed, I'd like us to try players we currently have before spending money on players that may be no better. If the season is screwed, Sven needs to take a large chunk of the blame. Pearson is playing with mostly his squad. No I don't agree with some of Nigel's decisions, but he's still only had 6 games hasn't he? Or has he? He's not had a transfer window has he? Or am I mistaken? It's blatantly obvious that he knows we need strengthening, he knows that we don't have enough quality players in the squad to put an acceptable starting 11 out. Hopefully he will fix this. Now if he gets the wrong players in January or not enough good players I will be the first to say so and I wil criticise. Everyone's been saying 'Wellens is crap, King is crap, Gallagher is crap, Dyer is crap'. Well some or all of those things may very well be true but then they say 'play Abe, play Danns, play Johnson' and think that not playing those wasters of space is a terrible crime? And, as much as i do rate Fernandes, he hasn't been a model of consistency either, he's played shockingly in some games, arguably as many as he's been great in. I say give Pearson a chance to bring in some good players before we assume it's over, what did you really expect after this many games considering you know as well as I do that this squad is badly lacking in key areas?
EnglishOxide Posted 19 December 2011 Posted 19 December 2011 I agree with giving Pearson a chance, but blaming Sven if this season goes tits up? We don't need anymore signings. The players Sven brought in ARE good enough. We've proved that by beating Southampton, Brighton, Derby and we should have beaten Forest. Fernandes is quality. Johnson is quality. Danns is quality. If these players go, then i guarantee that just like most other players we let go, they will go onto a better club/be better players. Pearson really needs to keep Fernandes. If he insists in playing 4-4-2 then he needs to put Fernandes and Danns in the centre together. Alot of energy, tenacity and pace for the counter attack. They would be so much better than how King and Wellens are playing right now. Then put any of Dyer/Gallagher/Schlupp on the wing with Nugent and Beckford up front. ------------------Kasper----------------- Peltier - Bamba - Mills - Konchesky Schlupp - Fernandes - Danns - Gally ---Nugent--------Beckford------ This is a good looking lineup if you ask me, and there are 9 of Svens signings in there. Svens problem wasn't the quality of his signings, it was consistency. His tinkering lead to some disruption in form. If you remember, the reason our unbeaten streak last season hit the rocks because he pissed about with the defence. And this season, he tinkered too much until getting it right with the Konchesky/Bamba/Mills/Peltier back four which went on a run of clean sheets. Mills' sending off at Birmingham is what triggered the poor run of results when the strikers weren't firing. We don't need more signings, maybe one or two that Pearson wants but not an overhaul. How many of you were praising Sven's ability of attracting players who would not normally come to this club? A couple of months later and said players are now crap? Come on.
BNET Posted 19 December 2011 Posted 19 December 2011 I agree with giving Pearson a chance, but blaming Sven if this season goes tits up? We don't need anymore signings. The players Sven brought in ARE good enough. We've proved that by beating Southampton, Brighton, Derby and we should have beaten Forest. Fernandes is quality. Johnson is quality. Danns is quality. If these players go, then i guarantee that just like most other players we let go, they will go onto a better club/be better players. Pearson really needs to keep Fernandes. If he insists in playing 4-4-2 then he needs to put Fernandes and Danns in the centre together. Alot of energy, tenacity and pace for the counter attack. They would be so much better than how King and Wellens are playing right now. Then put any of Dyer/Gallagher/Schlupp on the wing with Nugent and Beckford up front. ------------------Kasper----------------- Peltier - Bamba - Mills - Konchesky Schlupp - Fernandes - Danns - Gally ---Nugent--------Beckford------ This is a good looking lineup if you ask me, and there are 9 of Svens signings in there. Svens problem wasn't the quality of his signings, it was consistency. His tinkering lead to some disruption in form. If you remember, the reason our unbeaten streak last season hit the rocks because he pissed about with the defence. And this season, he tinkered too much until getting it right with the Konchesky/Bamba/Mills/Peltier back four which went on a run of clean sheets. Mills' sending off at Birmingham is what triggered the poor run of results when the strikers weren't firing. We don't need more signings, maybe one or two that Pearson wants but not an overhaul. How many of you were praising Sven's ability of attracting players who would not normally come to this club? A couple of months later and said players are now crap? Come on. Good post. But Sclupps not a winger.
bluearmyfox23 Posted 19 December 2011 Posted 19 December 2011 I got told that Fernandes played because his clubs scouts came down and he was trying to impress them ? ( could be wrong? )
Babylon Posted 19 December 2011 Posted 19 December 2011 Are you happy thaty Howard got picked ahead of Beckford? Are you happy that Howard even got picked? Try Schlupp instead, surely we all know Howard is a lump who shouldn't start a game. Are you happy that Fernandes and Danns seem to be being forced out the club? Why does he persist with his old midfield who let's be honest we all know are not5 going to get us promoted. After the last few games where they have achieved fook all why would you not be trying out Abe, Fernandes and Danns in their correct positions. He has a few games before he needs to be signing new players, how can he do that if he hasn't tried players he doesn't know in their correct positions. I wan't best pleased at us signing FNP but was willing to give him another chance, something he seems unwilling to do with players who aren't his signings. Sven got slated on here for only 'loving' the players he'd signed. You have mentioned in other threads that you think Fernandes has potential. I tend to agree with you that Abe is too lightweight but as the midfield is currently doing the square root of fookall surely he should try anyone and everyone. I think this season is already screwed, I'd like us to try players we currently have before spending money on players that may be no better. Can we just rewind a bit to under Sven, he also had Fernandes, Wellens, King, Gallagher, Johnson, Danns, Dyer and Abe to pick from. And more often than not we ended up with Wellens, King and when fit Gallagher. With perhaps one of his own signings playing, the others being on the bench or not in the squad. So it's all very well going on about Pearson only playing the players he signed, but Sven was also playing mostly Pearson signings through the middle. From what I have seen of Danns, Fernandes, Abe and Johnson, they have exactly the same problem as the current midfield. They are all capable of having a good game, but it's only every 1 in 4. We just don't seem to have anyone in the middle who can do it consistently.
MC Prussian Posted 19 December 2011 Posted 19 December 2011 Real shame. I do hope he stays and I do hope Pearson realizes that Fernandes has more talent in his left foot than Wellens in his entire body.
Finnegan Posted 19 December 2011 Posted 19 December 2011 Real shame. I do hope he stays and I do hope Pearson realizes that Fernandes has more talent in his left foot than Wellens in his entire body. Not sure he's that good. I'd be disappointed if we got rid of him and Johnson without any attempt to bring someone better in, though.
Corky Posted 19 December 2011 Posted 19 December 2011 I just find it surprising that we have someone in the squad with good Premier League and International experience, at tournaments too, and he doesn't seem to get a look in. If he doesn't fit in after a few games fair enough, but to not try him seems like such a waste.
Babylon Posted 19 December 2011 Posted 19 December 2011 but to not try him seems like such a waste. Surely that's what training is for?
volpeazzurro Posted 19 December 2011 Posted 19 December 2011 Fernandes came on twice as sub and showed more energy and passion than the rest of the midfield put together. He asked to play in a stiffs game and scored 4 goals. He then has to sit on the bench and watch the same FNP midfield show no skill, imagination or passion for the 3rd game running and still doesn't even get on as a sub. Why the fook would he want to stop? We're forcing probably the best midfield player we have out the club. Danns and Beckford are probably thinking the same as well. How does Howard get picked? It's beyond me. Most on here were glad to see the back of Sven due to him not having a plan b, does FNP, I'm yet to see one. He and his team knew a lot of the squad and this division, allegedly, I'm yet to see proof of it. This team is getting worse. I expect to see Weale played before much longer and Waghorn brought back in the new year. If we seriously have 10m to spend then Sharp and a decent wide player will take most of that. It won't leave much to replace the rest of the midfield if you've pissed off Danns and Fernandes, who if played in their correct positions, could potentially turn this season around. The lack of imagination and risk taking shown by FNP so far makes me shudder at what would hapen to us should he ever get us promoted. It was always going to take time for NP to evaluate what he has at his disposal to compliment or replace those players he already knows.. With regards to Danns, Johnson and Fernades, I don't see anything in them that is appreciably better or more importantly different than what we already had and were therefore just more squad players. If NP has had a look at both Johnson and Fernandes and also thought this, coupled with the fact as loan signings they were neither here for the long term or likely to be not good enough should we ever reach the Premiership, then why keep them. Danns is a little different in as much as he is actually our player, but for all his huffing and puffing is not appreciably better than what we already have. Fernandes and Johnson possibly represent a large wage commitment which, if we're not going to use them week in and week out is pointless. Get rid and free up money for more signings or loans. Imo it would be good business if we could also persuade Danns, Pantsil and St Ledger to go as well but they're possibly on good money and contracts so why should they.
artursteppe Posted 19 December 2011 Posted 19 December 2011 Has Wellens gone yet, and Gallagher, Dyer, Howard, Oakley and Ball that is the day I wish for. Has Wellens gone yet, and Gallagher, Dyer, Howard, Oakley and Ball that is the day I wish for. Can dreams really come true? I'd like to think so, but doubt it with Nigel. Anyone who did not realise our manager had lost the plot before Saturday, must realise it now after he started with Howard. Pearson is a numpty!
MC Prussian Posted 19 December 2011 Posted 19 December 2011 It was always going to take time for NP to evaluate what he has at his disposal to compliment or replace those players he already knows.. With regards to Danns, Johnson and Fernades, I don't see anything in them that is appreciably better or more importantly different than what we already had and were therefore just more squad players. If NP has had a look at both Johnson and Fernandes and also thought this, coupled with the fact as loan signings they were neither here for the long term or likely to be not good enough should we ever reach the Premiership, then why keep them. Danns is a little different in as much as he is actually our player, but for all his huffing and puffing is not appreciably better than what we already have. Fernandes and Johnson possibly represent a large wage commitment which, if we're not going to use them week in and week out is pointless. Get rid and free up money for more signings or loans. Imo it would be good business if we could also persuade Danns, Pantsil and St Ledger to go as well but they're possibly on good money and contracts so why should they. How much more time to you give Pearson to evaluate his squad when he only plays a similar line-up week in, week out? I thought you could only come to a proper conclusion once you've seen footballers do what they do best... play football. I could also play a bit of Devil's Advocate here and ask you why Wellens or King still feature as part of the starting eleven when both of them have failed (miserably) to impress lately? Defining factors in a footballer's life in order to evaluate their potential are age, willingness to learn, commitment/dedication, creativity, reliability, mental strength. I look at Johnson and Fernandes, then at Wellens (and maybe King) and am pretty sure which one(s) I'd rather keep.
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